Help i think i have been scammed on Nico

[anumeric]

Paypal didnt do **** for me. I also got scammed by a nico member named Winona. After I made a claim and he never responded paypal decided the claim in my favor but said the seller didn't have any funds in his paypal account so they couldn't give me back any of my money. Man I was ****ing pissed.

[Alfador]

depending on if its enough to be worth the trouble to you. You can start legal action, at which point they are required to disclose the seller's local info to you care of the authorities. The dont have to give them directly to you, probably smart because I know I'd hunt a few people down and slit their throats if they cheated me out of even $50. (I've broken fingers for $5). In any case, you can then use that proxy-information to file a civil or criminal charge. Also, I pay with a credit card on paypal when possible for double protection. That way I can make a beef via the credit card company if I have to (they usually cooperate pretty well. Also my bank (Bank of America) offers decent protection to buyers as well. Look into the buyer protection options your bank offers.

[yelnatsch517]

depending on if its enough to be worth the trouble to you. You can start legal action, at which point they are required to disclose the seller's local info to you care of the authorities. The dont have to give them directly to you, probably smart because I know I'd hunt a few people down and slit their throats if they cheated me out of even $50. (I've broken fingers for $5). In any case, you can then use that proxy-information to file a civil or criminal charge. Also, I pay with a credit card on paypal when possible for double protection. That way I can make a beef via the credit card company if I have to (they usually cooperate pretty well. Also my bank (Bank of America) offers decent protection to buyers as well. Look into the buyer protection options your bank offers.

Wow I should hire you to be my retrieval expert. I currently have over $1800 loaned out in cash that has not been paid back.

[amolao]

Yeah, if is a USPS money order, the postal service gets involved and initiate an investigation. Most of the time, there's been continuous fraud going on (maybe not neccesarily this time..) and that's a big NO-NO when it comes to USPS money orders.

[94_240sx]

Paypal didnt do **** for me. I also got scammed by a nico member named Winona. After I made a claim and he never responded paypal decided the claim in my favor but said the seller didn't have any funds in his paypal account so they couldn't give me back any of my money. Man I was ****ing pissed.

Yup! That's what happened to me too. The best way is paying with credit card through Paypal and do chargeback if things go wrong. One thing to remember... If you have balance in your Paypal account, you can't pay with credit card. If I feel comfortable with the seller, I use Paypal balance. If not, I transfer all the money to my checking account and use credit card. Seriously, credit card company > Paypal.
Modified by 94_240sx at 6:06 AM 10/6/2006

[94_240sx]

No it was money order. not cash

Did you send M/O through USPS? I mean in the letter w/stamp on? Then it's a mail fraud which is a Federal Crime. Go here and fill out the form. Contact the post office and ask them is there anything they can do for you. Most of the time, they'll try to help you. Like amoalo said USPS takes money order fraud/scam seriously.

https://www.usps.com/postalins...t.htm

Search district attorney's office in seller's area and contact them. You should be able to find consumer protection agency too. Try seller's county office, police dept....etc. Tell your story and ask for help.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

Yea i paid money order through USPS. Uhh thanks for the big help everyone. Should react on the situation now? Or should i wait. What if the bumper comes today or tomorrow? I still hope everyday that it will come. What if i havent been scammed, but the shipment got delayed? Sigh damn it. Sorry to hear about you guys that have been scammed. i know how you guys feel.

[94_240sx]

Yea i paid money order through USPS. Uhh thanks for the big help everyone. Should react on the situation now? Or should i wait. What if the bumper comes today or tomorrow? I still hope everyday that it will come. What if i havent been scammed, but the shipment got delayed? Sigh damn it. Sorry to hear about you guys that have been scammed. i know how you guys feel.

Just go ahead and do it. Don't take any chance. If the bumper comes in, you can cancel the claim/complaint later. He should have let you know what's going on and made sure that you receive the bumper as described no matter what. You never take someone else's money for nothing.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

okay i guess ill go to the usps website you sent me and fill it out. Thx
Modified by 180sx+silvia=sileighty at 7:11 AM 10/6/2006

[irocknrol2]

Since you sent a USPS money order it is covered under federal laws concerning mail fraud if the item doesnt arrive or is not as advertised to be. If you can not contact him, turn the matter over to the post office, they have an investigative branch that will track that money order.

[nissan_blood]

Or jsut call your local authoritys and press charges this way he will have a court date in your city and get a letter in the mail. If he doesnt show charges go threw then he gets anouther court date for the crime from the state he doesnt show for that he has a warrant. These days they do find out warrants in other states cant just avoid them he would be brought to you to face trial and him not showing would be in a way him pleading guilty just because he didnt show. I dont see why it wouldnt work you got the proof that you sent it and that he received it.

[s13jus10]

dayum, a lot of people have been getting scammed lately.

good luck with your stuff man.

[vancouverbc]

I didnt get a response to my email. he may have moved or gone back to school and doesnt have time. I would definitely threaten him with mail fraud.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

Hey i sent in a report of fraud to usps. Uhh so he didn't reply? Where the f*** is he. How cant you not be on the computer for like 3 weeks? You gotta find sometime to hope on the internet. man f***. thanks for the help everyone and let me know if he emails you.

[nissan_blood]

He hasnt replied to me either. This is wack dudes a totle USDM h0m0. He probably switched his stuff. Hes probably on NICO in a defferent name and email address and **** reading this. I would just go threw the legal process and *** **** him that way. He would be the one paying in the end.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

Yea right now im waiting on a reply for usps. they are investigating. this guy is fvcked up. At least he could of emailed me. what a bastard. ill keep you guys updated if i find anything out, thx

[Alfador]

a lot of sketchy **** has been going on with sellers in classifieds now, it makes me almost hesitate to send people there because if you don't know what you're doing its getting easier and easier to get bit. I think some kind of feedback system might be good but it seems like it would be a ***** to impliment it fairly. The ONLY reason ebay's feedback system works is there is an incentive for good feedback to be posted, so that its not just the bad that gets heard. And thats hard to impliment, especially since nico only really functions as a classifieds and not a sales environment. I'm personally starting to keep a list of all buyers and sellers I have had dealings with here, on ebay, and stores such as some of the sponsors with detailed objective evaluations of my transaction. A.K.A. no accusations of this or that, simply <got product - yes/no, in condition expected yes/no, charged right price yes/no, delivered in x days, if any complications were they rectified yes/no,...> crap like that.

[Jiggyfry]

I know what your saying, im keeping a list of people I've dealt with on Nico classifieds too. So far so good, havent had any problems as of yet. I still say there should be some kind of public list of those who have scammed on NICO. A list of shame if you will. That way people could browse the list before makin a purchase. It wouldnt solve everything but it would show us who isnt trustworthy.

[amolao]

Please be very careful in the Classifieds. I bought a strut bar and the description didn't match the the seller claimed in the part out initially. At least in Ebay they feel somewhat obligated to describe the part accurately ......

[vancouverbc]

He got back to me and told me the item i requested is available. Not a good sign. I emailed him at his aol email and he got back to me with the aim email.

[email protected]

[s13swaaangin]

burn him alive, Now you know he's ripping you off man.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

SO what can i do now? Ask him how come the bumper is listed sold and if he still has it. damn it. BUt let me email him with this new email and see what his response on my bumper is. thanks

[mr.zenki]

watch out, he might be reading this...

[s13swaaangin]

f*&K that, get your money back. If he's responding to other people he can respond to you too. and since he didnt, get your money back!!!

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

yea i sent an email, hopefully he response to me

[vancouverbc]

The seller never got back to buyer(180sx+silvia=sileighty)

[JamesDaltonATP]

you guys are insane man....first of all, read the for sale thread of mine for my main response to all of this and to the guy that said i said the bumper was still availible, i have the email you sent to me which asked about the bumper and the fender roller and i responded saying the bumper was sold but the fender roller was still avail. So youre calling me a fraud, when im not, and fabricating lies. im actually impressed with how much response got to this to help this guy, the only good thing ive seen on this forum. i never check this site and didnt see this thread or the rest of my for sale thread. but anyways, read my response in my for sale thread and please stop lying about me saying i said the bumper was availible when i didnt.

[vancouverbc]

This seller is lying. He is facing mail fraud charges and will do anything to avoid a conviction.

He didnt respond to any of the seller's inquiries for weeks. However, he immediately responded to people posing as new buyers. The buyer has been in contact with me by private email and told me that his further attempts to contact seller were unsuccessful.

I would strongly advise people not to deal with this seller.

[180sx+silvia=sileighty]

UPDATE

Uhh hey guys. I got a reply from the seller like last week. He was trying to ship it, but he couldn't find a shipping carrier for less than $100 to ship it to me. So he let me know that if he did that he wouldnt be get the money he spent for it. So he's is gonna ship it to me and give me a tracking number. But i need to send him $50 to his paypal acount. total is $200 to get bumper shipped. I might be purchusing more item from the seller if hopefully all goes wells. He is going to add some parts to the shipments on my behalf of waiting a month for my item. So everything may work out good, thank god he isn't a fraud. but it was a good thing i had hope. thank you all and ill let you know when i get the bumper. Can't wait. thx