Has anyone looked into supercharging their m45?

[erocksm]

I have an 03 m45 and would like to supercharge it. I can't seem to find any aftermarket co. that makes one for the 03 or 04. Also I would like to know if anyone has chipped their m45 and if so what co. did you use and are you happy with the results?

[ken in az]

I have an 03 m45 and would like to supercharge it. I can't seem to find any aftermarket co. that makes one for the 03 or 04. Also I would like to know if anyone has chipped their m45 and if so what co. did you use and are you happy with the results?

No, but there was a company that did a short run of Q45 superchargers.....check the Q45 forum for info

[szh]

No, but there was a company that did a short run of Q45 superchargers.....check the Q45 forum for info

Keuylian Motors.

Long out of business ... unfortunately.

There are no known 2003 M45 superchargers. If you find one, please let us know.

Z

[nmgoodthing]

No Dice on the Supercharger. If you find one, it's not going to be cheap. Like not cheap as in your better off buying a whole new car with what it would cost and mod that to be faster.

Your best bet would be to twin turbo but that would also be pricey and lots of stuff would probably break as we don't know what max power internals and drive train can handle.

[CakeDaddy]

No Dice on the Supercharger. If you find one, it's not going to be cheap. Like not cheap as in your better off buying a whole new car with what it would cost and mod that to be faster.

Your best bet would be to twin turbo but that would also be pricey and lots of stuff would probably break as we don't know what max power internals and drive train can handle.

Question: I thought turbo’s were better suited for the smaller engines (4cyl-6cyl) cars etc.. while the Superchargers are more designed for larger V8’s and so on? Educate me.

Q45 SC:zerothread?id=187395

[nmgoodthing]

Turbos are good for all applications, This is why there are different sized turbos. Compression ratio also makes a difference. With our M's I see maybe running only 8#'s of boost to be conservative.

Superchargers do not have the lag that Turbos do. Fairly descent sized snails would do wonders for the M. At least at our altitude. I'm no expert so anyone please correct me. I personally would prefer Turbo over a SC.

There are plenty of Supercharged V6's. The Frontier being one of them and the latter Chevy Cobolt which recently moved to Turbo. Maybe the Cobot was a 4 banger, I'm not positive.

Look at the snails on this bad boy. http://i417.photobucket.com/al...5.jpg

With that v8 and those turbos, it would suck in kittens and maybe small children.

[Johntomferg]

http://www.fluidmotorunion.com/gallery

Twin Turbo, rear mount, setup for M45 (06+) .

I asked them about it back in October, they said it wasn't where they wanted it to be yet. I just pinged them again (after reading this thread and shuffling through emails to find the thread).

[nmgoodthing]

I would bet these guys could hook us up.

http://www.ststurbo.com/

My performace shop says there is plenty of room underneath for rear mount turbos.

[AtlM]

Plenty of room for the turbos, but what about room for piping back to the engine bay?

[M4T5]

Plenty of room for the turbos, but what about room for piping back to the engine bay?

It could be done, but it would hang slightly lower than the bottom of the car more than likely.Getting four sets of pipes over the rear suspension might be tricky as well.It sure would be nice to see them do a kit for us though.... we all like to dream.

J

[szh]

Also I would like to know if anyone has chipped their m45 and if so what co. did you use and are you happy with the results?

I doubt that anyone has done the research to try and improve the 2003 or 2004 M45 engine programming ... not worth the time or money since the market for this would be too low to justify the expense (not enough of the early model M45's were sold).

And, it ain't easy to do this kind of stuff without running afoul of smog regulations in many states.

Be happy with power you do have, is my motto! Although, a properly done super- or turbo-charger for these cars would be nice. Not likely, but one can always dream, I suppose.

Years ago, I looked hard for the Keuylian one (since the 2003 M45 shared the same engine as the 2002+ Q45) but could not find one ... Closest I came was a Keuylian-equipped 2002 Q45 being sold in Washington state (as I recall) and I did not want to buy the entire car.

Oh, well.

Z

[ken in az]

Be happy with power you do have, is my motto!

That has to be the lamest thing I have ever heard! That's like saying "I enjoy being stuck in traffic everyday and I consider myself successful even though I still make the same money I did when I was 18"

Sorry, that is a terrible motto. Can we have a performance only section? The intermixing of performance oriented and the normal people make it difficult to advance any type of aftermarket performance modifications.

Case in point, when I contacted UpRev about tuning these ECU's, they said I was the first to call and ask about it. Since I started posting in these forums - When I talked to them on Wednesday - they told me they receive about 2 calls a day about the M45's

Lets keep it rolling guys!!!

[szh]

That has to be the lamest thing I have ever heard! That's like saying "I enjoy being stuck in traffic everyday and I consider myself successful even though I still make the same money I did when I was 18"

Well, don't get me TOO wrong!

Believe me, I am all for adding power when it really makes a difference and is affordable enough that everybody will do it. But, the fact is, that MOST people do not even bother maintaining their cars to where it STILL meets the performance it had shortly after breaking the engine in.

Fact of life. Everybody talks a good line, but it is rare to see any follow-through! If you are one of the people who do look after their cars, and do a good job to enhance power, etc., then I will to you for sure. But, you will be a rare M owner, IMHO!

So, as far as I am concerned, worrying about extracting an added 10HP (which has relatively little effect on anything other than butt dynos. ) is a pointless waste of time, when, in many cases, something in the chain is usually taking away that much power if the car is not maintained well and/or has daily-driving reliability problems. Or, people swap out for heavier larger wheels for example!

If you can find me a place where I can buy a super-charger or a turbo-charger for my 2003 M45, and ALL the necessary engineering (turbo quality, extra oil cooling, ECU reprogramming, reliability - that was one of the Keuylian failure modes - transmissions beefing, etc.) has been properly taken into account, and the end-result is a gain of AT LEAST 50 HP at the wheels to make it worthwhile, then I will line up in a heart beat to get it (after current economy recovers slightly though - my stock values have dropped recently)!

In the meantime, I will spend my hard-earned money on keeping my car as close to running in perfect stock condition as I can - that gets me more than satisfied enough with my M45's performance! See my "kills" thread for why I say that! And my thread on "overkill" for what I do to make sure that the performance is better than most M45's out there (but still not better than "new" stock though).

Z

[ken in az]

Well, don't get me TOO wrong!

Believe me, I am all for adding power when it really makes a difference and is affordable enough that everybody will do it. But, the fact is, that MOST people do not even bother maintaining their cars to where it STILL meets the performance it had shortly after breaking the engine in.

Fact of life. Everybody talks a good line, but it is rare to see any follow-through! If you are one of the people who do look after their cars, and do a good job to enhance power, etc., then I will to you for sure. But, you will be a rare M owner, IMHO!

So, as far as I am concerned, worrying about extracting an added 10HP (which has relatively little effect on anything other than butt dynos. ) is a pointless waste of time, when, in many cases, something in the chain is usually taking away that much power if the car is not maintained well and/or has daily-driving reliability problems. Or, people swap out for heavier larger wheels for example!

If you can find me a place where I can buy a super-charger or a turbo-charger for my 2003 M45, and ALL the necessary engineering (turbo quality, extra oil cooling, ECU reprogramming, reliability - that was one of the Keuylian failure modes - transmissions beefing, etc.) has been properly taken into account, and the end-result is a gain of AT LEAST 50 HP at the wheels to make it worthwhile, then I will line up in a heart beat to get it (after current economy recovers slightly though - my stock values have dropped recently)!

In the meantime, I will spend my hard-earned money on keeping my car as close to running in perfect stock condition as I can - that gets me more than satisfied enough with my M45's performance! See my "kills" thread for why I say that! And my thread on "overkill" for what I do to make sure that the performance is better than most M45's out there (but still not better than "new" stock though).

Z

Sure, come over to my garage and I'll hook it up - and way cheaper than what you think.

fully reliable, ECU tuned by a professional, UpRev software - cheaper than you think

I'm not a vendor so I don't know if I can say that, but I'm definitely not a business either.