GTR project car need help

[anarchyb52]

hi im working on a M30 project car converting it to a state legal GTR i know weird right.

but bear with me if im right you can convert a infiniti M30 into a r32 skyline with some work...well alot of work...

so if some one has a R32 skyline can you measure some things for me

i need

width of door at widest pointwidth of door at the bottomwidth of door at topwidth of top door windowwheel center to wheel centerinner rear fender to inner front fenderouter rear fender to outer front fenderlength of roofwidth of roofwidth of body via the underside of the doorswidth and length of trunk...wheel baseride hight (stock)width and length of hood

Im talking full conversion...im prolly even going to make it right side drive....

the beauty of this is a skyline for about 10 grand and it will be state legal since it will still be titled as an M30....i live in indiana so i dont have to worry about emissions testing since all we have to have is a cat and some form of exhaust system:)

so if you can get me those measurements much thanks

O and pics would be great to.....especially body shots from all sorts of angles

[Encryptshun]

What made you decide to do this project if you don't have any of this information already? Plus, you have the money to do this and yet you come ask the questions on a free forum? Do some research.

And post pics of the car and your design drawings or I call BS.

[StevieRaySTL]

No way, not for 10 grand, no how, just your engine swap will get you in that 'hood. Plus that thing will be a frankenstein, I smell that too Encryptshun, haha. If you do do it, post up some pics, GL!

[Encryptshun]

Hey Stevie... you never did tell me where the quote in your sig came from. I'm interested.

[StevieRaySTL]

It's a Warren Zevon song, same guy that did Wherewolves of London. It was was also the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson's favorite song, and he's one of my favorite authors. If you're into reading check out his stuff, he was an automobile & motorcycle buff, a real monster of a man. He and Warren were good friends, they will both be missed. Plus, I think it sounds badass. Have a good one.

[anarchyb52]

yeah thompson is a beast i have the gonzo fist as a tattoo and im working for the newspaper in addition to my full time job...but thats besides the point

and yes i said 10 grandfound a front clip for 4,500 a rear clip for 2000and i got a m30 lined up for 900 bucksso thats....7400not to shabby huh?

and that will give me all i need

i have the body experience...i just dont have all the specs....

after further research i have found that the mounts will technically work....depending on steering clearance...i might be forced into converting the car to rsd but it wouldnt be a total loss....the car already has the hole in the firewall for the whole steering column.... and the front clip comes with all that....

the suspension is quite similar and should bolt up...might require some rigging but nothing im not use to.

the big concern i have isnt anything mechanical

its body work that concerns me....

the rear corterpanel looks bigger on the m30 and i want to swap them out...and im not to sure yet about the exact specs...hence why im asking

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[Stealth-Z]

Since you have the body work experience, you should be the one taking the measurements. Take a road trip to a car show or Canada. Ask if someone will let you crawl around and take measurements.

[anarchyb52]

really wish i had the time...i work all the time and i cant take a day off to save my life..but thats besides the point...

if someone around the indy or chicago area would let me then hell yeah im game to drive up and do some measuring

the only thing im kinda worried about are the body lines of the skyline...cause i might have to buy skyline doors to make them match up.. and the quarter panels lining up right but we will fanagal it

[Gold Digger]

So, you are going to take a Nissan Leopard coupe (sorry, M30) and convert it to a GT-R. Ok, you are talking switching all the front and rear subframe components, making sure the drivetrain will work from front to rear, and making this AWD? Sounds like one helluva project.

Interesting idea, and would like to see a write up on the whole process with pics.

But, one thing. You say you are too busy because you work all the time, yet you are going to do this project? Prolly gonna consume a lot of your off time, isn't it?

Anyway, man, best of luck to ya. It's gonna be a pretty interesting project to say the least.

[anarchyb52]

well im not "too busy" at work i just work really weird hours...so it makes it hard to do anything in the normal hours of the day 7am-9pm since im either working or sleeping during those hours but i have a full garage plus plenty of tools for the task at hand...

i think its a do able project and should be on the fairly cheap considering im doing all the work and my time is cheap lol....well not really but i have nothing better to do....

i plan on doing a full write up so others can do the conversion as well...its just going to take sometime to get funds around.

the car should look alot like a r32 except ive noticed the rear window is almost flat and not beveled like the r32....and thats a whole different level of conversion i dont want to do....not to mention finding the glass for it when the conversion is done...so im going to leave it flat...no big deal...if anything it will be kind of like a signature only my gtr has....

im going to see if i can leave it right side drive as well with minimal effort....im going to convert it to left otherwise...im going to have everything i need in my front clip...

i might have to find skyline doors or door skins to match up the bodylines....but thats minimal effort...

the hardest part of the bodywork are the quarter panels...but i can do them with relatively easy body work which ive done before....

and btw C33 thank you for being positive about my conversion it makes me feel slightly better to see somebody support the idea of it possibly working instead of just say it wont work

positive ideas are welcome

[Stealth-Z]

There was an M30 I would drive by every day in my neighborhood. Everytime I drove past it I thought of how it would look with R32 body panels. Eventually it was towed away due to lack of current registration. Plus I have to many projects as it is.

Personally I believe what you are thinking of is possible. I found a few photos online and did a quick photo chop for comparison. Not very accurate but it kind of gives an indication of some of the differences. I think there is about a 3 inch difference in the lower rocker panel to the roof heights.

[StevieRaySTL]

im going to see if i can leave it right side drive as well with minimal effort....im going to convert it to left otherwise...im going to have everything i need in my front clip...

Did you mean it the other way around? It's Ok I am also dyslexic, mostly when I'm drunk.

[Death By Thrash Metal]

if you already have the car i think for 10k you could buy a r32 gtst and just swap out all the ****... i mean that would be easier than guesstimating it as you are...Besides if you really want a skyline look alike go get a rice car and buy the kit... or just get a silvia engine swap it and get a nice body kit... what i want to do simply bcuz some of the s15 kits look nicer than skylines.hell if you really wanted it to be a skyline you could swap the whole front clips, not that that would be easy but if you got a metal shop, or a lot of welding supplies id say its doable, just need to measure 1000x cut 1x then add some chassis reinforcing steel....but why not actually buy a r3x, this car obviously wont be a daily driver and will end up being a show car, so why not buy a gtst and register it as a show/track car?

[anarchyb52]

i have been looking around at other options...though this is still in my top 3

stealth is right about some difs

the height is mainly due to the coil overs since its only 1 inch dif

the length is obviously dif but the m30 has some honking nasty bumpers

the width is more then likely due to the wide kit on all r32's

reason for doing

1- only one ever2- only Left side drive r32 ever..as far as i know3- not that expensive4- i can do it

i've done the research and im not guessing anymore...it can be done but there will be visable difs like the rear glass and the C piller

but that can be a signature

my other options are

240sx s13 rb25 swap i like this onerx7 roto BEAST (FC) there is one here local for 500 with a blown motor and i have a friend who just got a 90 stock turbo 2 motor and is not using it( he is going V8 instead)and of corse M30 insanity

the FC is the easiest since it just bolts up and def the cheapest

but i dont want CHEAP

i want good but affordable.....FCs are nice

but man a SeXy rb powered S13 oooooo

im looking around basicly but ive done all the research on all 3 and after street porting the FC and what not it ends up at about 6 grand the 240 about 8 and the M30 about 9

since all 3 cars are siting local and cheap 500-1200 bucks each

i have 10 g's im going to spend and just calcing the best bang for my buck....not to mention head turning abilities

[ca18datsun510]

put down the crack pipe.

[themadscientist]

the two cars share absolutely nothing, You could not pick a worse candidate.It would be like turning thunderbird into a mustang except harder and yet even lamer. Now the RB can be put into the M30

[ca18datsun510]

i own an m30 and he doesnt believe me, i doubt her gonna believe you even though you own an r32.

[StevieRaySTL]

Said it before, no way not for 10grand, you'll be lucky to get out under 20. "Signature"= it will look weird. It won't be first left drive r32 ever, it will ALWAYS be an f31. Get the M, spend that dough making it look fly, lower it, drop an SR or an RB in it, if your able to fab, work a nice body kit onto it. Paint it and get some 'ol school rims too, that would be waaaay more fresh, IMO. I used to pass an M on the way to work, and that's what I wanted to do with it. Please don't ruin an otherwise great piece of Nissan/Infin. hisrtory by making it look like a Fast & Furious wannabe.

[audtatious]

With enough time, patience and skills, you can do anything.

Hell, look at Monster Garage, they turned a fire truck into a distillery

[Encryptshun]

With enough time, patience and skills, you can do anything.

Hell, look at Monster Garage, they turned a fire truck into a distillery

Meh. The Irish have been doing that for a century.

[Gold Digger]

Ok gang, here's my take on it.

Do I like the idea; somewhat.

Will it be original; yes.

Let this guy try and see if he can do it. Hell, maybe in 2, 3, or even 5 years, we might see this car on the cover of a mag.

If not, then we can flame him all we want, but until then, give the guy his due and at least let him try.

We pride ourselves, NICO, on being cutting edge, original, and downwright daring. Who are we to stand in the way of a guy that wants to blow an easy $15k on a car he wants to do.

Back off and let him give it a shot, all he has to lose is money.

[StevieRaySTL]

With enough time, patience and skills, you can do anything.

I totally agree, but there's good ideas and bad ideas. To me, this one falls into the latter. I say either spend the money on a real Skyline, or customize and RB the M30, again I'd go with the latter, maybe in a 'vert. That to me would be pure car sex, better than an f31\r31\r32 mashup, wouldn't you agree?

[StevieRaySTL]

Let this guy try and see if he can do it. Hell, maybe in 2, 3, or even 5 years, we might see this car on the cover of a mag.

If not, then we can flame him all we want, but until then, give the guy his due and at least let him try.

We pride ourselves, NICO, on being cutting edge, original, and downwright daring. Who are we to stand in the way of a guy that wants to blow an easy $15k on a car he wants to do.

Back off and let him give it a shot, all he has to lose is money.

Haha...Sorry you are right, I will stop lending him style pointers, but you even flamed him a LITTLE. I am in no way trying to stand in his way, I have just been interested in this since I seen his orig. post asking for all those obscure measurements. We'll see how he does, best of luck to you, please keep us updated. Thanx.

[anarchyb52]

i got all the measurements thank you for NOT helping....

it was easier for me to just call nissan here in town and since i know a kid who works there he hooked me up with the whole shop manual lol from the factory so i had blue prints in front of me.

the skyline one was harder to come by but i got it...all in metric though

and the specs are the same IT EVEN HAS THE CROSS MEMBER BOLT HOLES for the R32 cross member

radiator support is different other then that. same engine bay

[StevieRaySTL]

i got all the measurements thank you for NOT helping....

it was easier for me to just call nissan here in town and since i know a kid who works there he hooked me up with the whole shop manual lol from the factory so i had blue prints in front of me.

IMO I did help (see above). Prolly should have talked to your buddy at Nissan first, and then posted some write ups, drawings, or pics, then instead of everyone flaming you, they would praise you. Let's see some PROOF, oh yeah, it's pretty obvious that the skyline's specs are in metric, it's JDM. So here's more help. http://www.onlineconversion.com/ You're Welcome.

[ca18datsun510]

you are talking out your ***.

they are not the same.