Just throwing this out as a warning about Haldeman Nissan in Hamilton NJ:
Haldeman Nissan has "free oil changes for the life of the car". So I go in for 2nd oil change today (15,000 according to schedule 2 which is mostly highway driving - which is what I USED to do - car is 6 months old so every 3 months should be fine). They told me I could only get the free oil change IF I did EVERYTHING that is recommended on the schedule for 15,000. Which is $149 microfilter. So essentially they are willing to do the oil change for free ONLY if I agree to do the other things they deem as required. The first time I did the oil change, only thing required was an oil change, so they did it for free. So yeah - like I said $149? No that's alright thank you.
My point is that they lost all goodwill they had with their "free oil changes for the life of the car" thing. From a customer service standpoint - if they just did the free oil changes, they stay in my good graces so that if something DOES go wrong, I might look at them in a good way and bring the car there. BUT - by pissing my off JUST THIS ONCE - I now look at them as con artists only doing it just to get me to buy other expensive yet unnecessary services.
I just watched the video on how to change the in cabin microfilter and I am confident I can do that myself.
Also someone asked me if I'd void my warranty by not changing the microfilter after 6 months. What say all of you? I think it's not likely, and kind of silly.
--*Rob
Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
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kc5f
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Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
Yes, it's quite easy to change the in-cabin filter. I had a similar deal with free oil changes from the dealer where I bought my car, but they're about 40 miles from my house. I did have the normal maintenance done, but one time I took it to another dealer 3 miles from my house and paid for it to save time. The next (and final) time I went back to my purchase dealer they told me I'd voided their agreement because they hadn't performed the previous service. I'm sure they would have also nixed the free changes if I'd changed the filter, so we're probably both better off no longer having "free" oil changes!
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iluvmyVersa08
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Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
It is incredibly easy to change the in-cabin air filter. I even did it myself. It just requires taking out a few screws and then removing the old filter, and popping in the new one.
I also change the oil at home too. Once my free ones were up (I got 5 free oil changes), I simply now buy the filter from the dealership, whatever oil is on sale, and change it at home. I just keep all my receipts, record the mileage, and save myself a ton of money by avoid the dealership.
I also change the oil at home too. Once my free ones were up (I got 5 free oil changes), I simply now buy the filter from the dealership, whatever oil is on sale, and change it at home. I just keep all my receipts, record the mileage, and save myself a ton of money by avoid the dealership.
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That's one of my concerns relating to my new Versa. I too have 2 years free "maintenance oil changes" with the dealer but reading your post this comes to light. It seems that they want you to do all the stuff written in the Maintenance schedule with them and charge the inflated dealer fees..
Do all manufacturers today ask you to keep these services to the "t" so you wouldn't loose the warranty if needed? I mean, oil changes and filters I understand but if they find any small issue when you visit for the oil changes I'm concern they will demand you get that "repaired" or your warranty is in peril? -
Do all manufacturers today ask you to keep these services to the "t" so you wouldn't loose the warranty if needed? I mean, oil changes and filters I understand but if they find any small issue when you visit for the oil changes I'm concern they will demand you get that "repaired" or your warranty is in peril? -
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Bubs daddy
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Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
The maintenance required for todays cars is not much for the first 50,000 miles. Oil changes, tire rotation, the occasional air filter, casual inspections, and top off fluid levels.
Check the tire pressure every other week, more if you want.
Many dealers will make up their own maintenance schedule that is more frequent than the factory intervals because of what you stated-they want to make more money. But the schedule in the owner's manual is all you need to consult.
Check the tire pressure every other week, more if you want.
Many dealers will make up their own maintenance schedule that is more frequent than the factory intervals because of what you stated-they want to make more money. But the schedule in the owner's manual is all you need to consult.
Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
BTW Walmart now carries our Cabin Filters so does Napa
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BlackMetal
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Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
I do know of Haldeman and can say I`m not surprised at all... I even heard first hand how a brand new mustang lost an engine after it was service by their Ford department for having no oil after the service... wow...
anyway, no dealer touches any of my vehicles unless it is a failure or defect or recall, that`s it... I may throw them a bone to do gear fluid changes to make them feel warm and fuzzy.
Your warranty can not be voided if you perform any service yourself as long as the failure is not related to your work...
and with the information out in the internet there have been a ton of issues regarding nissan`s...
I keep a maintenance log of both nissan`s, and I will argue to the end of any failure resulting from my DIY work...
anyway, no dealer touches any of my vehicles unless it is a failure or defect or recall, that`s it... I may throw them a bone to do gear fluid changes to make them feel warm and fuzzy.
Your warranty can not be voided if you perform any service yourself as long as the failure is not related to your work...
and with the information out in the internet there have been a ton of issues regarding nissan`s...
I keep a maintenance log of both nissan`s, and I will argue to the end of any failure resulting from my DIY work...
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Bubs daddy
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Re: Haldeman Nissan Warning Microfilter
Dealers no longer can get much of a profit on new car sales, especially entry level cars like the Versa. It's a cut throat, internet world where every knows the invoice cost.
Dealers look to make more money on the back end of the deal instead of the front. This would include:
extended warranties (which I don't recommend at the time of purchase, consider it after the manufacturers warranty is up)
pre installed items ("weather package," window tinting, pinstriping, other low cost/high sell items)
window etching (don't waste your money)
alarms and trackers (low cost/high sell)
pre paid maintenance plans (usually the dealer requires more service intervals than what's required in the owners manual)
GAP insurance
credit life insurance
Financing (example: You pay 7.0%, bank buys the note for 5.5%, dealer gets 1.5%. Unless you qualify for 0% or some low rate, I'd recommend your own bank or credit union)
Oh and the "doc fee" of anywhere between $50 and $400. It sure doesn't cost that much to process your documents, guaranteed.
Dealers need to make a profit to stay in business. This is understood. That doesn't mean people have to pay for items you don't need. These are all negotiable if one chooses to purchase back end items. In many cases, if you really feel you need any of these, buying after the purchase is far more inexpensive.
Up front, don't pay for any pre installed items such as alarms, pinstriping, "weather packaging" and such. You didn't ask for them to be installed and tell the dealer you won't pay for it or negotiate a lower price if you do want them.
Dealers look to make more money on the back end of the deal instead of the front. This would include:
extended warranties (which I don't recommend at the time of purchase, consider it after the manufacturers warranty is up)
pre installed items ("weather package," window tinting, pinstriping, other low cost/high sell items)
window etching (don't waste your money)
alarms and trackers (low cost/high sell)
pre paid maintenance plans (usually the dealer requires more service intervals than what's required in the owners manual)
GAP insurance
credit life insurance
Financing (example: You pay 7.0%, bank buys the note for 5.5%, dealer gets 1.5%. Unless you qualify for 0% or some low rate, I'd recommend your own bank or credit union)
Oh and the "doc fee" of anywhere between $50 and $400. It sure doesn't cost that much to process your documents, guaranteed.
Dealers need to make a profit to stay in business. This is understood. That doesn't mean people have to pay for items you don't need. These are all negotiable if one chooses to purchase back end items. In many cases, if you really feel you need any of these, buying after the purchase is far more inexpensive.
Up front, don't pay for any pre installed items such as alarms, pinstriping, "weather packaging" and such. You didn't ask for them to be installed and tell the dealer you won't pay for it or negotiate a lower price if you do want them.