Halo 3 Recon

[packerjd04]

Halo 3 Recon was announced tonight and is due to "drop" in fall 2009. Its a prologue to the H3 events and you play as an ODST marine. After watching the video it looks pretty cool but is going to be totally different with no shield, super strength, ect. Either way i am ridiculously excited about it!

check it http://www.bungie.net/News/con...tgame

[sr20deTsomeday118]

omg woot! i was just about to post about this. vid looks sick

[MinisterofDOOM]

So this is DLC for Halo 3? And they're announcing it a year early? Wow...

[packerjd04]

I don't even know if its just DLC or if they would sell it in a box as well? I know november 17th the big xbox live update comes out and included is the ability to install games to your hard drive just like a computer, so with that coming I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was only able for download. Either way a whole new campaign, co-op, and multiplayer sounds good to me!!

[MinisterofDOOM]

The reason I'm guessing it's DLC is because all the references to it say Halo THREE specifically, and not just Halo. Since it's an entirely separate campaign from Halo 3, I assume the use of the full name is because it'll be a download for H3. I could be completely wrong, though.

[marlin29311]

Yay for no more gay little 12 year olds and their damn overshields online!

[sr20deTsomeday118]

Yay for no more gay little 12 year olds and their damn overshields online!

[C-Kwik]

I'm thinking there will be a retail version. It could be offered as DLC as well, but ultimately, they would miss out on potential sales from anyone without a HDD. Of course, I have no idea what that number is so I could be wrong.

[C-Kwik]

Here's some additional info I just ran across:

Quote »Confused about Halo 3: Recon? Apparently some folks still are, so Bungie reps Luke Smith and Brian Jarrard wanted to get a few things out of the way, right off the bat, in our lovely afternoon Q&A session. Halo 3: Recon is not a tactical squad based shooter. Halo 3: Recon is not Splinter Cell: Halo. Halo 3: Recon is not Brothers In Arms: Halo. And there's a very, very good chance you'll never, ever run into Master Chief.

He, and the rest of the familiar Halo cast, won't be popping up for cameos. They're busy "relaxing" on the Delta Halo, saving the world and stuff. So what is Halo 3: Recon?

Halo 3: Recon is a first-person shooter, one that's going to feel very much like a Halo game; if it ain't broke, don't fix it, basically. Instead of playing a super space marine, however, you'll play an Orbital Drop Shock Trooper (ODST), one who's not quite so burly or bad-***.

That means you'll have to pick and choose your battles a bit more carefully than one faceless Spartan would.

Recon is a standalone release, not part of a title update or downloadable content. It will come with new Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore and a new aesthetic. The single player campaign, in which your ODST will clean up a Covenant infested city in New Mombasa, will feature plenty of dark, nighttime play.

That said, Bungie says "We're not viewing this as a full game." How that affects Recon's pricing, however, is still to be decided.

Should gamers view it as Bungie's metaphorical Half-Life: Opposing Force, giving Halo fans an alternate look at the events of previous games or merely a contract obligating Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s?

"I would think of it as our Frozen Throne," Luke Smith told us, pointing to Warcraft III's expansion as the best comparison.

Recon's multiplayer, however, is essentially Halo 3's multiplayer. That means saved films, four-player coop and the map editor Forge will work seamlessly with the expansion. But outside of a new bundle of maps, expect the proven same-old, same-old online play that currently satisfies some 900,000 unique Halo 3 players a day.

And now for the bad news: it appears that there are no plans for a Legendary-style Orbital Drop Shock Trooper helmet that one can trick out their cat with. Shame. What will our nation's retailers clog up their warehouses with, come Fall 2009?[/quote]Source: http://kotaku.com/5061475/what...s-not

[packerjd04]

Ya I read that yesterday on bungie. I know i'll be buying it so im hoping they go with the expansion price of maybe like $30 max $40

[NSR_s30]

Little brother showed me the trailer, looks kinda cool. I'm not really a Halo fan though.

[s13jus10]

And now for the bad news: it appears that there are no plans for a Legendary-style Orbital Drop Shock Trooper helmet that one can trick out their cat with. Shame. What will our nation's retailers clog up their warehouses with, come Fall 2009?

[snwbrdr435]

Bump for firefight awesomeness

[C-Kwik]

Bought it at launch. Played some the evening after. Didn't get to play yesterday, but will again tonight. Its pretty fun. Feels more open worldish as you can decide what objective to go after next. Interesting how it puts you into other characters when you get to objectives. I'll have to wait to see how the story pans out, but its keeping me interested so far.

[Nali]

Bump for firefight awesomeness

Firefight is frikkin awesome, but cuz ive been a major COD player most of my XBL life only like 3 of my friends play Halo, and they are avid Halo fans so i feel embarrassed playing with them, shared lives means my suckage ends up hurting them.

i really wish there was matchmaking, id rather suck with random kids than people who actually know me.

Anyone willing to play some firefight with a Halo noob like me?BLACK STRiDE is my gamertag, make sure to msg me that u are from NICO else i might think you are a random COD4er who wants to 1v1 or recruit me.

[snwbrdr435]

Look for a message from BeatToasted next week when i get back home

[MinisterofDOOM]

http://www.spoonyexperiment.co...conds/

Sums up my thoughts nicely.

$60 is already too much for FULL 360 games. For a <4 hour expansion, it's whorishly unacceptable.

I bought Crysis AND Warhead for $30 (total, not each). Both of those are longer than ODST by a considerable amount. Both are better games, too.

I would love to buy ODST and play it just so I don't have to append my criticisms with "(No, I haven't played it.)" But $60 bucks is too much money for that.

[snwbrdr435]

Rent it?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Huh...didn't even think of that. I haven't rented anything in years.

[snwbrdr435]

Neither have i but thats what one of my friends did.

[C-Kwik]

http://www.spoonyexperiment.co...conds/

Sums up my thoughts nicely.

How so? Since you haven't actually played it. Many of the dynamics are similar to the original Halo, particularly the fact that falling from heights now hurts and your health no longer regenerates. Outside of that, there isn't a whole lot that is the same. Covenant behave pretty much like in Halo 3 though.

$60 is already too much for FULL 360 games. For a <4 hour expansion, it's whorishly unacceptable.

Took me almost 8 hours on Heroic. Its not a less than 4 hour game (took me and the GF nearly 8 hours on Heroic). I'd imagine it would be even harder playing alone. Particularly against Hunters as they aren't that easy to kill alone. Playing in co-op mode, we pretty much forced the Hunters to pick one of us and the other would shoot it in the back. And it still took a while to get the armor off so we could kill it.

Not to mention it includes the Firefight mode. I'd imagine for most people, this alone makes it more valuable to most people than Halo 3 itself.

I bought Crysis AND Warhead for $30 (total, not each). Both of those are longer than ODST by a considerable amount. Both are better games, too.

That was the price at launch?

I would love to buy ODST and play it just so I don't have to append my criticisms with "(No, I haven't played it.)" But $60 bucks is too much money for that.

The value of a game to an individual is purely subjective. I certainly appreciate the aspect of having to drop $60 just to see you'll even like a game, but I think most Halo fans will enjoy it quite a bit (my impression is you are not), mainly due to the Firefight mode. I find it was worth it for this and the fact that I like to play though the Halo campaigns. I've played each campaign at least twice this year.

[MinisterofDOOM]

That was the price at launch?

$50 for Crysis, $40 for Warhead at their respective launches. A few months after Warhead came out, the $30 bundle I bought was released, with both games plus the newly separated multiplayer mode (Crysis Wars) on separate discs.

How so? Since you haven't actually played it.

I don't need to have played it to know that it's an expansion, and that $60 is way too much money for an expansion. If it had sold for 40 bucks I wouldn't have found anything to complain about there. But as I said before, I've always taken issue with the $60 pricetag on console titles (when big-name PC games still sell for as low as $40 brand new), and the fact that that already unacceptably steep price is being slapped on an expansion is hard to swallow.

$60 is just too much. If it was a reasonable price to start with, I could see that being subjective. But that has nothing to do with my taste in the game itself. $60 is simply too much for a videogame. It was too much for Halo 3, too, and too much for every other single 360 title. Even if I LOVED the game...$60 doesn't stop being unreasonable.

[C-Kwik]

$50 for Crysis, $40 for Warhead at their respective launches. A few months after Warhead came out, the $30 bundle I bought was released, with both games plus the newly separated multiplayer mode (Crysis Wars) on separate discs.

Uh-huh...you're comparing a launch price to a bundled non-launch price more than a year after the original version's release? Not to mention the relatively poor sales likely driving the prices down at a fairly quick pace. The correct comparison to make is the $50 launch price for Crysis vs "XYZ" 360 game at launch. Not to mention the tendency to have to try and keep up with gaming technology with PCs. Not something console gamers have to worry about. Which is part of what justifies the cost.

I don't need to have played it to know that it's an expansion, and that $60 is way too much money for an expansion. If it had sold for 40 bucks I wouldn't have found anything to complain about there. But as I said before, I've always taken issue with the $60 pricetag on console titles (when big-name PC games still sell for as low as $40 brand new), and the fact that that already unacceptably steep price is being slapped on an expansion is hard to swallow.

My point here is that you seem to think this simply because its considered an expansion. Outside of the storyline being dependent on Halo 3, the actual game content is enough to be its own game. This doesn't change your opinion of console game prices but it is on par with standalone games. Unless you actually play the game, you're not going to realize this fully. Your indication that this game is less than 4 hours is very telling of how incorrect your preconceptions are.

$60 is just too much. If it was a reasonable price to start with, I could see that being subjective. But that has nothing to do with my taste in the game itself. $60 is simply too much for a videogame. It was too much for Halo 3, too, and too much for every other single 360 title. Even if I LOVED the game...$60 doesn't stop being unreasonable.

Millions of 360 owners disagree with you. On the other hand, millions of people agree with you. Some might even consider any money spent on games or consoles to be a waste of money. Its subjective regardless of the cost. YOU think its unreasonable. The only fact is that there are differing views on this. And as its not something that can be proven as absolute using scientific methods, it cannot be objective fact.

That said, my beef isn't that you think the price of 360 games are too high (in general). It is subjective so I'm not going to tell you its not as its your opinion and you are most certainly welcome to it. Afterall, noone is forcing you to buy the game. My argument is that its not just a few extra levels of play as with many PC expansions. Ultimately, if you were willing to wait for Crysis, you can most certainly wait to get this as well. Especially since the campaign and Firefight modes aren't going to change and the multiplayer expereience is still the same.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Actually, the only reason I waited to get Crysis was that I didn't have a rig that could run it.

But yeah, I'll probably wait for the price on ODST to drop. Thanks to Gamestop, though, used game prices suck, too.

[snwbrdr435]

Mod, i already traded odst in lol

[marlin29311]

Mod, i already traded odst in lol

You did? I thinking about finding one used at gamestop and "renting" it for 14 days and then just returning for the credit towards MW2 or something...

[snwbrdr435]

I would do that way to go or rent it at blockbuster for a couple bucks