handling better or worse with ca

[14.5drift]

currently with the ka in tight cornering my front tires will slide. Will less weight from ca improve or worsen the situation. I will also be putting the sub in da trunk, and after punching in some rough estimated number my new weight distribution would be 47/53. Would this be good for a canyon runner or autocrosser? I am very concearned with the under steer just tryen ti get this car put together right you know.

[slw240sx]

lighter motor means less friction with the road = more sliding,

if your getting under steer your not driving your car right remember you have rear throttle steering

[GoofyATX240]

It could also be the tires. Plus some other suspension things.

[14.5drift]

check it out. If I am going in a straight line and I turn the car pretty hard, like almost for a U-turn, or a hard 90 degree turn, the front tires are failing to turn in. Basically I was tryen to enduce a drift by crankin the wheel and give it some gas but instead of rear wheel slide, I am getting front wheel slide. I have Fairly new khumo ecsta all round. But a stock suspension. but the way you describe it, seems like a V8 big block could fix my under steer?

[float_6969]

you have to think about more than just turning the wheel. If you want the rear end to come around, load the front tires (brakes), crank the wheel, and then pop the clutch with a little gas. It was designed to understeer cuz it's safer, but it can easyily be made to oversteer if you learn to drive it. Also suspension will help with this.

[14.5drift]

I got an automatic, but after swap it will be 5 speed. After doing some research on the best handling cars (ferrari, porche, lotus) I found they are all 40/60 Front/Rear. Wonder how much of a factor track width/length is? I just want a really good handling car

[float_6969]

You've got one buddy, just ditch that slushbox and you'll be rolling D1 style!!!

[CA19DET]

it could be your front springs/damper is too stiff/strong/hard??

at solodex recently, it made a HUGE difference in turn in and understerr/oversteer when adjusting teh damper of my AGX,

soft front hard rear = over steer hard front, hard rear = understeer, no griphard front, soft rear = understeer more gripsoft front, soft rear = balance & more grip

now mind you the soft setting & eibach prokit is still a bit harder than stock.

and it also depends on your driving style, when you apply brakes, turn in technique etc..

my favourite set up is 2 up front damper setting and 7 in the rear.

with the whiteline swaybars i have controlling understeer and oversteer will help allot, as i will be able to controll body roll a bit and change the weight transfer to the outer wheel vs the inner wheel...

no i am no suspension guru,a nd these were based on my settings, driving conditions were wet too, so that had allot to do with it, if you are smarter than me and can make constructive commenst please correct me!!

[boost_boy]

Hey Ryan,

Why don't you give the guys the part # for the ARP studs or check out the thread that mentions ARP; I know you've seen it, but I don't know where my invoice sheet is. I think my girl sent it back to ARP when we exchanged the nuts for a different set.

[Nathan]

The trick to oversteer with a car that is set to understeer naturally is just to oversteer more than understeer. Start turning in a touch early and get on the gas hard, get the back to slide more than the front and your in business (ok, so this is NOT a good technique for racing or something, but it IS fun).

[14.5drift]

I here that. I dont care so much to spin out or do doughnuts, but I just assumed the backs would slip before the fronts wich makes me look at the car completely different now. Every car I driven that was rear wheel drive responded in a similar manner and this one just threw me for a loop. Now when I am in a hard corner I am concearned that my front tires will break first. Seems to me if the backs break I will have more of a chance for recovery. So this scared me. Not cause I cant do doughnuts, but when I'm driving down the mountain or some thin. Thanks for the info CA19DET I'll look more into this

[Axlerod]

Lighter is *always* better.

Solution: stickier tires.

[Axlerod]

Forgot to add.... more wieght doesnt necessarily mean more friction... it is more of a con because of the added momentum that will cause the car to slide.