Help needed regarding bushing

[naVan]

hey guys,was checking frsport.com and interested in buying energy suspension bushing kit for the car.but i want to know that is that all i need,will it replace all the suspension bushings or i need something else too ! the car is complete stock.will get RSR springs too for lowering the car.need advice.

http://www.frsport.com/Energy-....html

http://www.frsport.com/Energy-....html

please help me choose what i need ! my intention is to replace all old suspension bushings.what is the difference in both of these kits ?

thanks....

[carps13guy]

the only difference between the two is color. i say get the black, but thats my favorite shade. & yes it will come with all bushings needed for the car. except the subframe bushings. for those i recommend getting spl subframe collars & then you will have addressed all bushings in the entire car. let it be known, that if you are trying to do this yourself it is alot of labor. i did not have any help with mine. it took me about 4 hours to disassemble everything, about 2 full days to torch,cut,remove, & press in the new bushings. it is alot of work, but well worth it. & btw its good that you are doing bushings first, it will give you a better baseline as far as testing goes when you install other suspension components

[carps13guy]

dbl post, stupid comp.
Modified by carps13guy at 3:28 AM 11/3/2009

[DMan II-40]

I read somewhere that the black ones don't squeak, not sure if that is true though. Also, this place has the lowest price I could find. I say buy it there or have FRSport do a price match:

http://www.suspension.com/nissancars.htm

[carps13guy]

I read somewhere that the black ones don't squeak, not sure if that is true though. Also, this place has the lowest price I could find. I say buy it there or have FRSport do a price match:

http://www.suspension.com/nissancars.htm

i think thats a load of crap. as long as you grease the inner & outer diameters of the bushing as well as the id of the piece your pressing it into it shouldnt squeak. i have black & they dont squeak, but i lubed em properly. & the formula they use is the same for both colors, just diff dyes. but they are awesome & i recommend bushings as a first install on any car

[naVan]

thanks very much.....

[nissanman04]

from energysuspensionparts.com:

"Energy Suspension makes parts in 2 colors. Red and Black.

How are these two colors different?

The only difference between the red and black parts is that most Black Energy Suspension parts are Graphite Impregnated. This serves to help self lubricate the bushings. The Red parts do not have this characteristic. Aside from the actual color and the lack of being Graphite Impregnated - the red parts are essentially the same as the black.



I thought that the RED parts were harder and more performance oriented?

This is a common misconception. The red parts have the same durometer (hardness) as the Black parts and differ only in their actual appearance (color) and the fact that they're NOT graphite impregnated like the Black parts.

Why do people buy the red parts when they're not Graphite Impregnated like the Black parts?

In the end this is really because some people simplylike the color Red more than Black."

I don't know how much of a difference this makes, but there you go...

[carps13guy]

The only difference between the red and black parts is that most Black Energy Suspension parts are Graphite Impregnated. This serves to help self lubricate the bushings. The Red parts do not have this characteristic. Aside from the actual color and the lack of being Graphite Impregnated - the red parts are essentially the same as the black.

thanks nissan man . i did not know that my black bushings are graphite impregnated. so i guess that would cause less friction & they wouldn't squeak as much. learn something new everyday

sorry d-man, what you said was true about the black bushes not squeaking as much.

[DMan II-40]

thanks nissan man . i did not know that my black bushings are graphite impregnated. so i guess that would cause less friction & they wouldn't squeak as much. learn something new everyday

sorry d-man, what you said was true about the black bushes not squeaking as much.

NO problem, I didn't have proof anyway just something I heard somewhere. Good to know that it is true!

[LOVERboy]

/threadjack

wanna buy my subframe bushing??? o.O hehe

[naVan]

from energysuspensionparts.com:

"Energy Suspension makes parts in 2 colors. Red and Black.

How are these two colors different?

The only difference between the red and black parts is that most Black Energy Suspension parts are Graphite Impregnated. This serves to help self lubricate the bushings. The Red parts do not have this characteristic. Aside from the actual color and the lack of being Graphite Impregnated - the red parts are essentially the same as the black.



I thought that the RED parts were harder and more performance oriented?

This is a common misconception. The red parts have the same durometer (hardness) as the Black parts and differ only in their actual appearance (color) and the fact that they're NOT graphite impregnated like the Black parts.

Why do people buy the red parts when they're not Graphite Impregnated like the Black parts?

In the end this is really because some people simplylike the color Red more than Black."

I don't know how much of a difference this makes, but there you go...

[naVan]

as far i am sure my car is JDM,the part description says its for 240SX.correct me if i am wrong....240SX is USDM.will these bushings fit JDM car also.

http://energysuspensionparts.c...18107

according to FRsport.com it should.

Vehicle ApplicationsYear Make Model Trim App Notes1995 - 1998 Nissan 240SX All None1994 - 1998 Nissan 200SX (Non-US) (S14) L4 2.0L SR20DET None1994 - 1998 Nissan Silvia All None

[DMan II-40]

Yes.

[HurryupandrunS13]

Just did the Energy master kit on my 89 hatch, and it was a biatch!! BUT, it was so f'in worth it it's unbeleivable. I would not recommend payin someone to do it, seein how much time and effort it took. Still the cheapest (part wise) most cost effective suspension upgrade IMO.

[nifares240]

if you are updating your caster arms, ruca, toe links, and traction links...

with that kit you will only wind up using only the the bushings for front lower control arm, rear lower control arm, rear kmuckles, steering rack bushings, and sway bars bushings. not much.you will need new ball joints too.

the only bushings that i didn't use for the kit are the rear knuckles, which I will save eventually for the z32.

[naVan]

thx alot mates.all of you....