health care bill vote about to go down.

[themadscientist]

I just declared war on my congressman.

http://www.themadmoderate.com/....html

[Travisty]

I just declared war on my congressman.

http://www.themadmoderate.com/....html

It's going down!

[BusyBadger]

Fortunately (despite the results) I don't have to write such a letter to my congressman or either TN senator.

But then, my congressman is a former MD and understands what a bad idea it is, especially after a similar program called TennCare was initiated in Tennessee years ago. Cost increases made TN cut healthcare because TennCare was unsustainable financially.

[Dattebayo]

Well, my kids are f***ed.

Wow. You are 17.

How very Tennessee of you.

[krimsonviper]

It's going down!

Please fix your sig to the appropriate size of 600x200 pixels.

[THawks]

Hopefully this will be complementary with every doctor's visit.

Lube is only available with the "Cadillac plan"

[HashiriyaS14]

I MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED YO THREAD.

[HashiriyaS14]

While I don't buy the "80% opposed" stuff regarding Obamacare, I do think that it's doing a lot of things wrong.

David Frum, former GWB speechwriter, pretty much sums up my objections in the following article. The "repeal the whole thing" cries are unrealistic. Frum's got it straight about what the achievable changes/revisions might be.

THIS is a platform to run on, conservative mid-termers. Take Note!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINIO...pt=T2

[PoorManQ45]

Ugh... This wasn't political to begin with. It was just an announcement of pending butt rape.

I hate when things disappear in to the sub forums...

[HashiriyaS14]

Ugh... This wasn't political to begin with. It was just an announcement of pending butt rape.

I hate when things disappear in to the sub forums...

FWIW, I agree that the original post was A-OK for Genchat. It quickly morphed into something only suited for this sub-section, however.

[PoorManQ45]

I just wish that we could keep these chats in general. You get a crapload of responses. Even though they're mostly useless, usually my responses, but a lot of times the discussion goes very well. At least until the end... Then it's just some people bickering.

[snwbrdr435]

http://politics.polls.newsvine...43001

[krimsonviper]

For the politically retarded, what happened last night and how does it affect me, a future healthcare worker?

[srellim234]

My personal take on it is that it will provide you with a little more job security (more patients being forced through private healthcare), but at a lower rate of pay (unless you're upper management or on the board of directors).

[krimsonviper]

So, as a dental assistant, my pay might lower? Damn this bill...

[dusred]

http://politics.polls.newsvine...43001

Damn. And that's on MSNBC too, one of the most liberal "news stations". If they were to do that same poll on Fox it would be 99% angry.

[srellim234]

Both of those are reaching the fringes of the spectrum and not the average citizen. This one is probably a little more mainstream than either of those and shows support for the bill, although none of these surveys have been scientifically conducted.

http://www.ktla.com/news/poll/....poll

[snwbrdr435]

^ It is also in LA.................

[srellim234]

Like I said, it wasn't scientificaly conducted, but people voing at KTLA are generally people who aren't devoted to the false truths being preached to them by MSNBC and Fox. They are mostly people who get up in the morning with the news on to catch the weather and traffic for their ride to work, catching little tidbits of news in the process. People who work for a living and are watching their friends' and their worlds collapse around them and want something done.

The KTLA viewing audience includes ultraconservative Orange County as well as ultraliberal West Hollywood, so who knows who voted here? My guess is that people a little more middle of the road and mainstream voted.

The point is that the far left is against it because it doesn't go far enough. The far right is against it because it actually does something. When you piss off both extremes but there is support in the middle you may have reached somewhat of a decent compromise. Time will tell.

[UpStar]

Despite all the negativity from those racist, vandalizing haters screaming that this is the worst thing since the OJ trial and 9/11....Im excited that it passed. Good Job President Obama and thanks for the health care bill and the home tax credits.

as VP said, "This is a BIG F#$@king deal!
Modified by UpStar at 5:07 AM 3/24/2010

[Jesda]

Get something "done" by forcing others to pay for it. WHAT A BRILLIANT AND CLEVER PLAN.

[srellim234]

Yep. The previous administration proved that it was a brilliant plan, forcing the taxpayers to pay billions to further enrichen their cronies and pay for their holy war.

When will voters wake up and throw ALL the bums out?

[telcoman]

Get something "done" by forcing others to pay for it. WHAT A BRILLIANT AND CLEVER PLAN.

Can you explain the concept of insurance?

Telcoman

[marlin29311]

Can you explain the concept of insurance?

Telcoman

Coverage by contract in which one party agrees to indemnify or reimburse another for loss that occurs under the terms of the contract.

I see what you're trying to do here, but it doesn't work that way.

In REAL insurance, you get benefit from paying your premium. You get the assurance that if you have a claim, you will get money for it in the end. Insurance is not a redistribution of wealth, it's a monetary service granted by the company.

If your house burns down, then yes, part of my insurance premium goes to pay your claim. BUT! if my house burns down, guess what, I get paid too, and part of your premium goes to paying my claim!

No one is forced to purchase insurance (except for auto or if you have a mortgage (mortgages are only mandated by banks, not the gov't)). People buy insurance because they want piece of mind in the end if a claim arises and EVERYONE gets the same benefit - the payout for the claim.

By forcing me to PAY for something I don't want/already get somewhere else, I'm not getting the same benefit as someone WHO ISN'T PAYING FOR IT. That's SOCAILISM, NOT INSURANCE. Perceived equality and actual equality are 2 completely different things.

[barefoot mat]

all this means is more government control.
remember: big brother is watching you and wants you all to have healthcare.

[Jesda]

MANDATE LOWER COSTS
CREATE SHORTAGE

THEREIFIXEDIT.COM

[audtatious]

Pretty much. If you can't pay for your own stuff then the "people" should dig deep and provide it for you via the Gov.....only if the Gov agrees with it.