HELP compressor housing seperated and damaged wheel.

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my ca has a s15 t28 turbo. the guy that built this motor clocked the turbo(as you have to do when using it on a ca) but instead of using the c-clip he used the housing bolts. they were not tightened properly and the housing came loose from the backing plate causing damage to the compressor wheel(pic below). there dosnt seem to be any damage to the turbo other than the wheel fins. what i need to know is can i buy just the wheel and replace it or do i need to buy a new turbo? this is a new turbo with only about 100 miles on it and i dont ant to waste it. is there maybe even an up-graded wheel i can use?jason


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Wow..I've never seen this happen before. Good picture.

The turbo is now only good for spares. Good exhaust side and CHRA.

Although if the compressor housing damage is not too bad, a turbo place could replace the compressor wheel and rebalance it.

I think your engine builder is a bit of an *** if he did this. His business should be paying for the rebuild/replacement of the turbo.

Good Luck,Chris

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he isnt a professional. hes a friend he built the car and i bought it right after he finished building it. if you recall my post on the "jingling noise" that noise was the bolts coming loose. i kept driving it though like and idiot and desroyed the turbo.

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I would try contacting one of our sponsors that has a shop and see what they say. Somebody like Enjuku or Phase 2 are who I'd start with. You might also see if a local desiel engine (semi trucks) rebuilder might work on it. They usually have training with turbos.

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you will probably end up buying a new center cartridge, since it is ball bearing, no one will have parts for it, because no one rebuilds them. if you can get me the measurements of the wheel, i can see what we have laying around, i need the major and minor diameter of the wheel, the height of the fins, also the hieght of the shoulder. you will have to have the turbo rebalanced, but there are plenty of places that can rebalance for cheap.

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thanks. i found a local place that repairs and balances turbos. im going to see what they can do for me. if that dosnt work it will be time to upgrade and get a new gt2871r turbo and new fuel- system and tune.

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i might, its a big might, have a compressor wheel laying around thats in decent shape.

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i found my centersection. the wheels are still in good shape. it think this is my old one, its been few years since ive used it, the part number on the tag. 14411-91F00ED 9001j466541-0004 i think thats a BB s15 part number, icant remember which number signifys BB or non BB search up and let me know, ill ship the whole cartridge for 10$ what it will cost me to ship it.

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Any garrett distributor can get a T28 wheel. Contact http://www.forcedperformance.net They will definitely be able to get it for you. No sure on the cost, but I venture to say about $100-130.

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Not_a_sr wrote:i found my centersection. the wheels are still in good shape. it think this is my old one, its been few years since ive used it, the part number on the tag. 14411-91F00ED 9001j466541-0004 i think thats a BB s15 part number, icant remember which number signifys BB or non BB search up and let me know, ill ship the whole cartridge for 10$ what it will cost me to ship it.
thanks a lot. ill look into it today. i have called everyone that sells garret(all distributers on garrets site) none will sell me just a wheel.

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Not_a_sr wrote:i found my centersection. the wheels are still in good shape. it think this is my old one, its been few years since ive used it, the part number on the tag. 14411-91F00ED 9001j466541-0004 i think thats a BB s15 part number, icant remember which number signifys BB or non BB search up and let me know, ill ship the whole cartridge for 10$ what it will cost me to ship it.
the number on mine isff0171j14411-69f00466541-7001i dont know if it will work but if your is a t28 then the wheel may interchange. anybody here know what the numbers mean? i would like to buy yours though on the chance it may work.

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Posted on http://www.nissansilvia.com

the first number is a batch number, it tells you when/where it was builtThe second number is the "oem" number. On a nissan turbo it's a nissan part number, on an HKS turbo it's an HKS part number, on a garret turbo it's a garret number, on a Tomei turbo it's a tomei number etc etc. 14411-69F00 is a nissan part number.The last number is a chra number. 466541 is a ball bearing cart with a 60 trim 60mm comp wheel and a 62 trim 53.8 mm turbine wheel, 466543 is a brush bearing cart with the same wheels. On this particular turbo the second part of that number describes what turbine housing is used. If it ends in 01 it means the "normal" turbine housing, if it ends in 02 it means the S15 turbine housing with the splitter between the turbine and wastegate exit.

Based on that you can see that the turbo you've got is an S14 ball bearing (almost certainly JDM) T28. The only difference between it and the garrett GT28R is it's age

we both have BB t28s, mine has a wierd last digit 04 i dont remember if it had the split rear housing, i think so but who knows. and if you end up going with a GT2871 let me know i might beable to give you a deal on one.

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OguraPowerTuning wrote:my ca has a s15 t28 turbo. the guy that built this motor clocked the turbo(as you have to do when using it on a ca) but instead of using the c-clip he used the housing bolts. they were not tightened properly and the housing came loose from the backing plate causing damage to the compressor wheel(pic below). there dosnt seem to be any damage to the turbo other than the wheel fins. what i need to know is can i buy just the wheel and replace it or do i need to buy a new turbo? this is a new turbo with only about 100 miles on it and i dont ant to waste it. is there maybe even an up-graded wheel i can use?
If you end up not using the turbo I'd be willing to buy it off you.

-m

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mbmbmb23 wrote:
If you end up not using the turbo I'd be willing to buy it off you.

-m
throw me an offer because i most likely will be getting a garret gt2871r. everything is good(and brand new) except the wheel. my email [email protected]

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Well...my offer would probably be fairly lower than you'd be looking for ($200ish) so.....let me show you what I found if you were to keep it.

Here is where you can check the Garrett specs:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/....html

GT2560R - 466541 - 1 for the regular S14/S15 turbo

And I found this link on ebay to buy a new wheel:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

-Matt

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thanks for the ebay wheel link. im checking with the seller. if he dosnt have the wheel i need. ill take 150 for the turbo as it is.

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Just let me know once you find out. I have an S14 non bb turbo I'm rebuilding and one of the CHRA to turbine housing bolts had a head break off.

-Matt

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Modified by mbmbmb23 at 9:10 PM 6/25/2006

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OguraPowerTuning wrote:thanks for the ebay wheel link. im checking with the seller. if he dosnt have the wheel i need. ill take 150 for the turbo as it is.
Update on this? Still for sale?

thanks,

-Matt


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