Grounding Wire Interest List

[Sentientbydesign]

I've been making performance grounding kits for the G35 coupe and 350Z. G35 Sedan and Altima Coupe are in the design phase.

I want to find out if any of the other NICO members wanted grounding wires for their cars.

The basic benefits are:

Smoother, faster shifts in the automatic (IIRC, the 4th gen Max/I30 downshifted properly when rolling to a stop with a grounding kit)

Engines spool up faster

Better Power and Fuel Efficiency

Cleaner, louder, audio

The link in my sig has more information.

If anybody is interested, let me know. If you have questions or disbelief, I'm happy to answer or comment.

[DaveVQ]

I need to replace the kit I made

Sure why not I'm in for one

[johnnyd6404]

If you can make one for a 2k2 max I'd buy and test it out for you let us know when you make one for our cars!

[Sentientbydesign]

Cool!

I just need to get a hold of a few Maximas. Kinda wish the family had one. I sold my I30 before I started making these kits or I would have already done one for the 4th gens.

My dad has 3 nissans, but two are frontiers and one is an altima sedan

[johnnyd6404]

I'll be waiting, soon as you get one made hit me up. I almost bought this one http://www.courtesyparts.com/M...D-A33

But I'll wait till you make one

[Sentientbydesign]

Quote »The PVC jacket is then covered with a braided Chrome Mylar sleeving to create a fantastic look that will last under the hood, and the lustrous Chrome Mylar sleeving ensures a long lasting brilliant finish that won't fade and turn yellow like other ordinary clear/silver ground wires. Mylar has a maximum service temperature of 105?C (302?F) so you don't have to worry how it will hold up under extreme driving conditions. [/quote]Fantastic huh? The first thing I thought was hideous

105C =221F. Where are they getting this 302 business? Even if they reversed the forumula and added they did (105+32)*1.8 instead of the correct way 105*1.8+32, they'd still end up with 246F

I think I'll call them hehehe. They also enabled Java script to disable right clicks...That's what keyboards are for hehehe.

My kit will probably be more extensive and/or less expensive.

Any 5 and 5.5 gens wanna participate in testing (you must live in within 30 miles of me). I'll give you guys a great discount for your participation.

[johnnyd6404]

You get any made yet? I didn't forget and I'm still interested. Let me know.

[G4nismo]

I've been making performance grounding kits for the G35 coupe and 350Z. G35 Sedan and Altima Coupe are in the design phase.

I want to find out if any of the other NICO members wanted grounding wires for their cars.

The basic benefits are:

Smoother, faster shifts in the automatic (IIRC, the 4th gen Max/I30 downshifted properly when rolling to a stop with a grounding kit)

Engines spool up faster

Better Power and Fuel Efficiency

Cleaner, louder, audio

The link in my sig has more information.

If anybody is interested, let me know. If you have questions or disbelief, I'm happy to answer or comment.

i've had a grounding kit installed for a couple years now. never really noticed any difference. i could understand the cleaner, louder, audio but some of you other claims sound bogus.

how the hell would a grounding kit provide smoother, faster shifts for an auto? the shiftings are controlled by the TCM, which provides 12 volts to one, both, or neither of the two solenoids. interrupting the signal from the TCU to the transmission and manually controlling the signals provide crisper, faster shifts. a drop resistor mod also provides better shifting reaction and a better, high stall TC would help as well.

engine spools up faster? another bogus claim. how would providing better grounding allow the engine to spool up faster? just get a lighter flywheel. id say thats all in your head.

[Sentientbydesign]

Hi G4,

Before I address any of your concerns, please keep the discussion civil. I've already dealt with enough garbage in the Altima forum. I don't want to receive it here (As a member, staff, or sponsor).

I won't address the audio because you already conceded to that.

As for the Transmission. I'd like to say that's the way it is and leave it at that, but I won't.

The TCM is directly related to the TPS and likely gets a few cues from the ECU. Nissan autos are notorious for downshifting slowly and the ones in the Gs don't shift fast enough in DS mode.

Adding the grounding wires provides a clean signal and impedence free path for sensors and other electronics. One of the mods that I seriously contemplated on my 4th gen I30 (when I still had it) was a grounding kit. I never got around to it, but after doing a lot of research on the subject I realize how the wires can benefit.

Engine Spooling:

I have two accounts of the same situation happening in two G35 coupes. 1 auto. 1 manual. In both situations, the engine spooled up much faster. Beancooker has a kit on his auto G. He claimed that the engine spooled so fast on his initial test drive (with the kit) that he pegged the redline before shifting in DS mode. I didn't quite understand, but he basically said that he knows how fast his engine usually takes to get to redline and has the timing memorized so he shifts before then. After installing the kit, the engine spooled up much faster and surprised him before he shifted.

I also experienced the same thing in my manual G. Driving tame showed very little difference, but pushing the car made it a completely different experience. I actually contemplated selling the car because it didn't have the go factor I wanted. Resetting my ECU and throttle release learning helped a little, the wire were the second mod that made me really want to keep my car (exhaust is up next).

My only theory regarding why the engine spools up faster is because of signal clarity. There are tons of sensors under the hood. If the voltage flutuates because of impedence, then the sensor data is now off. The grounding wires must be providing cleaner signals and optimizing the electric-dependent systems.

[killakarebear]

Im interested. I just wanted to know about how much would you be selling it for(91 maxima)?

[Levissan]

Okay im eager to learn here. I am very knowledgeable in SPL competition as well as in the area of auto mechanics. Now I know what excessive ground upgrading does for a car as well the audio system, but I guess my question is where do you get the extra amp power from the car to increase the grd flow to where ever you are grounding? I think it is amazing that it effects the transmission shifting but how does the ground effect the "spooling" of the engine? I am new to these engines. So I am curious to learn how the increased ground helps the syntrfical momentum of the engines internals. Thanks,

Jesse

[johnnyd6404]

Im interested. I just wanted to know about how much would you be selling it for(91 maxima)?

Oh no 5.5 gen first

[Sentientbydesign]

Oh no 5.5 gen first

Hahaha. This is too funny. I've got to do some measurements and testing first before I can give accurate pricing.

The 3rd and 4th gens will probably only have 5 or 6 wires at most (I could be wrong, but I don't remember many sensors under the hood).

The 5th and 5.5 gen will probably comparable in price to the G/Z kits (see the link in my signature). Though I doubt there will be more than just a basic kit for these which will be all inclusive.

Is that enough info for the moment? If there are any 3rd, 4th, or 5th/5.5 near me that want to participate in measuring/testing, I will give you a nice discount on a kit.

[Sentientbydesign]

I need test vehicles for grounding kits.

The G35, FX35, and 350Z kits are all basically done. I'm doing the final design on the Altima kits and I have people asking me for Maxima kits, but I don't have test vehicles.

Here's what you get as a tester:

Pride of owning one of the first ground wire kits for your model designed by yours truly.Heavily discounted price (I'm not a huge business who can give these kits away like candy, so the discount is what I have to offer.)

I have had nothing but positive feedback from all of my customers so far. Most of them were extremely surprised at the quality of the cables I put together and they were all happpy tha their cars ran smoother with better throttle response, faster revving engines, cleaner/louder audio, and some had their headlight issues go away.

I know the 4th auto guys will benefit from getting rid of that annoying 2-1, 3-1 downshift issue at stop signs and will probably get more responsiveness when passing on the freeway.

The newer gens will likely see improvements in throttle response (a huge issue early 3.5Ls), possibly lower idles, faster revving engines...etc.

I only need one of each gen.

[SVTCOBRA]

Nate's wires have been getting rave reviews over on the G35 side of the house!!!

I'll be getting a set for the coupe as soon as the cobra sells.

Daughter's 00 Max SE AT would make a great test subject!

Come to NC and I'll feed you some BBQ and beers!!!

[Sentientbydesign]

Nate's wires have been getting rave reviews over on the G35 side of the house!!!

I'll be getting a set for the coupe as soon as the cobra sells.

Daughter's 00 Max SE AT would make a great test subject!

Come to NC and I'll feed you some BBQ and beers!!!

You have no idea how nice that sounds, Rich. You're one of a few people on here that I'd really like to meet in person.

Unfortunately the finances are just barely starting to get better. I can't afford a cross country trip Maybe next year for one of the Nico meets or something.

How did you find this thread btw?

[SVTCOBRA]

I try to get by the max & pathy forums since we've owned them in the past. Also, daughter does have a 00max and I am her personal mechanic you know.

[Sentientbydesign]

That makes sense.

Ok, so is anybody interested in testing? There's really only something to gain and very little to lose.

It won't void your warranty, and you'll be kicking yourself asking "Why didn't I jump on this sooner?"

[killakarebear]

Im in to test the 3rd gen kit.

[Sentientbydesign]

I need somebody in SoCal. Measuring and finding good grounding points is 80% of the testing.

[Mark*]

Got a 1995 Maxima SE. Could you use that for a test platform for your grounding kit ?As a matter of fact have a starting probem relating to the neutral position switch not making good contact. Get a 10-3 0n the diagnostic code.Maybe a better ground would help. Connectors ck out.

[Sentientbydesign]

Got a 1995 Maxima SE. Could you use that for a test platform for your grounding kit ?As a matter of fact have a starting probem relating to the neutral position switch not making good contact. Get a 10-3 0n the diagnostic code.Maybe a better ground would help. Connectors ck out.

Again, the problem is location. I'm in California. I need a car that I can actually look at, touch, play with. I'm kind of annoyed that I didn't measure out my 96 I30 before I sold it. That would be 1 gen down