Have a 2008 EX35, Thinking about trading for a 2010 EX35, What's changed?

Discussion of Infiniti's amazing (and underrated) sport-luxury crossovers, the EX35 and EX37. For 2014, the EX series will be renamed QX50, in line with Ininfiit's new naming conventions.
akaScott
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Hi All,

I know that:- The navigation system was updated

It looks like:- The Around View Monitor has been updated

Things the salesman mentioned:- I can now download music from an iPod- There's more rear legroom (1 1/2 inches)

, but I'm curious as to whether what salesman stated is true and also what else has changed

Also, I have 18" wheels on my 2008 EX35. If I went to 17" tires with the 2010 EX35, should I expect MPG to go up (due to the lower weight of the smaller tires)?

Thanks


akaScott
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There's a lag when hitting the gas in the 2008 EX35. The 2010 EX35 I test drove today, didn't seem to have the same lag. Has the acceleration on the newer EX35's been modified?

Also, are there any differences in the ride between the two model years?

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pwlorraine
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I don't know if there is another 1.5" in the back - my understanding is that the difference is they've carved out a little from the back of the front seats. Electronics is more up to date.

Next year I'd expect the EX37 - why not wait a year for that?

Peter

akaScott
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I had looked to see if the EX37 was coming to the United States, but didn't find anything. If it really is coming in 2011, I might very well wait.

Where did you here about the EX37 coming in 2011?

flashzoom
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I think the EX37 is still up in the air.not guarrantee it will come to USA next year or anytime soon.since they made some minor changes to the EX35 this year, don't think it will be wise to get the EX37 into USA, when they just made some updates to the current EX35. especially, when EX35 is not a hot selling car with great profits.

akaScott
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That was my conclusion as well. After seeing pwlorraine's post, I did a search and found that there's going to be a EX30d (Diesel) version coming to Europe soon.

Not a speedster by any means, but it looks like it'll get fantastic mileage.

pwlorraine
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An EX37 is only what I would expect - not anything Infiniti has announced as far as I know for North America. But I'd at least wait until the 2011 details are announced (summer?) unless you are in a rush. I'd wait for an EX37. I probably wouldn't upgrade to an 2010 from a 2008 unless you are coming off a lease as I don't see enough changes. I'd upgrade if I were looking at a new M - the M37 is gorgeous in my opinion - or if I wanted the increased size of the FX35.

Peter

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inteller
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They should offer the firmware upgrade for the NAV to current owners under warranty. It is BS that you have to download from CDs only in a 2008.

flashzoom
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I am pretty sure the Hardware on the new 2010 EX Navi is different.It has the better display, with better resolution. If anything else was changed on the Navi, I am not sure.also the heated leather chair has been upgrade, the old switch only shows Hi/Lo/off, the currentl switch has off/1/2/3/4/5/6.

akaScott
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The differences are what I'm trying to get at. I took a test drive of the 2010 model this past weekend and liked it. According to KBB.com, the trade-in value on my car is about $5,500 less than I paid for the car. Along with the deals available on the new EX35, and if I give up some options (my 2008 is loaded, but I don't really need most of the options I have), I probably wouldn't have to pay to much.

At this point I'm just curious, as I could end up with a car that's two years newer, for just a few thousand more.

pwlorraine
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akaScott wrote:The differences are what I'm trying to get at. I took a test drive of the 2010 model this past weekend and liked it. According to KBB.com, the trade-in value on my car is about $5,500 less than I paid for the car. Along with the deals available on the new EX35, and if I give up some options (my 2008 is loaded, but I don't really need most of the options I have), I probably wouldn't have to pay to much.

At this point I'm just curious, as I could end up with a car that's two years newer, for just a few thousand more.
That sounds like a good deal but I'm surprised - I would have thought you would have taken a much bigger depreciation hit than that. If I could switch up to the current model every 2-3 years for $5000 or so then I'd do that - I would have guessed ownership of this car is closer to $6000/year for the first few years. $5000 every 2 years is about $200 a month which is very low. I'd take that deal.

Peter

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I lucked out in that I bought the car in Dec 2008, when there were some great incentives. I doubt I'll be able to do the same type of deal again in another two years.

wxman
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inteller wrote:They should offer the firmware upgrade for the NAV to current owners under warranty. It is BS that you have to download from CDs only in a 2008.
Firmware has nothing to do with how the maps are accessed. On the older system CDs are used. On the newer one the maps are stored on the harddrive, it's supposed to be faster, but the difference is marginal. The better display on the 2010 can't be changed with new firmware. Just have to live with the fact that new cars will always have some new bells and whistles, no big deal.

hdfreak
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You still can't download music from an iPod. You can play music from an iPod/iPhone (even through bluetooth) or USB stick, but you can still only download to hard drive from a CD.

Here's a vid of an Infiniti rep talking about why you can't download from other media on the 2008 hard drive version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...1m00s

Bottom line.. "Talk to our lawyers." It's about copyright issues, which is kind of silly since I can still borrow anyone's CD wallet and rip away..

akaScott
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Thanks for the 411. I went to another dealer last weekend that told me the same thing.

I get the copyright issue, but it's just a pain to hunt again for every CD as they're all stored away once I rip them.

The limit on my CompactFlash is 512 songs (I believe). Is there a limitation using the USB port?

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jamesstock
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I wonder if you can rip your MP3s to wave and burn onto a CD (which makes it just like a regular audio CD). Then stick that into the CD slot and probably the system will store the songs to the HD. ANyone tried this way?

sg77
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jamesstock wrote:I wonder if you can rip your MP3s to wave and burn onto a CD (which makes it just like a regular audio CD). Then stick that into the CD slot and probably the system will store the songs to the HD. ANyone tried this way?
That should work. Note though that you'll get lower sound quality that way, since the mp3 was compressed already, and you're decompressing it and letting the car compress it again. You might not notice the difference though. Might not be worth the effort though.

akaScott
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jamesstock wrote:I wonder if you can rip your MP3s to wave and burn onto a CD (which makes it just like a regular audio CD). Then stick that into the CD slot and probably the system will store the songs to the HD. ANyone tried this way?
Let me know if that works for you.
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wxman
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jamesstock wrote:I wonder if you can rip your MP3s to wave and burn onto a CD (which makes it just like a regular audio CD). Then stick that into the CD slot and probably the system will store the songs to the HD. ANyone tried this way?
It definitely works. And, if you record your songs in the same order as an album the Gracenote will tag it perfectly to -- it will NOT tag individual songs unless they are loaded as part of a full album, so it seems that gracenote recognizes albums only. Sound is just fine going MP3 to WAV (A/K/A as "audio cd"). I use a reusable CD-RW for this purpose, and have loaded a number of albums this way from my MP3 collection.

akaScott
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Can you put more than one mp3 album on a CD separated into folders for each album?

hdfreak
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I just dropped 558 mp3 tracks in various folders onto a dual-layer DVD (~8 GB) and they played perfectly. Did take about a minute and a half to intially "scan" the DVD before it started playing, and took around 20 seconds to do the same when I turned the car off and back on.

Also, learned that if you hold down the steering wheel skip button it will skip to the next folder versus playing the track quickly.

akaScott
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hdfreak wrote:I just dropped 558 mp3 tracks in various folders onto a dual-layer DVD (~8 GB) and they played perfectly. Did take about a minute and a half to intially "scan" the DVD before it started playing, and took around 20 seconds to do the same when I turned the car off and back on.

Also, learned that if you hold down the steering wheel skip button it will skip to the next folder versus playing the track quickly.
That's great. For me, however, I've been a fan of the CompactFlash drive in my 2008. I have 500+ songs on an 8GB CompactFlash card, which loads in around 10 to 15 seconds, so I'm curious. Have people been able to use USB flash drives and/or USB hard drives in their 2010 EX35's with success? Also, does anyone know the number of songs that can be played from a (USB flash drive or USB hard drive or a CD/DVD)? For my CompactFlash drive, I believe the limit is 512.

Thanks

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Does anyone know how the navi song stereo system can display say foreign language song names? Can I get an upgrade in the software so I get multi language display (Chinese, Japanese etc...)?

wxman
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akaScott wrote:Can you put more than one mp3 album on a CD separated into folders for each album?
Sure, but I thought the goal was to"trick" the music box into recording (not just playing the CD). If so you need to convert the MP3 to WAV, and not much more than an album or perhaps two will fit on a CD in WAV format.

wxman
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akaScott wrote:That's great. For me, however, I've been a fan of the CompactFlash drive in my 2008. I have 500+ songs on an 8GB CompactFlash card, which loads in around 10 to 15 seconds, so I'm curious. Have people been able to use USB flash drives and/or USB hard drives in their 2010 EX35's with success? Also, does anyone know the number of songs that can be played from a (USB flash drive or USB hard drive or a CD/DVD)? For my CompactFlash drive, I believe the limit is 512.

Thanks
USB works great... I use a tiny 16gb deal I bought for like 35 bucks from New Egg.

akaScott
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wxman wrote:
Sure, but I thought the goal was to"trick" the music box into recording (not just playing the CD). If so you need to convert the MP3 to WAV, and not much more than an album or perhaps two will fit on a CD in WAV format.
You're right, my bad

akaScott
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wxman wrote:
USB works great... I use a tiny 16gb deal I bought for like 35 bucks from New Egg.
How many songs were you able to get on your USB drive?

wxman
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akaScott wrote:How many songs were you able to get on your USB drive?
So far I have a 300 song play list and about 10 albums... and the drive still has at least 10 gigs left, probably more.


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