help: q45 transmission pan gasket

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I was changing the transmission filter in my 1990 Q45, and I get round to putting the pan back on with the new gasket when I notice that the gasket doesn't fit. I've called up autozone and double checked, and they said that it was listed as the 90 Q45 transmission gasket in their computer. Here are some pictures with the gasket:



Any suggestions? I've checked the FSM and the pan shape looks the same.. so I'm guessing autozone is just wrong.
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Obviously the wrong gasket... The OEM gasket has a coating similar to the EGR gasket, and comes with new bolts with a coating to prevent leaks... I would buy one.

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It is the wrong gasket. I went and looked at a 1994 FSM (yes, I know you have a 1990, but this is the earliest on-line FSM I have) and in some of the diagrams, it shows that "bump" in the oil pan where your gasket is not properly aligned and matching up.

I agree, I think you definitely need to get an OEM gasket instead of relying on Autozone!

And, Q451990's comment about the new bolts is very important! The FSM mentions in a couple of places that these are self-tapping kind and must not re-used ... to prevent leaks.

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szhosain wrote:It is the wrong gasket. I went and looked at a 1994 FSM (yes, I know you have a 1990, but this is the earliest on-line FSM I have) and in some of the diagrams, it shows that "bump" in the oil pan where your gasket is not properly aligned and matching up.

I agree, I think you definitely need to get an OEM gasket instead of relying on Autozone!

And, Q451990's comment about the new bolts is very important! The FSM mentions in a couple of places that these are self-tapping kind and must not re-used ... to prevent leaks.

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Theyre not self tapping, but self sealing.. Theyre little bitty bolts that have a loctite sort of stuff on them....

Anyway, that gasket is definitely wrong....

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Thanks a lot. I called NAPA today and they carried the right one.. The Infiniti dealership where I am are useless and told me I would have to place a special order for the gasket because they don't have it in stock.

about the bolts.. is that just for the transmission pan or for the filter as well?

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No replacement bolt for the transmission filter, but you do want to be sure you use a new o-ring!

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elwesso wrote:Theyre not self tapping, but self sealing
Oops, sorry, yes! Self-tapping would cut new threads.

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Are you missing the magnet at the bottom of the pan?

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1990q45er wrote:I've called up autozone and double checked, and they said that it was listed as the 90 Q45 transmission gasket in their computer.
Autozone?

Shirley, you jest!

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maxnix wrote:Autozone?

Shirley, you jest!


Is this supposed to be helpful?

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bullittandy wrote:Is this supposed to be helpful?
Yes, most definitely!

Only newbies(= members who have not read all of the previous posts or don't search) go for cheap chinese junk from third party American automobile parts retailers over superior OEM products.

Always look for OEM first. Use other parts only if equal or superior. Or get a Nova or a Vega.

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maxnix wrote:Yes, only newbies(= members who have not read all of the previous posts or don't search) go for cheap chinese junk from third party American automobile parts retailers over superior OEM products.

Always look for OEM first. Use other parts only if equal or superior. Or get a Nova or a Vega.
What's the point of an online community if everyone gets their answers from previous posts? The fun of this is to hear new people and their opinions/facts/questions. It is always best to encourage people to ask, even its been said/answered because someone else may have the same question.You're right. OEM is almost always superior, but is always more expensive.However, its a transmission pan gasket! It doesn't fit, so go to a different store and get another one, no big deal.

Always look for OEM first. Use other parts only if equal or superior. Or get a Nova or a Vega. [/QUOTE]I currently drive a 97 Q45, a 91 Mustang LX 5.0 and my wife has a 01 Volvo V70. Before these cars, I've owned a 1967 911, 1984 Alfa Romeo Spider, and a 1955 Chevy 210. These boards are about people working/experimenting on their own cars don't discourage this!.

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What's the point of an online community if everyone gets their answers from previous posts? The fun of this is to hear new people and their opinions/facts/questions. It is always best to encourage people to ask, even its been said/answered because someone else may have the same question.

I feel your pain man! I'm a newbie too! Us newbie's gotta stick together. Keep reading and maybe someday we'll be super techs! What ya think of the Q? Not bad for a newbie? Gotta go, autozone just called they got my new aftermarket chinese fuel pump!

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bullittandy wrote:What's the point of an online community if everyone gets their answers from previous posts?
There is a consise searchable database for those who want to solve problems. This forum was precisely that a couple of years ago. The wheel didn't have to be constantly reinvented.

If you just love to see yourself post, just go to the General forum and add to the useless information there.

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superuber wrote: What ya think of the Q?

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"If you just love to see yourself post, just go to the General forum and add to the useless information there."

"Autozone?Shirley, you jest! "

You're right, this is an excellent example of "useless information."

Also, I have approximately 40 posts, whereas you have approximately 8500 posts-- Again, you're right, "If you just love to see yourself post."

Please try to HELP people with your answers and NOT make fun of them or criticize their decisions.

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One more "useless post" for all newbies and those owners interested in understanding any car and the G50 in particular:

Read all previous posts by Q45tech. Including following the links.

The wheel has already been invented. Understand it before you ask again why it is round.

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bullittandy wrote:You're right. OEM is almost always superior, but is always more expensive.However, its a transmission pan gasket! It doesn't fit, so go to a different store and get another one, no big deal.
If not looked after, the transmission is one of the serious weak links in the early Q45's (along with chain guides in the 1990-1993 years). It is all too easy to damage it, and then the cost of repair is about $2750 (for a remanufactured unit from Joe Tsensky, plus installation).

Having been burned by just such an improperly maintained Q45 (1995 lease return that I purchased in 1998), and having my transmission fail at a measly 104k miles - although I did regular 30k miles full transmission flushes after I bought the car at about 55k miles (as I recall) - I certainly would NOT cheap out on Q45 parts, let alone transmission parts. Including the transmission pan gasket!

The few dollars you save now may end up being eaten - and more - if the part fails. Applies to oil filters, spark plugs, gaskets, etc. - you name it!

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