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Hey guys/girls, I need help with my ka. I rebuilt the engine just lately and I'm having trouble putting back together. Just the hoses and stuff though, since I didn't take it apart I don't know what connected to what except little things like the rad hoses. So if any one can help with putting this back together I would really appreciate it. I dont want to start it and make it go boom :tisk:, you can call me 609 209 6247, ask for lucky. This was my first build so sorry if it's noobish...


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Is it a KA24E or KA24DE?

240sx-fsm-full-service-manuals-s13-s14- ... 11075.html
Download the FSM files and go to the Lubrication & Cooling systems page, they have a few diagrams for the cooling.
And check these pictures out, it should help you with some of the stuff, they are for the dual cam though.
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Should've thought about this ahead of time!
When I took everything apart, I took pictures of all my vacuum hoses from many angles to make sure I hook up everything correctly. haha
Even then I had to sit down and figure things out a bit.
Here is a picture of the vacuum lines at the back of the KA if you need those too.
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Oh well, we live and learn!
Good luck man!

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Thanks razi but another quick question, umm see in the third pic, where you put the letter B. Those metal pipes, going from one end of the rubber tube to the other, where can i get those?? Sorry but i got the engine torn apart and half of sh*# didn't come with it, its like the dude just threw it somewhere.

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why dont you remove all your emssions? you would then only have 2 vacuum lines on youre intake piping. and you can say byebye to all those little lines you dont have. and you will less vacuum leaks too as well.

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I didn't put the letters on the pictures, they are just random things I've found.

About the jungle of metal tubes, go to a junkyard and take a look behind the engine.
That's the only place you can find these, I don't think anyone readily sells them.

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costa_rican13 wrote:why dont you remove all your emssions? you would then only have 2 vacuum lines on youre intake piping. and you can say byebye to all those little lines you dont have. and you will less vacuum leaks too as well.
I would remove all the emissions but ever since nico changed it's layout the thread that explains the removal doesn't show the pictures no more. So i don't want to end up messing up the lines, but if some can walk me through it I'll greatly appreciate it!

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ok well you will have to take apart the entire intake manifold, i would redo all you intake gaskets(throttle body, plenum to runners, and runners to the head) this is how you do it. buy from ebay or make a block off plate for the EGR(big ufo looking thing above IACV) ok all those little tiny lines and hard lines remove them. throw away dont need them. you will only have the egr valve it self left, as far as vaccuum lines go you will have the(brake booster line, the little line that go from the plenum to the FPR(fuel pressure reguator), valve cover to intake pipe line, and the line that goes all the way to the IACV, its the line by the throttle body that kinda bends upwards a bit.) by the time your done completely you will have only 4 lines total.(the ones i stated above^^) ok, if i took pictures of my mani would that help?? as far as what to keep? and throw away? that seems easier as the write ups are crap now with no pictars. its really not that hard man. just takes time because all the mani bolts.

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yes pics would help. i need to strip down my S14 Manifold to basics since its going in my S13.

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ok i will tomorrow its to dark right now.

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Well costa_rican13 i don't how to thank you man cause my intake mani is apart right now. So as soon as i get a good look at the pics i would be good to go. But i still kind of get the idea of what to remove but can't do nothing, its dark out so :tisk: ....

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im so glad i live in cali... it was like 72 degrees the other day. :)

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charat wrote:im so glad i live in cali... it was like 72 degrees the other day. :)
72* and you can't remove your emissions anyway so your post is pointless. it doesn't matter if it is warm there.... I will take my cold weather and lack of nazi state government. I am actually just jelous of the nice weather :sad:

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S13_RB25 wrote:
costa_rican13 wrote:why dont you remove all your emssions? you would then only have 2 vacuum lines on youre intake piping. and you can say byebye to all those little lines you dont have. and you will less vacuum leaks too as well.
I would remove all the emissions but ever since nico changed it's layout the thread that explains the removal doesn't show the pictures no more. So i don't want to end up messing up the lines, but if some can walk me through it I'll greatly appreciate it!
we're in the process of fixing tech articles... go to this thread and request to have the pictures restored and ye shall have them

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use all the pics in this post and you should have no problem bro, only thing you will need to buy is, that block off plate from ebay, some copper gasket spray, some gasket roll that you can trace the plate and cut out of the roll of gasket.(make sure you cute out two, one for each side of the plate)intake manifold gasket set from autozone,oreillys or wherever, vacuum hoses use the ones you have already to see which size you need. while you're at this you might as well redo your heater hoses as well, and put new clamps. after you've got everything. just reassemble everything, and make sure to spray the intake mani gaskets on both sides and do not let any dirt or any rocks get on it(the gasket after sprayed with the copper gasket will get tacky/sticky) also scrap off any old gasket with a razor but careful not to cut the or scratch the mani flanges to maintain a smooth surface as possible. goodluck man, post some pics when your done to show us! :dblthumb:

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ok I've tried but the pics didn't really come with the things i got in my view so just take quick look at the vid and two pics:
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Front of the intake
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back of the intake
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Sorry this is my first time with this stuff...

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Thanks costa_rican those are the only lines I needed to know where they connected!!!

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no problem! now get that car running!

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costa_rican13 wrote:no problem! now get that car running!
If your close to Philly I can help you out if you still need it...And I can walk you thru the egr too

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Well I'm in Burlington nj. So idk how close that is to you, but I'll let you know.

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yea im oklahoma. lol

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fiznowler wrote:
charat wrote:im so glad i live in cali... it was like 72 degrees the other day. :)
72* and you can't remove your emissions anyway so your post is pointless. it doesn't matter if it is warm there.... I will take my cold weather and lack of nazi state government. I am actually just jelous of the nice weather :sad:
why remove emissions? if you say better HP/performance then :facepalm:

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cant have emissions for upcoming hks .90 trim turbo he's gona slap on it with stock internals, dur. lol jk OP. also creates less vacuum leaks to hunt down/ looks alot cleaner.

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^ lol but costa rican did you get my message from the other day?? You know about the line that's supposed to go to the canister in the front of the engine bay...

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You can loop the canister hoses onto eachother.....And eliminate that hose if you want. Or pull the can out, and block off the hoses going to it.

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no i didnt man. but this ^^

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driftneil wrote:You can loop the canister hoses onto eachother.....And eliminate that hose if you want. Or pull the can out, and block off the hoses going to it.
So let me make sure if I got this right. The line coming from the intake Mani to the canister can be just plugged up with a screw and one line coming towards the mani, from the canister, can be just looped back into the can?? But if I want to remove the can what do I do to the line going to the fuel tank?? Plug it up with a screw or what??

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yes thats precisely correct sir. mine are plugged as well.

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Alright well I'll just remove it. As of now it's 97% completed and I would like to thank everybody that helped me with my noob questions :p


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