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I just bought tires: 245/35ZR19 for the front and 275/30ZR19 for the rear. I'm going to buy 19x8 for the front and 19x9.5 for the rear. The wheels that I want, I cannot afford (Work, BBS LM, Volk, etc.). I'm looking to spend no more than $500/wheel. I think the Q needs a healthy-wide 5-spoke or a mesh wheel.

BTW, my car is "beige" and that is the reason I'm having a hard time picking a wheel. I'm having a hard time picking a wheel that looks good with the color:

Here are a few that I've found:


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Hey, couple of questions...what kind of tires did you buy? Are you planning to roll your fenders in the rear?

As for rims, in 19" at less than 500 it is going to be slim pickings for new rims. I would have said look for 20" FX rims but since you already own those tires, you might look for some 06' M45 rims, I scored a set for my 97' but have not mounted them yet. You will need to use 1" spacers to make them work, but a few people have already done it. They look really nice, they are OEM quality, and made by Enkie so they are high quality.

I'm afraid at 500 is not much for this side, but others might chime in on this...of course you couldn't stagger the size.

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Do they have to be new wheels? and what offsets are you looking for ont hose sizes?

Lots of G35 coupe/350Z guys selling lightweight 19's. As well as the Rays Engineering forged 19's that were avaialble on the G35 coupe. I think there's a set for sale now that needs tires for ~$1300 ... I just have to remember where I saw them listed .

Also, don't for get about Racing Hart C4's.

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I like those Sports Engine wheels. JoshG35 ordered some in 19x9.5 for his G. I dont think he's got them delivered yet...

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BTW the BBS RS-GT in 19x8.5 are on "special/closeout" on TireRack (NICO sponsor) for $549, which is ana amazing price for that wheel new.

If you choose to get them, please either mention NICO when you call, or click the TireRack banner .


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BadQ45t wrote:Hey, couple of questions...what kind of tires did you buy? Are you planning to roll your fenders in the rear?

As for rims, in 19" at less than 500 it is going to be slim pickings for new rims. I would have said look for 20" FX rims but since you already own those tires, you might look for some 06' M45 rims, I scored a set for my 97' but have not mounted them yet. You will need to use 1" spacers to make them work, but a few people have already done it. They look really nice, they are OEM quality, and made by Enkie so they are high quality.

I'm afraid at 500 is not much for this side, but others might chime in on this...of course you couldn't stagger the size.
I bought Vredestein UltraC tires. They have been getting rave reviews the past 3-4 years but have gone unnoticed here in the states until the past few months. They are now standard equipment on several reputable cars (Aston Martin, Bugatti, etc.). I got fronts and rears for $620 shipped

I'm shooting for +15 or +20 offset in the front and +20 offset in the rear. I'll roll the fenders if I have to, but it should fit perfect. I'm not terribly interested in any OEM wheels. Used wheels are definately an option for me, BTW.

I'm just wanting some objective opinions.

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A few used (mostly JDM) wheel sites...

http://www.takumiproject.comhttp://www. ... om/gallery

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cullenj76 wrote:I just bought tires: 245/35ZR19 for the front and 275/30ZR19 for the rear. I'm going to buy 19x8 for the front and 19x9.5 for the rear. The wheels that I want, I cannot afford (Work, BBS LM, Volk, etc.). I'm looking to spend no more than $500/wheel. I think the Q needs a healthy-wide 5-spoke or a mesh wheel.
Okay you say you want Work, BBS, LM,... well instead of searching for wheels that will do, why don't you just save up and get the wheels that you really want? Sure you might be happy with the wheels you get, but in the back of your head you'll say yeah these are nice but I wish I had those Work wheels, BBS...., but that's just my 2 cents.

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Rex wrote:BTW the BBS RS-GT in 19x8.5 are on "special/closeout" on TireRack (NICO sponsor) for $549, which is ana amazing price for that wheel new.

If you choose to get them, please either mention NICO when you call, or click the TireRack banner .
Yeah what happened to Blake Bauer, our NICO guy at TR?

He was amazingly helpful in fittting my 18x9 OZ Racing Superleggera wheels as a non-specified fitment. Way under $500 per wheel, by the way, and strong (650 kgs.) and as light (20 lbs.) as the OEM 16x7.

As for your front tire, at 91 it is three points under the OEM minimum load rating, so neither a good nor a safe choice. Along with the larger rear increasing understeer, not a performance upgrade either.

Vredestein is known primarily as a bicycle tire manufacturer ( http://www.vredesteinusa.com/ ), and as an out of date classic automobile tire manufacturer. My experience with them is they do not last nor maintain balance very long (maybe 5K?). Bottom line, you get for what you pay.

Joe can make some great deals on Volk Racing.

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I would suggest waiting for the right wheels. I don't know what style you're going after for your car, but I can picture half of the wheels you've listed on a honda civic with a bunch of "type R" stickers on it. Mesh wheels look good on Y33, but everything lese just doesn't look right.

The offsets you've listed are OK...I guess your tires will be so wide you can't go that much lower with the offset anyway.

A few times I've been quoted $2300 for a complete set of AME wheels...you just have to search around. Tire rack or discount tire and other places like them don't have too many wheels that will have the right fitment.

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I'd suggest scouring the auctions and used wheel sites. It's not uncommon for someone to sell a low mile used set, as they are stepping up to 20's are going back to stock to make the car easier to seel or turning in a lease.
maxnix wrote:Yeah what happened to Blake Bauer, our NICO guy at TR?
IIRC, he either moved on in their organization or to another one. He was well liked, but then again most good people are in high demand.
maxnix wrote:strong (650 kgs.)
Are you sure on that number? Even the "no-name" wheels that were on my 94 Q when I bought it are stamped as 690kgs (if we choose to believe manufacturers ratings).


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These are really nice!


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maxnix wrote:Yeah what happened to Blake Bauer, our NICO guy at TR?

He was amazingly helpful in fittting my 18x9 OZ Racing Superleggera wheels as a non-specified fitment. Way under $500 per wheel, by the way, and strong (650 kgs.) and as light (20 lbs.) as the OEM 16x7.

As for your front tire, at 91 it is three points under the OEM minimum load rating, so neither a good nor a safe choice. Along with the larger rear increasing understeer, not a performance upgrade either.

Vredestein is known primarily as a bicycle tire manufacturer ( http://www.vredesteinusa.com/ ), and as an out of date classic automobile tire manufacturer. My experience with them is they do not last nor maintain balance very long (maybe 5K?). Bottom line, you get for what you pay.

Joe can make some great deals on Volk Racing.
Actually the front tires are a 93 and the rears are 96 which will be completely fine. If you can find me a 245/35-19 with a load rating higher than 93 (not XL) I'll paypal you $5.00.

I know what under/oversteer is and how it works, but thanks for the heads-up.

Thanks for the history on Vredestein, but what tire experience with Vredesteins are you speaking of because it contradicts all personal encounters that I'm aware of? 5kmi. balance? Was your experience with bias-belted tires or something I've had contact with 20+ people that own M3s, M5s, RSs, etc. that swear by them.

I can afford the Work Wheels that I want, but simply cannot justify spending half the worth of a vehicle in wheels/tires. I've wasted lots of money on lots of vehicles in the past.

Thanks for the honest opinions on the wheels everyone, especially recommendations to going the used route.

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These would require some spacershttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemThese are a touch narrow for your tireshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemAnother sethttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemShipping's a touch high on these (& his feedback is low)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemSome NISMO'shttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemSome Luffshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

Of course I'd look at these and sell your 19" tires.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

And the FX45 20's look nice on the Y33http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...20350There's also a pic of the non-chrome ones on a black Q somewhere.

For those that don't know I'm $1000 wheel whore on a $10 budget .

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Here's the black Y33 with the FX 20's.zerothread?id=150957

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if it helps, some of your selections are close to my wheels. I have 19" rpm-505's.

zerothread?id=181789

man I just did some research on my wheels (I didn't buy them-previous owner did), and I am very upset to see that my wheels are only $200 apiece. What makes it such a cheap wheel? Looking around, that seeems to be the absolute bottom of the 19" spectrum in pricing.


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Those are cool, looks like AME shallens, but I LOVE the 5zigen luxury line / Sports Engine wheels! I think depending on what WORK want's to do for me you found my next set of wheels.

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Well, I ordered my wheels today. I went with the AME Shallen AX:19 x 9 +15 SuperLow Disk19 x 10 +22 SuperLow Disk

They are made to order so it will be 60-90 days before I get them. I already received the Stechs (thanks, Kevin(Falk)) and should have the KYB SR Specials (thanks, Keving &OTG) in about a month. Should have everything ready to go around Thanksgiving and just in time to ruin a set of $2400 wheels.

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If you still have the 16" 20-slots, I'd like to talk about taking them off your hands - applies to anyone else who has a set, too.

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cullenj76 wrote:Actually the front tires are a 93 and the rears are 96 which will be completely fine. If you can find me a 245/35-19 with a load rating higher than 93 (not XL) I'll paypal you $5.00.

Thanks for the history on Vredestein, but what tire experience with Vredesteins are you speaking of because it contradicts all personal encounters that I'm aware of? 5kmi. balance? Was your experience with bias-belted tires or something
94 is OEM minimum for a FY33. Higher load rating (all other tire characteristics being equal, which they never are across brands) is better, so your studied aversion to XL rated tires is performance limiting. My PS2 work great and are XL rated at 98.

The steel belted Vredestein I had were crap, but one recieves pretty much as one pays. There are no secret short cuts to superior tire technology.

I do admire all those M5 and M3 you have personally owned, though. Just think how good they would have been with real high performance tires!

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maxnix wrote:94 is OEM minimum for a FY33. Higher load rating (all other tire characteristics being equal, which they never are across brands) is better, so your studied aversion to XL rated tires is performance limiting. My PS2 work great and are XL rated at 98.
Did you happen to score low in the reading comprehension portion of placement tests?
maxnix wrote:I do admire all those M5 and M3 you have personally owned, though. Just think how good they would have been with real high performance tires!
I do admire all your pointless, smartass comments. Just think how useful you could be if your posts had purpose!

Brian,

Please come down off the cross, we need the ****ing wood.

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I can't wait to see your Q with the AME's!!!

I saw some of the Sports Engine wheels at the EXC show, they didn't look too hot, but they were on a Lexus LS which has different offset and that probably had something to do with it.

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Falkdesigns wrote:I can't wait to see your Q with the AME's!!!

I saw some of the Sports Engine wheels at the EXC show, they didn't look too hot, but they were on a Lexus LS which has different offset and that probably had something to do with it.
Yeah, the SportsEngine wheels just didn't look right.I'm excited. I worked hard on getting the perfect (for me) offset. They'll extend exactly 18mm more that your wheels in the front and extend 4mm more than your rears. I didn't want it to stick out beyond the fender at all, but I absolutely did not want the wheels "sucked in". We'll see, but I'm anxious.
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Interesting, mine are +20 front and rear, how is the offset so different if numerically it's only 5mm less in front and 2mm more in back? The Super Low disk I assume?

Anyhow, I hope to have new wheels by November too, if I do, and if I have my Navi / DVD system in place then I'll show my car at HIN VIP show. I should probably put my wheels in the for sale forum to get the word out now.

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Falkdesigns wrote:Interesting, mine are +20 front and rear, how is the offset so different if numerically it's only 5mm less in front and 2mm more in back? The Super Low disk I assume?

Anyhow, I hope to have new wheels by November too, if I do, and if I have my Navi / DVD system in place then I'll show my car at HIN VIP show. I should probably put my wheels in the for sale forum to get the word out now.
The difference is large because my widths are 9" and 10" instead of yours at 8" and 9.5"

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Yeah, I missed that part, lol. I was thinking of this from your original post Quote »I'm going to buy 19x8 for the front and 19x9.5 for the rear[/quote] Okie dokie, back to work Kevin,


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