HELP, new motor wont start up!

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after blowing up my motor, I rebuilt a new motor, and now that the new motor is in, its not starting up, it cranks but doesnt want to start up.I've check for Sparks and i'm getting sparks, I check for Fuel and I'm getting fuel because I can smell it. I check my distributor and when its at TDC the rotor is pointing at #1 cyclinder.

Could it be that I'm runing my battery in the trunk and I need 2 gauge wires? or could it be my timing? I'm runing a Exhaust Cam on the Intake side and I line them up exactly like kaje36 did in the post "S13 KA24DE Cam Alignment"

I've also pull the dizzy and turn it 180 degree like some people said and it doesnt work,

I am going to go get a timing light what am I suppost to look for? 20 BTDC?please help

if anyone on here is from Salt Lake City Utah please come and help me I'll pay you for your time.


FliMSiCaL
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if ur getting spark and fuel, check ur ecu fuse, they seem to like to blow when doing major things like motor swaps if ur not careful with some battery connections...

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If you smell gas like you said you did could the problem perhaps be flooding? Id check fuses like he said, timing, and perhaps check if your flooded.

I saw a post about how someone did something similar and pulled the fuel pump fuse and cranked it for a while then poped it back in and it started.

Just a thought....

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FliMSiCaL wrote:if ur getting spark and fuel, check ur ecu fuse, they seem to like to blow when doing major things like motor swaps if ur not careful with some battery connections...


check the fuses

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MaxType 240
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Take valve cover off. Make sure you're at TDC w/ #1 intake/exhaust valves closed. Crank pulley should be lined up w/ 2nd tick mark (0 degrees). Line up dizzy marks, install dizzy, make sure rotor is on #1.

Jesse

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MaxType 240 when I assemble the motor together I set everything at TDC, but I'll give it another try on Saturday and see how everything goes. I checked all the fuse today and every fuses looks good, none are blown. the engine sound like its surging for electrical, like there isnt enough current to the engine so I'm going to be moving the battery back up and see how that goes. Well here are some pictures for fun. Engine BAY Some Sucky Night picture

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214kka-et240sx
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FliMSiCaL wrote:if ur getting spark and fuel, check ur ecu fuse, they seem to like to blow when doing major things like motor swaps if ur not careful with some battery connections...
if it was the fuse to the ecu then there wouldn't be spark or fuel the ecu controls all that

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214kka-et240sx
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sounds like there is no compresion in the cylinders check compresion 2 all 4 cyl and if there is than it might be your cat converter its clogged up or also timming too dohc should be at 20

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214kka-et240sx
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one thing too check you firing order 1-3-4-2

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Take off the cold pipe, and spray some starter fluid in it (engine starter fluid, not the stuff for the BBQ) and it will fire right up if everything is correct.

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Couple things to check:

1. Make sure you are actually getting fuel IN the cyls. You might smell fuel in the engine bay, but make sure that after cranking your plugs are wet with fuel. You should be able to see them wet and smell the fuel on them.

2. When you set your timing, make sure you do it at TDC on the compression stroke, not on the exhaust stroke. You can double check this by screwing a compression tester into cyl #1, popping the gauge off of it and putting your thumb over the end. Manually crank the engine slowly... you will feel pressure build up under your thumb right before TDC-- double check that thats the TDC you've been setting your timing for.

3. How exactly are you checking for spark? You should be pulling your plugs one at a time, plugging the wire back on and resting it on the valve cover so it grounds. You should see the arcing of the the spark while you crank.

4. Is your fuel old? How long has the car been sitting? Do you have good fuel pressure (you will need a gauge)?

5. Check your throttle plate to make sure its not sticking, double check all of your intake/IC piping/manifold for any kind of clog that might stop air from getting into the engine. Did you leave a rag in there? I did that once.

6. What kind of fuel managment system are you using? Is this even a turbo car or is it stock? You might have some sort of electrical problem associated with a piggyback or whatever... Tell us more about your setup.

Thats it for now... keep hunting it down!

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how long ago did you replace the cap and rotor? i had this same type of problem until i changed mine then it fired right up.

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The Cap and Rotor were change about 1.5 year ago the car bearly went dead .5 year. so the cap and rotor are at least 1 year old. The Fuel inside the car is brand new, about 2 day old or so, when I dump the new fuel in I sucked all the old fuel out of the tank. The Firing order is correct I check with my buddy 92 240 and its correct. Nismo_Freak and fiznat I'll be trying your guys method today I'll get back to you guys on it. and No I didnt leave any rag in there hehehe.

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I need you guys to take a look at this to tell me if everything looks good. I even have the chopstick to tell me that #1 cyclinder is at TDC Is this how the Distributor suppost to look? pointing at #1 cyclinder


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