HELP!! DEALER INSTALLED LOWERING SPRINGS ON MY NEW INFINITI M35

Post by **aktae99** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:28 pm

Hey guys,

I just bought a brand new M35/journey/tech/DGM. The dealer had installed some aftermarket parts such as 20 inch Infiniti FX Chrome rims and lowered the car 1.25 inches. The car also has the aero kit, so its pretty low.

I'm worried that the car is too low, and also if these springs will effect the performance of the car. Like, would my ride be all "bouncy" now? The car itself looks sick but how good are these aftermarket springs. I think he said they were Stillen or Eibach's. If I need them replaced, there is like a $500 labor charge. They charged me $995 extra for the lowered springs.

I'm suppose to pick up the car tomorrow, any suggestions? PLEASE HELP!!thanks!

Post by **auditech10** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:04 am

Dont worry about it. They are most likely Eibach or Stillens which from what I have heard are very good springs. Your ride quality wont change that much, unless they are very stiff springs, which i doubt they are. You would notice a difference if you drove stock then drove lowered but I bet it wouldnt be that much. If a spring goes bad which most springs do, anywhere from 40K to 100K miles, dont worry just dont pay what the dealer wants to charge, thats a rediculous amount I think. Good luck and dont worry too much

Post by **Q45tech** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:52 am

And the springs nor anything connected to them will not be under Nissan warranty since this is a dealer mod.

The usual 12,000 mile cover all most everything [wheels/tires/brakes] is out the window.

Get a written separate warranty [4 year/60k] from dealership on these mods signed by an officer of corporation! If they balk run away fast.

Be concerned with oem shock life with added weight and even 15% stiffer springs.

Post by **TXSJaybird** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:51 pm

Wow...ive never heard of a dealer installing springs.

They should DEFINATELY warranty those. If not, dont buy it.

Would love to see some pics of it though...

Post by **auditech10** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:00 pm

Usually, from my experience with Audi, when we install aftermarket suspension and exhaust, etc we have offered at least a year warranty. It depends on the part isntalled but you should get something. If not, then like everybody said, dont bother.

Post by **aktae99** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:30 pm

I picked up my new G35. Actually, I was worried for nothin, like you said the suspension is still tight as a BMW and they put in the expensive Eibach springs.

The 1.1 inch drop with the aero kits looks sick~ I'll post pics when I take them one of these weekends. I also got them to give me all the stock springs so if I don't like it, I can just switch them out.

In terms of warranty, they said they stand by their work and if anything happens they'll honor the warranty since it left their dealership with those spring.

The car is Sweet. I test drove the Lexus GS300, and BMW 5, but I think I made the right decision. Meanwhile the new car smell is so freakin strong, I actually hope it would lose a little bit.

Post by **Q45tech** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:41 pm

they said get it in writing as you would be surprised at the turnover in employees.

They cannot honor anything if Nissan refuses to pay, and the chances of them eating it are NIL.

Post by **97nas14** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:26 pm

the dealer ships i worked for would honor warranty as long as the vehicle was under warranty.........they would eat it some how

Post by **auditech10** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:36 pm

Thats what I was trying to get at. The manufacturer didnt make or install the parts so there is no way in hell that Nissan/Infiniti would warranty it. Its basically the dealership using the aftermarket part's warranty and eating the labor. Its pennies to them, since the chance of a quality aftermarket spring is going to break or sag in 3 or 4 years. Just my 2 cents.

Post by **Q45tech** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:38 am

Who is going to pay for the accelerated wear on shocks and bushings. The faster wear on tires and failure to meet oem alignment specs later as these parts wear.

Not the factory because you changed their design.

Reselling modified cars can be more problematic.

Post by **97nas14** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:07 pm

bingo......your exactly right.............not nissans problem.....its between you and the dealership

Post by **Mattx10x** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:28 pm

Do you have the OEM springs as well? Change them back to original if you intend to sell your M or if you have a suspension failure before you bring it in for service. Changing the springs usually only cost around $150. The Ms do have a nicer looking stance lowered about a inch imo.

Post by **Q45tech** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:15 am

Modified cars SHOULD BE a red flag on trying to sell [BUY] any used car unfortunately the buyers don't have a clue and blame the manufacturer for things failing faster than they should.

The G35/M35/45 is one of the first Infiniti's to really get modified, all the previous models never got attacked in any numbers......a sway bar here and there or a few Eibach springs, a few JWT ecu/tcu, an occasional horrible cone filter for sound, a few loud exhaust, and tires and wheels but only 1 in a thousand was modified while the warranty was still in effect.

Post by **samshady** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:30 am

I want to see some pics

I had Eibachs back in the day on a Cavalier, then an Altima, and thought about putting them on my CTS-V. Would like to see a lowered M with them (and body kit).

Post by **CakeDaddy** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:54 am

A 1.1 in

Q45tech wrote:Who is going to pay for the accelerated wear on shocks and bushings. The faster wear on tires and failure to meet oem alignment specs later as these parts wear.

Not the factory because you changed their design.

Reselling modified cars can be more problematic.

A 1.1 inch drop will not affect the camber or the increase any wear and tear on bushings or tires. With a 1.1 inch drop the car WILL fall back in allignment specs with nooooo problem. If the dealer installed the springs they should have taken the necessary steps and re alligned the car.

I'm speaking from experience; I had my dealer install my eibachs and re-allign my M45 back in January. The only extra wear and tire on my tires are from me bending corners at high speeds

Post by **Q45tech** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:10 pm

There is the wear and tear wide range[alignment specs] to avoid warranty parts replacement and the midpoint of the range -----------the ideal camber point.

How do you proposes correcting the steering [tie rod angle] that lowering creates along with the extra bump steer this angle creates?

Post by **Mattx10x** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:17 pm

Not sure about the "Tie rod angle" since I havn't heard about many of those being replaced due to after market wheels/tires or suspension changes. As for the bump steer, my car doesn't do it at all. No hands on the wheel over manhole covers and bumps in the pavement, my car stays straight. My alignment after the Espiler springs where installed is just about to factory specs. Not exactly, but really close. I drive a car for the "look" way more than avoiding "accelerated wear" anyhow. These change in no way are ruining a car. Perhaps over 10 years this adds some extra wear. I keep a car no more than 2-3 years so not really a worry of mine.

Post by **projectm35** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:34 am

i got teins on my m35 it handles way better then stock . less body roll more responsive. i like it alot.

Post by **Q45tech** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:39 pm

"As for the bump steer, my car doesn't do it at all."

EVERY CAR HAS BUMP STEER because the tie rod angles change as the tire rises and falls!

Just because you don't notice it, is a tribute to engineering.Try doubling the speed at which you traverse a bump with your hands off the wheel and go at speed bumps at an angle.

The rack steering is very well damped but you can exceed the engineered in amount quite easily.

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