help me get my sr20 started!!

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kylaris
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I have S14 with S13 SR20DET black top.Trying to get it start and I need some advise.

I got sparks, I have fuel circulating but not so sure if they are squirting. I did the timing according to the S14 FSM.

I don't have any vacuum lines, Maf, intercooler, intercooler pipes, none of them are connected.Just bare engine with harness, and fuel lines connected.

Do I need other lines connected to get it started?and also how do I check if the injectors are squirting?

thanks,


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ull need that maf hooked up the vaccum lines and ic piping too....other wise itll do what shes doin ;)

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ps crack it and it u smell gas at any point ur injectors work....or if u pull the plugs and they are wet....

kylaris
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I thought the engine can start and idle with out maf, and intercooler.

I smell the gas all over my garage. :pface ( was testing if pump was pumping fuel). How wet should they be?(enough to light the spark plug on fire?) the spark plug did have some liquidy stuff on it. Couldn't tell if it was gas or not though.

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Well you need the MAFS and intercooler hooked up to run, unless it was a carburaeted engine but you would still need the intercooler piping installed~

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you need the intercooler piping hooked up and all the vacuum lines connected otherwise it wont run or will run very poorly if at all. where in NJ are you?

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You dont need the MAF hooked up, but you wont be able to rev over 3k.

The intercooler piping and vacum lines deff have to be hooked up though.

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tErbo b00st wrote:You dont need the MAF hooked up, but you wont be able to rev over 3k.
ya i was about to come back and say that.....heh...but u do need some sort of leakproof (air) pipe goin from the turbo compressor outlet to the throttle body....and the vaccuum lines need to be hooked up

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to check for functioning injectors, put a screw driver to the back of the injectors while the car's running and listen in to the back of the screw driver. You'll hear a muffled ticking. Then to test if the injector's actually working without a consult machine, pull the injector plug. If the motor stumbles, the injector is fine.

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Quote » where in NJ are you?[/quote]

MiddleSex, you live in nj too?

kylaris
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93Niss240 wrote:ya i was about to come back and say that.....heh...but u do need some sort of leakproof (air) pipe goin from the turbo compressor outlet to the throttle body....and the vaccuum lines need to be hooked up


So you are saying it won't run like this. I will need vaccum lines connected and a hose connecting turbine to TB.


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kylaris wrote:MiddleSex, you live in nj too?


I'm in middlesex too. in south amboy. let me know if you need a hand.

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it'll run, just make sure your vac lines are plugged.

kylaris
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180fan wrote:to check for functioning injectors, put a screw driver to the back of the injectors while the car's running and listen in to the back of the screw driver. You'll hear a muffled ticking. Then to test if the injector's actually working without a consult machine, pull the injector plug. If the motor stumbles, the injector is fine.


I don't think my injectors are squirting fuel into the cylinders. I don't hear any ticking. I even pull out the injectors along with fuel rail and tested to see if they squirt when the engine is cranked. But nope, they didn't squirt.

What should I check? Could it be bad injectors? Can I swap with Ka24De injectors and test if it starts or not?

thanks,

toledo240
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Do you have your lines on correct going in and out of the fuel rail? from the fuel filter.What about you connections on your fuel pump do you hear it turn on when you turn the ignition?

If you havent checked the injectors place them on a paper towel to see if they shoot or if any are leaking. by cranking the engine manually, your injetors should all fire at the same time. if not the injectors are probably bad. Use 30zx injectors or g20's injectors. not ka24de.

kylaris
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I got the fuel lines connected right. I have feed line going thru filter to rail, and fuel pressure regulator to return line. I had it wrong way before, But I fixed that.

I tested the injectors, there aren't any fuel on paper after cranking it. I didn't do it manually though. Should I try crank manually? Could it be the harness? Or just bad injectors?

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Is your fuel pump turning on?

toledo240
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Try it manually, if it fires that way then there is something with your wiring.IS your fuel pump turning on at all you should be able to hear it if its a walbro. Have you tried pulling the fuel pump fuse out and put it back in?Do you have fuel by the way?

kylaris
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toledo240 wrote:Try it manually, if it fires that way then there is something with your wiring.IS your fuel pump turning on at all you should be able to hear it if its a walbro. Have you tried pulling the fuel pump fuse out and put it back in?Do you have fuel by the way?
I have fuel pump powered, and have fuel circulate(left the return line unpluged, fuel squirted out).I also did it manually but the injectors didn't squirt. If it is bad injectors, shouldn't at least one fire? It shouldn't be possible to have all of them to be not working.I'm gonna check if the wires are okay. May be I have bad ECU?

thanks,

180fan
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yeah it's possible you've got a bad ecu or bad wiring. it's strange that your injectors aren't firing.

toledo240
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check your wiring to your injectors and make sure that they are the right color wires going to the right injectors. I wouldn't say its your ecu just yet.

kylaris
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The injector plugs are pluged into right injectors.The wires have continuity to their ecu pin outs.Only thing i can think of is bad ecu.

I'm gonna order one and test out.

thanks,

toledo240
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Tell me what happens

kylaris
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Well, the problem was my wiring. Now my injectors fire fuel.

I set the timing according to the FSM. 2nd mark from left at TDC, line up the cas marking.

Yet, car doesn't start. Any one have any clue why it won't?

thanks,

DukeBoy
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where do you live in Middlesex? I am in South Amboy if you need help.

kylaris
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wahhaha..!! I finally got it started.the problem was timing, though my turbo seal is broken so it's leaking oil every where as it spools up.

Does any one know where they sell the rebuild kit for T25 turbo?and cheap. :ylsuper

thanks,


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