HELP needed with my cd receiver intall!!!

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Chingon
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So me and my brother did all the speaker wiring on a 1991 240sx. After everything was wired and new speakers were in place, we then proceeded to bring a cable from the positive terminal in the battery. We connected that to the "always" on cable on the receiver. We connected all the speaker cables, grounded the black cable to a random screw, and proceeded w/o powering the antenna. (it was all a test drive, by the way). So after that, the cd receiver turns on, takes the cd in, but doesn't let us play, access menus, etc. Now, there is power to the receiver, and when we push display (the only accessible button) it show BLAUPUNKT and the time. So my question is....what cable am I missing? Could it just be the receiver? Do I have to forcibly use the antenna power to test drive the cd player? And if so, what colors are the cables for it? PLEASE HELP!!!


Chingon
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also, we must have unplugged something because none of the lights inside the car worknow, the clock is not displayed anymore and the seatbelt doesn't retract when I turn off the car (seatbelt works when the car is on though), you guys know what it could be?

Scott McLellan
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Fuse possibly. Also, check the wire that you ran to the battery to make sure it didn't get cut on some metal somewhere. I can't remember now how exactly I wired it, but I know for sure that I didn't run a wire up to the battery when I installed a Sony receiver in my 240. So you have the 12V constant which will work hooked to your battery assuming you put it on the red + side:), do you also have the accesory power wire hooked up. If one of these ideas doesn't fix it, I would reccomend one of those adapter plug things you can get from Wal-Mart. There like $15 I think. That way it's just matching colors and plugging it in. By the way the light-blue wire coming off the receiver is for the power antenna. It doesn't need to be hooked up to anything assuming you don't have factory amps. If you can't figure it out and don't want to buy the adapter plug, I could get you all the color and wire stuff tommorow right after school.

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accessory wire. or ignition wire...for when you turn the key, the player goes on or off. basically, there are 2 hot wires for the player...a thick one (battery) and a thin one. do you have those?

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Well the player lets me have accesory and/or a constant power supply. I opted for the constant power supply(so I can use receiver w/o turning the key). Then you move a switch in the receiver to either A. Your car has an accessory position on the ignition switch. or B. You car has no accessory postion on the ignition switch.

I opted for B of course since I want the receiver to run from the battery.

Also Scott...what do you mean by (do you have the accessory wire hooked up?) Do I needed hooked even if I'm running straight from the battery? Isn't it either or? And If i need it, what color is it?

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4felix20
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the unit still wants the accessory wire juice.

Chingon
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and what color is it?

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Go get it done by someone that knows what they are doing, you're only going to cause more damage.

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As said above there are 2 power wires, one constant and one accessory. I am guessing by the notes above you did not use a wiring harness that connected directly into the 240's wiring and instead ran all the wires yourself? If so, I agree with getting someone to do it for you. If you still have the vehicle side harness intact I would run out to best buy or circuit city(or what have you) and get a wiring harness and start over from the beginning. the harnesses make things much easier.

Theoretically you could run both the acc and the constant power off the battery but at that point you need to make sure that you turn the radio off everytime you get out of the car as it will always be live. Usually, on the radio side, one is yellow and one is red. Dont recall the standard but you might want to see what those guys are plugged into. If you are still missing dash lights I can almost guarantee you have blown a fuse.

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You are just asking for trouble, you could easily blow fuses left and right when theres a problem by hooking up the radio directly to the battery.

The radio has 1 or 2 fuses, if they blow you will need to take everything apart again to replace them.

Here is general wiring colors

Red +12 PositiveYellow Acessory Orange IlluminationBlue Antenna/Amp Turn onBlack Ground

and 8 wires for speakers grey/white/purple/green

Personally I would never hook anything up directly to the battery unless there some relay/fuse block involved.

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4felix20
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all you got to do is run that accessory wire to the fuse for the radio in the fusebox, the cigarette lighter's hot wire(if your car's lighter only works when the cars on), or some other wire that's hot only when the key is turned.

and general wiring colors are pretty close, but never trust them. for instance, pioneer's accessory wire is red and the +12 wire is yellow.

everything is quite simple...it's just easier if you have some wiring schematics or something for help.

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the standard is yellow for constant power, and red is the switched assesory line. its simple, if you want the radio to be playable at all times, connect both the accesory [red] and power [yellow] wires to the constant power from the battery. dont forget to ground the unit.

the wires in your car vary by manufacturer. the colors on the aftermarket radio are standard, the colors on the adapter harness are standard. the only difficulty you run into is if you run heavier gauge wire for the speakers. then just keep the poliarity correct or the speakers wont project bass correctly.

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got the radio working, it sounds pretty sweet with the monster cables and speakers we installed. Anyone have any idea of what could be the cause of the lack of lights inside the car, like I said before the clock doesnt display anymore and the seatbelt doesn't work when I turn off the car.

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did you check fuses?

Chingon
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not really, my brother checked the driverside panel (the one by the clutch) but very briefly, I know of various places where fuses can be found, where is a good place to look for them?its dark so ill have to do it tomorrow.

Scott McLellan
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If there is an interior stuff fuse it is probly under the driverside panel. Just pull them out and if there is a break in the wire thing or piece of metal then it is blown. I'm not sure this is your problem though... Check the bulbs to make sure they aren't just burnt out, too. Maybe there was a little power surge or something while wiring that didn't blow the fuse but did the bulbs. Did you disconnect the battery while installing the receiver?


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