help me out wheel, tire, and offset nazis

[karmakaze]

looks like i am getting a new 98 240.it has 20mm fenders up front and 50mm in back and it needs some wheels.i am probably going to get stance coilovers, although, worse case senario is i stick my nismo struts on it.

i am looking at the 5Zigen FN01RC

for wheels i figured 9" in back 8" up frontokohama AVS ES100 235/45 and i have not decided if i want to go 17" or 18"

2 questions..how does all that look? (please give me any other sugestions if you have other recomendations)and what offsets should i get?

[naed240sx]

17x9+20 with 235/40/17 is pretty close to perfect flush on a stock s14. With 20mm overs up front, and 50mm in the rear, I would run the 17x10 FNO1-rc all around, with staggered tires.

9" rear and 8" front with 235 will be rediculously sunken in, unless you plan on somehow locating some very negative offset FN's(which I don't think exist)

And definately don't get es100s.

[hannibal]

SPACERS!!!Assuming youre 5 lug, 17x8 +25 and 17x9 +15 are the widest/lowest offsets offered. I'm not a flushness guru, but you need a little more wheel than that. 17x9 +15 front and 17x10 +12 rear should look better. The 18s only come in half widths and 18x9.5 + 12 prolly wont cut it. Maybe consider a different set of wheels. IMO your wide fendered kouki deserves it.

Sounds like youre planning to mount the same sized tire on the front and rear. That kinda defeats the logic of running difference wheel widths.

[karmakaze]

thanks for the help guys. looks like i am scratching the FN01RC idea. the guy i am getting this stuff through doesn't have an account with 5zigen anymore. he is however going to get me a price on the Greddy Gravitys.

but i think the widest/lowest offsets those come in are 17" x 8.5" +29 and 17" x 9.5" +26 and 18" x 9.5" +15i don't know much about offsets, but i would need a pretty big spacer for that wouldn't i?

i do also like the look of the Ruff Racing 279 and it comes in 18" x 9.5" +15

what size spacers would i have to use for those?

Maybe consider a different set of wheels. IMO your wide fendered kouki deserves it.

but all and all i should try to find something 17x9 +15 front and 17x10 +12 rear or 17x10 +12 all around?

what would you guys recomend?

Modified by karmakaze at 10:36 AM 6/27/2006
Modified by karmakaze at 10:59 AM 6/27/2006

[240sxjeff]

Personally I would try to remove the rear fenders +50mm is way to much. Your going to need 10" with close to zero offset and a meaty *** tire on there for it too look anywhere close to nice. I still don't get why people put on 50mm rear fenders? When are they ever going to use all that tire that the fender can take? I guess dragster style cars?

[gabossie]

The 17x9.5 +26 would fill up the front alright, though it could still go for a small spacer with the 20mm fender. The rear will be tough to fill with that huge fender on there. You could run the 17x9.5 on the rear as well and use spacers to flush them out, but it would be better to find another wheel that would fit better (good luck) or remove the large fenders.

[karmakaze]

Personally I would try to remove the rear fenders +50mm is way to much. Your going to need 10" with close to zero offset and a meaty *** tire on there for it too look anywhere close to nice. I still don't get why people put on 50mm rear fenders? When are they ever going to use all that tire that the fender can take? I guess dragster style cars?

this was a shops car. i am moving my engine and crap to it and adding a few things. might as well keep them if they are already there.

[whiterps13]

Well with 50mm over fenders, you are going to need something crazy in the rear. I believe chmercer was running like 18x12's on his rears with overfenders. Better get on the phone with iForged

[karmakaze]

how about 18" x 9.5" +15 (or would +20 be better?) with a 3-5mm spacer up front and a 25mm spacer in back?
Modified by karmakaze at 8:58 PM 6/27/2006

[nismofly]

better, but probably still wont get you the look youre going for

the idea with fenders...find a fitment you like, then add the amount for the fenders

for example, if you like 17x9 +20 on stock fenders, youd want 17x9 +0 and 17x9 -30 with the fenders

from there you can compensate for wider wheels accordingly with wider offset

[naed240sx]

better, but probably still wont get you the look youre going for

the idea with fenders...find a fitment you like, then add the amount for the fenders

for example, if you like 17x9 +20 on stock fenders, youd want 17x9 +0 and 17x9 -30 with the fenders

from there you can compensate for wider wheels accordingly with wider offset

werd. People should figure this stuff out themselves, by using the offset calculator, and basing off of other people's setups that they like.

[karmakaze]

better, but probably still wont get you the look youre going for

the idea with fenders...find a fitment you like, then add the amount for the fenders

for example, if you like 17x9 +20 on stock fenders, youd want 17x9 +0 and 17x9 -30 with the fenders

from there you can compensate for wider wheels accordingly with wider offset

ok i think i might have this offset thing figured out. according to my math...

17X10+12 with +-10mm of spacers in the back17x10+25 with +-7mm of spacers in the front

am i sounding any better?
Modified by karmakaze at 7:01 PM 6/28/2006

[nismofly]

with as wide as youre getting in the front youre going to have to start worrying about severe clearance on the inner side, at these widths its not just coilovers anymore

it all depends on how far youd be willing to go custom wise with the inside

[naed240sx]

with as wide as youre getting in the front youre going to have to start worrying about severe clearance on the inner side, at these widths its not just coilovers anymore

it all depends on how far youd be willing to go custom wise with the inside

ehhh not really. S14s are badass in that they have tons of inner clearance.

Chmercer is running 18x10 front, and even with SPL steering rack spacers, and kts lowered all the way, he can still turn lock to lock without rubbing.

As long as the wheels clear coilovers, and you don't plan on slamming the hell out of it, all that should be neccesary to run 10j front is to hammer where it rubs, and hammer all the seams in the fenderwell. This is of course assuming that you don't mount anything wider than a 265 up front.

[karmakaze]

this is what i am getting...zerothread/181098its coming to me on stock suspension and stock rims.

it had FNs on it before, but i would like something a bit more flush and that fills in the wheel well out a little bit more, but the only affordable wheel that looks nice that i can find in the width and offset that come close to working are the FNs. so i guess its going to be 17x10 all around i think thats what it had to begin with anyway.

although, i may go with a 30 or 40mm rear fender instead of the 50. i really like the ruff racing dished rims (the 279s), but they don't come close to fitting the 50mm fender.

now to figure out tires...

on that note, pretty soon i am going to have my current 240 for sale as a rolling chasis or possibly a part out including nismo struts, jdm lights, maybe the 4.4 rear end, custom CAI, type X spoiler and grill, and a bunch of other crap. i am fine with people calling dibs as long as they are serious.

[nismofly]

if you dont mind me asking in your thread...details on the 4.4 rear end?

im assuming by 4.4 you mean the factory 4.36 out of something?

[naed240sx]

if you dont mind me asking in your thread...details on the 4.4 rear end?

im assuming by 4.4 you mean the factory 4.36 out of something?

yes. When people say 4.4 or 4.3, they mean 4.36.

Same diff as I have. You should know this Chris.

[nismofly]

well he couldve special ordered something, you never know

he also couldve gotten a nismo gearset, instead of the way you did it, which would put it way out of my price range

[naed240sx]

well he couldve special ordered something, you never know

he also couldve gotten a nismo gearset, instead of the way you did it, which would put it way out of my price range

Nismo gearsets are mainly just R&P sets that came oem in some cars.

There is no 4.4:1 Nissan r200.

Available gearsets:

3.364

3.7

3.9

4.083(stock)

4.111

4.364

4.636

[karmakaze]

if you dont mind me asking in your thread...details on the 4.4 rear end?

im assuming by 4.4 you mean the factory 4.36 out of something?

its the rear end out of an early 180. 4.36 is correct. i just rounded up to 4.4

naed240sx...i thought 4.11 was stock?

[nismofly]

its an open diff then? im definately very interested, let me know what you plan to do

4.08 is stock, 4.11 is a popular ratio for just about everything besides nissans

[karmakaze]

ok, just got off the phone with the guy i am buying the car from. the rims that are on it in the pictures are 17x10+12 in the rear and 17x9+15 up front. looks like they need 10mm spacers.

i guess those would fit better than i though.

using those as a base, the ruff racing wheels (18x9.5+20 all around) in front would be flush on the outside, but would have 11mm less clearance on the inside and on the back would need a 25mm spacer to be flush.

i guess the benifit with this would be that i could rotate my tires. will the added unsprung weight of a 25mm spacer make any noticable impact? (i will be using hubcentric spacers)

[karmakaze]

its an open diff then? im definately very interested, let me know what you plan to do

4.08 is stock, 4.11 is a popular ratio for just about everything besides nissans

nope, its a VLSD, leaves 2 tracks. if i decide to sell it i will keep you in mind and let you know first. Thats the one piece i am not sure about. I may decide to put it on the new car, but i may not.

[nismofly]

ok, id be all over that if you do decide to sell it, definately let me know...

[naed240sx]

i guess the benifit with this would be that i could rotate my tires. will the added unsprung weight of a 25mm spacer make any noticable impact? (i will be using hubcentric spacers)

Not really. They definately wouldn't add anything to wheel inertia, but they would probably add a pound to total unsprung weight.

[karmakaze]

ewww i just call enjuku and they said the ruff racing rims weight in at about 27-28lbs.

the 5zigen 17x10 weights 21.5

damn it. and i actually really like how the ruff racing 279 looks.

[naed240sx]

ewww i just call enjuku and they said the ruff racing rims weight in at about 27-28lbs.

the 5zigen 17x10 weights 21.5

damn it. and i actually really like how the ruff racing 279 looks.

lololol. 28 pounds is rediculous.

Yeah, the FN's are great. I just got some 17x9s, and they are only 19 per.

[nismofly]

thats to be expected with cast replica wheels in the size youre looking at them in

dont worry though, a plain 6 spoke like that really isnt all that hard to find

[karmakaze]

thats to be expected with cast replica wheels in the size youre looking at them in

dont worry though, a plain 6 spoke like that really isnt all that hard to find

yeah i am going to go for the bronze FNs or the Hyper White Gravities. The gravities are only about 400 more than the FNs and they are that much more hotter. Everyone has FNs.

still need to figure out the weight of the gravities, thats going to be the deciding factor.

[nismofly]

link to gravities?

never heard of them...who actually makes them?