Having some problems with the safc or is it something else?

Your premier source for information on the Turbo KA: KA24E-T and KA24DE-T (KA with aftermarket turbo kit)!
User avatar
s13drft89
Posts: 498
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:41 pm
Car: 1991 Twin Turbo 300zx & 1968 Mercury Cougar

Post

Hey,Well i finally got everything done in the engine bay, now its the safc. Well i was reading another forum, on how to set the decel settings. Well he had said on the post to put the ne1 to about 4 and ne2 to about 5 and then the throttle to 1%, and he said to start the car cold(over night rest), and from there change it to the decel in the safc, he said to start lowering the ne1 point until you get a smooth idle. I had started to lower it down and i went all the way down to 0 and the car still ran the same?????? He said that if you can put it down to 0 theres a setting or a problem wrong. heres my setupSSAC ManiT28 hybrid garrett370cc injectorssmic from sr piped and everythingwalbro 255apexi safc vr 13inch down pipe and elbowboost and a/f gaugeMegan fuel pressure regulator(that all comes to mind for right now)

Also my car is running super rich, i changed the o2 sensor and still nothing. I have the apexi down to -27 for low throttle and -15 for high throttle. Here is the site for setting the decel settings http://forums.freshalloy.com/u...73668 Please if anyone can help, iam almost done with this thing.-Ricky

Also forgot the mention its a KA24DE on a 93


User avatar
onosqv
Posts: 5675
Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:32 pm
Car: '92 240sx Vert
Contact:

Post

s13drft89 wrote:Megan fuel pressure regulator...Also my car is running super rich
Did you also get a fuel pressure gauge (or does the megan one come w/ one)? Do you have fuel pressure settings correct?

for your safc settings... you should already have a smooth idle to begin w/, and you are suppose to use the lowest number while still having a good idle, not to obtain a good idle. If your car doesn't idle correctly while it is cold in the first place - then you need to fix that problem first.

That is my interpretation of this link w/ info on how to set dec air:http://www.zeroyon.com/index/content/view/64/47/

User avatar
s13drft89
Posts: 498
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:41 pm
Car: 1991 Twin Turbo 300zx & 1968 Mercury Cougar

Post

Well i have a great idle, about 1k. THe fpr is around 40-50ish psi, yes it has a gauge on the actuall fpr(thats where i got those numbers from). I did all the steps that it says up there or the site you sent me. Well i can go all the way down to "0" for NE1 and NE2 at the same time or at different settings say NE1-0 and then NE2-5, and the car idles the same. I check all my settings everything it correct, as well as it being hooked up the my harness. Any other ideas??-Ricky

User avatar
Chezedik
Posts: 4726
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:35 pm
Car: 1991 Nissan 240sx

Post

Megan FPR comes with one.

User avatar
s13drft89
Posts: 498
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:41 pm
Car: 1991 Twin Turbo 300zx & 1968 Mercury Cougar

Post

With the gauge?Yea i know, the numbers that i had just gave you was the one as idle, with the vacuum line hooked up and unhooked.-Ricky

User avatar
s13drft89
Posts: 498
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:41 pm
Car: 1991 Twin Turbo 300zx & 1968 Mercury Cougar

Post

also my timing is set at 20btdc (stock), might that cause any problems for running rich? iam going to be getting my car dyno tuned, and do yuo think they will be able to play with the timing from the dist..??-Ricky

User avatar
s13drft89
Posts: 498
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:41 pm
Car: 1991 Twin Turbo 300zx & 1968 Mercury Cougar

Post

cmon guys ne help???????

User avatar
Ligouri Rd
Posts: 449
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:02 am
Car: '96 Nissan 240SX

Post

First of all how do you know you are running rich, do you have a wideband air fuel meter, if so what is the ratio? Under boost you should be no less than 12, at idle the o2 sensor will keep you at 14 or so. No wideband, go to a dyno that does.

The timing will have no effect on mixture. 20 degrees btdc is fine for under 7psi. Cut back a half degree per pound of boost over 7 psi.

I am assuming the reason you are messing with the decel air is you plan to run an atmospherically vented blow off valve. The way i understand the setup is you rev the motor up to your first ne point and record the air flow percentage. Next you rev the motor to the second ne point and again record the air flow percentage. Those air flow values get entered into the ne1 and ne2 for the decel air settings. The throttle point is where the decel air settings will go into effect. 1% is pretty much throttle body closed. The idea is that when the throttle body is closed and you are blowing out maf measured air that the safc will tell the ecu that not much air is coming in and cut back on the fuel it needs. No stall

If after messing with all of that you are still getting backfiring then you may have a torn o-ring on one or more injectors dumping raw fuel into the engine.


Return to “KA24ET / KA24DET Forum”