Heel toe, will metal pedals help?

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apzak
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Hey,

I'm practicing heal toe downshifting and it seems like a steel pedal surface will help make heal toe shifting easier. Wouldn't it be easier to pivot your toe on a metal surface vs. rubber? I wear sneakers when I drive so rubber and rubber don't slip easily.

What do you guys say, should I get metal surface pedals, (or suggest something here) or should I improve my skill because anyone should be able to heal toe on rubber pedals? I can heal toe right now on the rubber pedals, but not as quickly as i'd like.

thanks,

adam


chmercer
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meh, stock pedals work ok for me but i dunno

zombieman
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i think it really doesn't matter, i did it on my fastback which has metal petal for the brake and acceleration, rubber for the clutch. i also did it on my bro fastback which is plain stock. i'm still able to get the same effect.

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SmithSR
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These pedals and pedal covers are sold to give a car a certain "look".

Don't be fooled; practice technique; stop worrying about whether a pedal will make you better(it won't). The only thing that will improve your technique in this matter is practice.

Repetition is the mother of all skills.

Also, take some of your own advice(which seems quite good)..."Technique isn't something to be taught, you must acquire it yourself."

Don't look for a pedal to improve your skill. Adapt. Overcome.

apzak
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zombieman wrote:i think it really doesn't matter, i did it on my fastback which has metal petal for the brake and acceleration, rubber for the clutch. i also did it on my bro fastback which is plain stock. i'm still able to get the same effect.


saved me $10.. got back from practicing around my neighborhood and i'm definetly getting better. I just have to know exactly where to have my foot.. I need more practice but hopefully if I decide to autocross this fall i can impress an instructor.. maybe that and get good at tight drifts.. that should be real impressive for a first time autocrosser. I'm also working on looking down the road as far as possible. Something I heard is very important in autocross

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You can always take the plastic cover off the clutch too, pretty slippery metal underneath.

apzak
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I don't think I need a slippery surface for the clutch pedal, my left foot isn't pivoting during heal toe, unless i'm doing something wrong? I use my right foot for brake and gas as the same time, that's heal toe right?

chmercer
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yes thats right, HEEL toe ;)

here is a little info btw http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/heeltoe.html

apzak
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haha heal.. anyways i'll look into that website thanks

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WingsNThangs
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Isn't it technically "toe-heel" since the toe comes first and then the heel?

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Not really. I read this document above and it did seem to infer that you hod the brake with the toe of your foot and blip the throttle with your heal but in the racing book that i have ("Going faster" by The skip barber racing school) you hold the brake with your heal and blip the throtle with you toe. I have not been able to do this on my 92' hatchback because the brake and gas are side by side but too far apart even for a foot as wide mine to reach the gas while even touching the break. On some sports cars the pedals brake pedal is slightly lower or closer to the driver than the gas pedal.

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WingsNThangs wrote:Isn't it technically "toe-heel" since the toe comes first and then the heel?
"Technichally," it's arch-of-the-foot-heel. Sorry, I'm just a wise a*s by nature. :D

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prigo
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I can't do a "true" heel-toe, because, quite frankly, I have size 15 shoes, and it just doesnt fit. So I got my ricer pedal covers, and kinda roll my wide *** foot from the brake to the gas :doh

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Unless you need the spacing changed, a metal pad in the same size as the stock rubber pad offers no advantage. Actually i think a metal pad may be worse if your shoe soles are wet. I prefer the grip of the rubber pad. Less likely to slip. 240sx stock pedals are very nicely spaced for heel/toe, but I have average sized feet.

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you could always get the funk master flex driving shoe.

its gotta be tha shoes!


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