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My worst investment is this whole f*cking car and this pos ca.. sorry i need to vent ive already spend about as much as needed for a damn sr on this ca and im not getting anywhere.. so im just gonna think about it for the next few months and decide whether to even bother anymore or just look for another project s13 and take a shotgun to this one.. i swear this car is cursed ... oh and my advice to anyone looking into a engine swap is buy a good clip from a reliable source dont trust any ebay crap.. itll be worth it in the end just cuz its cheap doesnt make it a bargain... like that saying goes .."you can shine a piece of **** up.. but its still a piece of ****".. damn i feel better.. and sorry for cursing


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Well it sounds like it's not the engine you chose but the supplier that caused the trouble. I haven't followed you troubles in the threads can you give me a quick summary of what's keeping the car in the garage? I'll help if I can.

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Give us a little info and lets see if we can get this baby rollin...

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ive replaced alot of stuff on it.. when i first got it i replaced the water pump and timing belt.. i didnt have the knock sensor hooked up and blow the turbo cuz it was running too rich.. so i connected the knock sensor and rechecked the timing and got another turbo now .. then it was overheating.. so i replaced the head gasket with a tomei .. flushed the system and got another radiator and got a used turbo from t88lexus which is working wonderfully.. but the car is still overheating.. i replaced cap ive installed better electric fans.. but the radiator was for a sr.. so the upper radiator hose is rigged to reach the engine.. well i removed the thermostat and put a new one.. still overheats when u take it out on the road.. so i removed it.. and now it gets up to 3/4 and cools back to normal as long as im on the highway.. but if i come to a stop it starts slowly getting hot.. so i think i need to get either the proper radiator and put the shroud back in and fan.. or get a bigger radiator and twin flex-lite fans.. so ive got the problem solved but need more cash ... but heres the other problem.. the car has trouble starting up sometimes.. but once its on itll idle normal.. but sometimes itll just die.. and i cant it to start back up again.. it seems like it gets flooded.. but then again i think my stock crap fuel pump may not be giving enough fuel wnd gets air bubbles or its just giving out.. so im gonna save up and get a fuel pump now and go from there.. so should i get a wahlboro or just get one of a tt 300zx? and ive replaced the plugs again.. i think i bought the wrong ones last time.. but now i got some for a 200sx ca18et.. exhaust side.. but still acting strange.. and my ignition system is throwing spark.. but i think i need a better altenator.. the electric system seems weak and u can hear a electric noise via the speakers... heh.. i feel better today.. just got a lil agitated last night.. i just miss my car im tired of bumming rides heh

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damn. it sounds like you at least got your car to run halfway decent at one point. my car on the other hand has always run like complete **** and for the life of my i can't figure it out. now i can't even work on it for a while now because its currently buried under 2 feet of snow.. and i mean literally. snow is up to the hood and then the snow on top of the car... oi.. I hope she survives the winter.

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Twiztid_S13 wrote:ive replaced alot of stuff on it.. when i first got it i replaced the water pump and timing belt.. i didnt have the knock sensor hooked up and blow the turbo cuz it was running too rich.. so i connected the knock sensor and rechecked the timing and got another turbo now .. then it was overheating.. so i replaced the head gasket with a tomei .. flushed the system and got another radiator and got a used turbo from t88lexus which is working wonderfully.. but the car is still overheating.. i replaced cap ive installed better electric fans.. but the radiator was for a sr.. so the upper radiator hose is rigged to reach the engine.. well i removed the thermostat and put a new one.. still overheats when u take it out on the road.. so i removed it.. and now it gets up to 3/4 and cools back to normal as long as im on the highway.. but if i come to a stop it starts slowly getting hot.. so i think i need to get either the proper radiator and put the shroud back in and fan.. or get a bigger radiator and twin flex-lite fans.. so ive got the problem solved but need more cash ... but heres the other problem.. the car has trouble starting up sometimes.. but once its on itll idle normal.. but sometimes itll just die.. and i cant it to start back up again.. it seems like it gets flooded.. but then again i think my stock crap fuel pump may not be giving enough fuel wnd gets air bubbles or its just giving out.. so im gonna save up and get a fuel pump now and go from there.. so should i get a wahlboro or just get one of a tt 300zx? and ive replaced the plugs again.. i think i bought the wrong ones last time.. but now i got some for a 200sx ca18et.. exhaust side.. but still acting strange.. and my ignition system is throwing spark.. but i think i need a better altenator.. the electric system seems weak and u can hear a electric noise via the speakers... heh.. i feel better today.. just got a lil agitated last night.. i just miss my car im tired of bumming rides heh
sound like you have a bad fan clutch for your overheating problem ,thats if you are using the stock fan

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If u get a clutch fan, DONT get one from discount. They r the biggest piece of ****.

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nah.. since ive done the swap ive used an electric fan.. it covers a good area of the radiator but not the corners.. i touch the radiator when temps are up and the area it covers is cold.. but the corners stay warm.. not hot tho.. i dont have the money for a nice koyo yet.. so i was gonna try using a radiator i have from god knows what ive got thrown in my garage.. its twice as thick and same width and height and outlets on the correct side.. dunno.. but im hoping its just my fuel pump that is crap and not anything with my ignition

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are you sure your electric fan is blowing air towards the motor and not blowing air towards the radiator???

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Twiztid_S13 wrote:ive replaced alot of stuff on it.. when i first got it i replaced the water pump and timing belt.. i didnt have the knock sensor hooked up and blow the turbo cuz it was running too rich.. so i connected the knock sensor and rechecked the timing and got another turbo now .. then it was overheating.. so i replaced the head gasket with a tomei .. flushed the system and got another radiator and got a used turbo from t88lexus which is working wonderfully.. but the car is still overheating.. i replaced cap ive installed better electric fans.. but the radiator was for a sr.. so the upper radiator hose is rigged to reach the engine.. well i removed the thermostat and put a new one.. still overheats when u take it out on the road.. so i removed it.. and now it gets up to 3/4 and cools back to normal as long as im on the highway.. but if i come to a stop it starts slowly getting hot.. so i think i need to get either the proper radiator and put the shroud back in and fan.. or get a bigger radiator and twin flex-lite fans.. so ive got the problem solved but need more cash ... but heres the other problem.. the car has trouble starting up sometimes.. but once its on itll idle normal.. but sometimes itll just die.. and i cant it to start back up again.. it seems like it gets flooded.. but then again i think my stock crap fuel pump may not be giving enough fuel wnd gets air bubbles or its just giving out.. so im gonna save up and get a fuel pump now and go from there.. so should i get a wahlboro or just get one of a tt 300zx? and ive replaced the plugs again.. i think i bought the wrong ones last time.. but now i got some for a 200sx ca18et.. exhaust side.. but still acting strange.. and my ignition system is throwing spark.. but i think i need a better altenator.. the electric system seems weak and u can hear a electric noise via the speakers... heh.. i feel better today.. just got a lil agitated last night.. i just miss my car im tired of bumming rides heh
you didnt blow a turbo cause it ran rich you blew a turbo cause its 14+ years old and from a junkyard...

you sure you got the timming right at the gears and pulley when doin the belt??

also your overheating so you replaced a headgasket? making way to much work for yourself.

it does sound like your fans are pushing instead of pulling! you sure you wired them up correctly for the placement your using on the RAD? i know my fan if you hook up the power wires backwards it becomes a pusher fan.

do you have all the engine grounds hooked up? battery tray, firewall? make a few new ones just to be sound...

sounds like a bad coilpack ign chip. or bad wiring and grounding!

take the alt out and have it tested most parts stored do it for free, if its bad have it rebuilt or attempt at making a SOHC ka one fit.

overall i think your just running into most the problemns all of us have had, some of us got past it, some including my self never got the car running properly , now it still sitts half finished at the shop im "working" at .


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excellent points!

these are problems alot of us have had, but it seems like you went about it all wrong. when I was overheating, I went out and got a bigger radiator, not a $300 headgasket! it also sounds like your radiator is a ghetto rigged SR one, which would be another reason to get a good KA/CA one to replace it.

your idle problems are regular CA problems. the idle air system SUCKS. you want your car to idle well, go buy new sensors (idle air, air regulator, etc...) they're not cheap, but they do work (my car idles awesome now).

the fuel issue could be something as simple as a bad FPR. but YES get a walbro. think of it as cheap insurance. covers your multi thousand dollar investment for $75. seems like a no-brainer to me.

sounds to me like you should sell some of your aftermarket stuff off the car, and get it running WELL on stock stuff first. thats the best way to do things in my opinion

Best of luck to you man, and don't give up! I've been loving every minute of my car recently especially with the drop in temperatures here in FL from 90's to 40's. you wouldn't believe what a 50 degree drop in intake temps do for response and power!

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your telling me, its about 25-30 degress here all day, and i have a front mount

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Ditto, when it was below 0 here, the cold pipe on my FMIC would get frost on it, it was awesome!

As for your problems, I'd check the fans first. Get the correct radiator on there too. I used a stock KA one with NO FANS AT ALL and never had a problem. If I let it idle for a while, it would start to get hot, but if I turned the heater on, it would cool right back down.

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ive done all that stuff.. i search every lil problem.. yes my fan pulls ... and i do need another radiator.. but im i want something bigger.. also when i say i need cash im not implying that im broke.. im not 16 yrs. old .. just implying i gotta wait a bit.. but ill try adding some grounds.. and ill get a fuel pump later this week.. also if my car happens to be running to rich what steps can i take to correct it?? like what kind of electronic piggy back systems work on a ca18det. also do i use a fuel pressure regulator from a pulsar? or a 200sx.. or where can i get aftermarket one? dunno ill search the sponsers sites.. also if i need a coil pack or the resistor.. where can i get those? thanks

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Twiztid_S13 wrote:My worst investment is this whole f*cking car and this pos ca.. sorry i need to vent ive already spend about as much as needed for a damn sr on this ca and im not getting anywhere.. so im just gonna think about it for the next few months and decide whether to even bother anymore or just look for another project s13 and take a shotgun to this one.. i swear this car is cursed ... oh and my advice to anyone looking into a engine swap is buy a good clip from a reliable source dont trust any ebay crap.. itll be worth it in the end just cuz its cheap doesnt make it a bargain... like that saying goes .."you can shine a piece of **** up.. but its still a piece of ****".. damn i feel better.. and sorry for cursing
The car nor the engine is not your worst investment, but I do caution all about buying anything from ebay. Most people selling these motors know nothing about them and are just interested in getting rid of them to some unsuspecting fool. As with your case, you bought your motor off ebay from a friend of mine, but he's a Toyota person and his knowledge about this motor is about as limited as your immediate financial situation.

You must let the codes from the computer guide you to issues that may arise with the engine's critical electricals. Overheating is caused by a crappy radiator. Sell some of the fancy stuff and buy a good radiator. Fans could also be an issue. Don't let these issues discourage you. Use the forums knowledge and the knowledge of its personnel to help you with your issues.

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Did you check the cam timing or the ignition timing? The idle will be low or high depending on ignition timing retard or advance. As for your overheating issue, your fan isn't effective enough.

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You've replaced the thermostat, right? Just wanna make sure before we proceed...

Also, did you flush the system when you first got the motor? I know when I got mine the coolant in it was sooooo rusty, it wasn't even funny. I tried flushing it as best as I could, but it still ended up plugging up the first radiator in there. I flushed it again after that and put in my KA radiator and never had a problem again. Try that and see where it gets you...

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im getting engine code 55 .. im going to lean towards a crap fuel pump.. oh and my engine did come with rusty water.. and i flushed it.. replaced the water pump/ thermostat.. then blew the headgasket.. installed a new one.. but the turbo crapped.. oh i then flushed it again put a new thermostat and another turbo.. ive gone threw 2 sets of plugs.. but i think they were crap.. so now ive got the right plugs.. im getting there.. i posted in anger that day.. i love my car and cant wait till it runs for more then 30 min.. i got my wedge seat brackets in today but im doing a engine swap on a civic so ill start back on my car after.. and working on a different project makes me relax plus ill be making some cash..

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Money is always a good thing...

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I wanted to follow up and see if you ever solved your problem. What's the story?

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hey double check your timing because if its to high it will over heat on ya everytime. I had that problem. and go pick up a rediator from the junkyard that you dont have to jigga rig to work. I think that might help alot. I think if ya do a little trouble shooting you will get it to work. and remember when your having a problem with the engine ask us because we have run into almost every problem you can think of. We have some good minds on this forum so dont hesitate to ask for help

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NeedCAforS13 wrote:excellent points!

these are problems alot of us have had, but it seems like you went about it all wrong. when I was overheating, I went out and got a bigger radiator, not a $300 headgasket! it also sounds like your radiator is a ghetto rigged SR one, which would be another reason to get a good KA/CA one to replace it.

your idle problems are regular CA problems. the idle air system SUCKS. you want your car to idle well, go buy new sensors (idle air, air regulator, etc...) they're not cheap, but they do work (my car idles awesome now).

the fuel issue could be something as simple as a bad FPR. but YES get a walbro. think of it as cheap insurance. covers your multi thousand dollar investment for $75. seems like a no-brainer to me.

sounds to me like you should sell some of your aftermarket stuff off the car, and get it running WELL on stock stuff first. thats the best way to do things in my opinion

Best of luck to you man, and don't give up! I've been loving every minute of my car recently especially with the drop in temperatures here in FL from 90's to 40's. you wouldn't believe what a 50 degree drop in intake temps do for response and power!

Sean
were can you get a walbro for 75 $thankssorry for the off topic so...

did you bleed the cooling system?your gauge could be inacurate, samething that you are describing happened to me. try and take a thermometer and read what your coolant temp in the radiator ids (turn it on and let it warm up with the cap off) if its under 200 farenheit, your gauge is faulty.

yes i know 200 is warm but i just gave a nice number. my ka averaged about 175. so i would say anything under 180 (depending on what temp thermosat you have) would be good.

what thermostat did you replace it with? sure its 50 more dollars but i highly recomned the nismo espicially if you drive hard for more than 30 sec.

hope this helps!

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were can you get a walbro for 75 $thankssorry for the off topic so...

did you bleed the cooling system?your gauge could be inacurate, samething that you are describing happened to me. try and take a thermometer and read what your coolant temp in the radiator ids (turn it on and let it warm up with the cap off) if its under 200 farenheit, your gauge is faulty.

yes i know 200 is warm but i just gave a nice number. my ka averaged about 175. so i would say anything under 180 (depending on what temp thermosat you have) would be good.

what thermostat did you replace it with? sure its 50 more dollars but i highly recomned the nismo espicially if you drive hard for more than 30 sec.

hope this helps!
I'm skeptical about the use of lower-than-stock-temp thermostats. I don't see what difference it makes. All it changes is the temp that water/coolant enters the radiator. I see how it would help if you started running hard before the thremostat opened, so when it did open it wouldn't spike as high. However, it seems to me that the engine may have a hard time reaching operating temperature if the thermostat opens at 75 C rather than 82 C for example.

With a sufficient cooling system (i.e. upgraded radiator or simply one that 's functioning properly) the temps will be rock solid. I can see problems possibly arising from a busted thermostat, clogged radiator or water passageways, or running hot for some reason (like lean). I stay at 78 C during normal driving and at idle, dip to 70 in cold weather (40 F ) and it climbs to ~90 if I go up a hill in high gears for extended periods.

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I think that if you were able to compensate the ecu for the lower temperature and get it to run the same timing, that it would be ideal. Otherwise, it will allow the motor to run cooler and lessen the chance of detination.


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