Greetings

[NinjaBall]

Hello all. I am obviously new to this forum. Come over from the GTO forums since I got this new Altima. I just purchased a 2012 Ocean Gray Altima Coupe 2.5. After the 450 N/A RWHP Goat I am a bit unhappy with the Altima...lol...I hope to remedy a lil' bit of that here. Anyways, names Devin AKA NinjaBall. Love fast cars and fast bikes. I am a bit new to the "ricer" world but hope to have much fun with it and learn a lot from you guys and gals on here. So my first question is :

The 2012 is the same car as the 2011? Having a hard time finding squat for a '12 but a ton for the '11.

Not sure if these large looking flat sided wheel wells run 18's or 19's better. I am thinking 19's but what size tire are you running. I plan to throw some coil overs on all 4 corners so I can adjust the height of the car with a ground effects kit I also plan to install.

Whom makes a turbo kit or supercharger for the 2.5? This will be the first mod to the car.

What is the best web stores to get all the mods and supporting mods for 500 whp on a 2.5?

Thanks in advance for the help.

[DJ_B_Easy]

Welcome to NICO, there is a lot of info here.

The 2012 is the same car as the 2011? Having a hard time finding squat for a '12 but a ton for the '11.

Most parts for the 2011 also fit the 2012, however I would simply call the manufacturer to confirm. The only real changes in design from 2008 to present have been body components

Not sure if these large looking flat sided wheel wells run 18's or 19's better. I am thinking 19's but what size tire are you running.

I run 19s on 245/40 tires. The ride is a little rough since our OEM overall diameter is 26.3", Im only getting about 1.7" of sidewall (if I remember correctly, I did all the calculations a long time ago). Seems like you are a speed junkie, are you an autocross or drag guy?

Whom makes a turbo kit or supercharger for the 2.5? This will be the first mod to the car.

Im not sure that there is a specific kit for the AC. A few members here are boosted, Im sure they will chime in with their builds.

What is the best web stores to get all the mods and supporting mods for 500 whp on a 2.5?

Id again wait for some of the members whom are boosted to chime in. However, good luck with that 500 whp man. I assume you are driving a MT? CVT will not handle that much boost, I highly doubt you will get a 2.5 MT over 400 whp.

Can I ask why you junked the GTO?

[DJ_B_Easy]

Here are some build threads to check out:

scott-s-altima-coupe-2-5l-turbo-build-t443714.html

post5550910.html?hilit=scotts%20build#p5550910

[wade001]

Welcome..
Just because the car is japanese doesnt make it a ricer , what you do determins that ! Like previously asked, did you get the CVT or 6spd? that is the biggest determining factor for modding the Altima because the CVT is a weak transmission. There is no supercharger(non yet) or direct turbo but you can do it like other members have. mechanical parts i believe are the same between 08-12, just body changes. Wheels are a personal thing, but a lot of people like 19's with the 245/40 tires. Theres some real cool stuff for our car, trust me, you will have fun. And we'll be here to help

[NinjaBall]

Welcome to NICO, there is a lot of info here.

Most parts for the 2011 also fit the 2012, however I would simply call the manufacturer to confirm. The only real changes in design from 2008 to present have been body components


I run 19s on 245/40 tires. The ride is a little rough since our OEM overall diameter is 26.3", Im only getting about 1.7" of sidewall (if I remember correctly, I did all the calculations a long time ago). Seems like you are a speed junkie, are you an autocross or drag guy?

Id again wait for some of the members whom are boosted to chime in. However, good luck with that 500 whp man. I assume you are driving a MT? CVT will not handle that much boost, I highly doubt you will get a 2.5 MT over 400 whp.

Can I ask why you junked the GTO?[/quote]Thanks for the welcome

Body style between the '11 and the '12 is actually my concern. I can only find body kits for the '11.

19's seems to me to be the best fit too from some pics I have seen on here. As far as wheel and tire width goes, has any one ever needed to roll there fenders? I had to on the GTO to get the 275's on there.

LOL, I am a major speed junkie. I am a corner guy though, I love my car to hug the road for best handling, and I only drag for s*** and giggles some times. As far as cars go though, I am the guy that has the sleeper and loves to embarrass the hell out of the exotics on the freeway. For example, I have toasted a Lambo Gallardo and the Porsche Carrera S between Tucson and Phoenix. And piss of 600 cc crotch rockets all day long. The litre bikes kill me though. Damn the power to weight ratio. lol. I also a 4X4 junkie but speed overwhelms.

I wish I had the M/T BUT all they had on the lot were these silly CVT's. Made me wonder if the AC even came in a M/T. I know and knew nothing of these cars. Kind of a long story behind my purchase of this ride. Now I regret it but now have to make do with what I got.

I had found a site that I now can not find again that bragged about being able to get the AC to 450 whp and 500 if you really had the desire. That's what infected me with the HP bug for this car.

So the story begins as a GTO owner that pumped up a stock 2004 5.7 GTO with 295 RWHP to 450 RWHP with an ending product of
a minimum of 630 RWHP. But I too am a big crotch rocket fan and my wife and I both have them. I bought a 6X10 enclosed trailer to haul them to the track but I had no truck to haul them with. I had a POS Explorer as my DD that hardly even pulled itself, much less a big a** trailer. My Goat was the weekend warrior. So contemplating long and hard on it, I had decided to trade the GTO and the Exploder in on a Ram 2500 4X4 to pull the trailer and fill my wheelin' needs. I told myself that when I get back fro my next Iraq/ Afghan tour I will either replace the '04 GTO with an '06 GTO and get my 700 RWHP or get 600 out of a Bimmer M3. So then I am stuck in this big bad a** truck, the wifey decided she wanted to trade her 4 Runner in on a truck too to pull her horse trailer. Damnit! 2 gas hogs, great.... So I work 34 miles one way to work plus play time and errands so I went looking to trade the Ram in on a used, quick little fuel saver. Was only 3K in negative equity and nobody was cooperative on a used car. (I was trying for a loaded '11 AC 3.5). So they talked me into new. Putting my anxiousness of getting out of the gas hog, my brain quit working. Not willing to go over a certain payment amount I settled for the AC 2.5 cuz I just can't do the family car thing. (2 kids) Then after I made the purchase I have beat myself up over getting the 2.5. After the GTO, what a turd. If I would of thought ahead, not expecting to buy new, I would of bought another name that came with a 3.8 turbo and was less expensive. BUT now I am stuck in the lil 2.5 and am here to have 2.5 gurus make me a happy camper with ownership of this AC 2.5 S with turd package transmission.

[NinjaBall]

Welcome..
Just because the car is japanese doesnt make it a ricer , what you do determins that ! Like previously asked, did you get the CVT or 6spd? that is the biggest determining factor for modding the Altima because the CVT is a weak transmission. There is no supercharger(non yet) or direct turbo but you can do it like other members have. mechanical parts i believe are the same between 08-12, just body changes. Wheels are a personal thing, but a lot of people like 19's with the 245/40 tires. Theres some real cool stuff for our car, trust me, you will have fun. And we'll be here to help

I feel ya'.... LOLOL. I really only dislike the Honda hoopties. They are usually the ones that give the jap rides a bad name. I am a speed freak and don't really care what make it is as long as it is tastefully done. I'm stuck with the turd transmission. I am doing the 19's unless I have no other choice which is based on funding options. .

[NinjaBall]

Thanks again for the welcome and some of the info. Kinda shamed myself with my purchase of my lil AC, I even stripped the badging off just to keep you guessing with which motor I have. LOL. I do like the car though, rides smooth actually handles ok for a front wheel hooptie. Can't wait for the coil over upgrade and wheels.

[IBCoupe]

I'm stuck with the turd transmission.

To be quite honest, I like the CVT better than most other automatic transmissions, especially the shiftable transmissions I've run into.

[NinjaBall]

I'm stuck with the turd transmission.

To be quite honest, I like the CVT better than most other automatic transmissions, especially the shiftable transmissions I've run into.

I am a big horse power guy and I know that I would be able to get more out of my lil motor with the M/T, that's all really. I have only had the car 2 weeks now and really haven't had the chance to go out and play hard with the car. Seems to me though that the manual option on that thing is something you surely need to get used to to be quick with it.

[funkee]

The CVT shaves seconds off your times, because it does not shift at all. It doesn't feel as fast, but it makes a significant difference.

You can get a turbo from here for the 2.5L. It generates about 295WHP: http://speedforceracing.com/index.php?productID=1034

I dont think you can get into the range you're talking about with a 2.5 CVT. You might be able to get somewhere close with the 3.5 CVT.

[wade001]

The CVT shaves seconds off your times, because it does not shift at all. It doesn't feel as fast, but it makes a significant difference.

You can get a turbo from here for the 2.5L. It generates about 295WHP: http://speedforceracing.com/index.php?productID=1034

I dont think you can get into the range you're talking about with a 2.5 CVT. You might be able to get somewhere close with the 3.5 CVT.

lol, stay away from them, they've been flamed so many times here. just look it up on here and grab a bag of popcorn . Not even a direct bolt on! There is QR25DE, he built it from ebay parts a while back and did a build thread, spent like 2G's, not bad huh? there are things you can do to improve the CVT for higher power as well.

[BamaCoupe]

there are things you can do to improve the CVT for higher power as well.

I'm listening!

[wade001]

Dont quote me exactly on this but I'm pretty sure a problem is the transmission temp for the CVT. Adding a transmission cooler and i believe there may be a sensor you can change to improve it. I've got a 6spd so I never really looked into the issue. Want me to look into it a little and give ideas of what may help? there is no answer to solving it completely but that helps, your not going to have one handle 400hp without tearing it apart and internally modifying it if that.

[funkee]

The CVT shaves seconds off your times, because it does not shift at all. It doesn't feel as fast, but it makes a significant difference.

You can get a turbo from here for the 2.5L. It generates about 295WHP: http://speedforceracing.com/index.php?productID=1034

I dont think you can get into the range you're talking about with a 2.5 CVT. You might be able to get somewhere close with the 3.5 CVT.

lol, stay away from them, they've been flamed so many times here. just look it up on here and grab a bag of popcorn . Not even a direct bolt on! There is QR25DE, he built it from ebay parts a while back and did a build thread, spent like 2G's, not bad huh? there are things you can do to improve the CVT for higher power as well.

That's almost certainly the turbo the OP said he was reading. Claims of hp are hard to believe when they dont specify if its for MT or CVT.

Personally I'm looking into tuners for my CVT, and probably will go with BullyDog. I've heard some bad stories with UpRev. I might suggest that the OP take a look at those too.

[wade001]

if there were problems with uprev, it most likely is the person that tuned it. speedforce is one of those B.S tuner companies that misleads people. I'm quite sure both their turbo and intake manifold were flamed for false advertising on here, along with other stories.

[funkee]

if there were problems with uprev, it most likely is the person that tuned it. speedforce is one of those B.S tuner companies that misleads people. I'm quite sure both their turbo and intake manifold were flamed for false advertising on here, along with other stories.

The problems seem to stem from the ROMs themselves. I remember a thread for a 07 sedan. UpRev claimed to have a ROM for him, and he only learned that they didn't when it failed to flash properly.

Without a stock ROM, you're playing in dangerous woods. You could possibly brick... your car and make a mess of the ECU. For some reason I don't trust the stock ROMs provided by the tuning companies. What is stock for one car, may not work for another, even if they are very similar. I would only be comfortable flashing, if I could pull the stock ROM off my ECU myself.

[NinjaBall]

Yes, that is the website I had found and could not find again that peaked my interest into high HP 2.5 coupes. Thanks but yes I do plan on doing my homework before any major work or tuning is done. Only the best went on my GTO, only the best built it and only the best tuned it. I have some time cuz I can't really do anything due to my warranty. So I am just going to start easy and do wheels, body kit and window tint first. Then I am going to sweet talk the techs in allowing me to drop in the coil overs and still maintain my warranty.

I am not much of a quarter mile guy as stated before but I do want to tangle with the worthy cars on the freeway with higher speed roll-ons. If I want to beat your a** on the 1/4 mile I will just get on my 9 second crotch rocket. lolol

[Blake@STILLEN]

Yes, that is the website I had found and could not find again that peaked my interest into high HP 2.5 coupes. Thanks but yes I do plan on doing my homework before any major work or tuning is done. Only the best went on my GTO, only the best built it and only the best tuned it. I have some time cuz I can't really do anything due to my warranty. So I am just going to start easy and do wheels, body kit and window tint first. Then I am going to sweet talk the techs in allowing me to drop in the coil overs and still maintain my warranty.

I am not much of a quarter mile guy as stated before but I do want to tangle with the worthy cars on the freeway with higher speed roll-ons. If I want to beat your a** on the 1/4 mile I will just get on my 9 second crotch rocket. lolol

We got you covered on the body kits! Check out
http://www.stillen.com/browse.asp?c=EX& ... del=ALTIMA

I guess I'm at a bit of a loss when I try to understand you going from a big whp Goat to a 2.5, wanting to make the same kind of power? Although the Altima is a fantastic car, it's not exactly designed for huge power. There is some truth to the term, "there's no replacement for displacement". I'm not sure how much money you'll have to spend to make even over 350whp, not to mention the price of having a built motor, trans and diff.

With that said, welcome to the boards!

[NinjaBall]

We got you covered on the body kits! Check out
http://www.stillen.com/browse.asp?c=EX& ... del=ALTIMA

I guess I'm at a bit of a loss when I try to understand you going from a big whp Goat to a 2.5, wanting to make the same kind of power? Although the Altima is a fantastic car, it's not exactly designed for huge power. There is some truth to the term, "there's no replacement for displacement". I'm not sure how much money you'll have to spend to make even over 350whp, not to mention the price of having a built motor, trans and diff.

With that said, welcome to the boards!

LOL, it was explained why in one of my earlier ramblings. It was a regretful decision, I admit...BUT, I had a plan and now the plan is backfiring a bit now that I am into this new car. If I do wind up keeping the car long term, I do plan to spend what ever I need to, to get what I want out of this car. I will never see the power and torque that I had in my goat but I would just be happy with whatever I can get out of it.

[Ranga14]

Yeah, just focus on the looks and handling and find another car for your power needs. You can't really do anything with a 2.5 CVT.

[NinjaBall]

Yeah, just focus on the looks and handling and find another car for your power needs. You can't really do anything with a 2.5 CVT.

I am in agreement. I was just mentioning today that save a little bit up now then when I get back from my next tour to the middle east, Just pay cash for the 06 GTO I want to replace my 04 with. Keep the Coupe as my DD. BUT I just found out that the car lot knows I am unhappy and are trying to put me in a 3.5 SR BUT the only color they have is the Crimson Black which is red metal flake when the sun hits it. Not sure I like it. Plus I think it too has the CVT. I told them I want white with the red leather and the 6 spd short shifter and Nav. I do believe they are unwilling to cooperate in getting me what I want.

[andyhenault]

They should be able to order one in, no? I specifically requested the 3.5SR in crimson. Great colour! What are you going to Afghanistan for?

[NinjaBall]

They should be able to order one in, no? I specifically requested the 3.5SR in crimson. Great colour! What are you going to Afghanistan for?

U.S. Army

[Ranga14]

Yeah, just focus on the looks and handling and find another car for your power needs. You can't really do anything with a 2.5 CVT.

I am in agreement. I was just mentioning today that save a little bit up now then when I get back from my next tour to the middle east, Just pay cash for the 06 GTO I want to replace my 04 with. Keep the Coupe as my DD. BUT I just found out that the car lot knows I am unhappy and are trying to put me in a 3.5 SR BUT the only color they have is the Crimson Black which is red metal flake when the sun hits it. Not sure I like it. Plus I think it too has the CVT. I told them I want white with the red leather and the 6 spd short shifter and Nav. I do believe they are unwilling to cooperate in getting me what I want.

Don't settle for the CVT if you're wanting to do serious performance mods, even with the 3.5. Even if they're unable to make you a deal, at least you'll have a sexy DD that will turn heads once you have all the aesthetic work done.

[funkee]

3.5s are getting swallowed up as soon as this hit the showroom floor. I would have preferred to have gotten a 6mt 3.5, but there was only a single one for sale in bright red, somewhere in the midwest. I managed to get a 3.5 cvt here, and I was clearly competing with another buyer. My dealer was looking for a 6mt for me but could not find one for a few weeks.

You might get very lucky and find one, but chances are it won't be your color choice.

To get the 6mt 3.5 you almost certainly need to get it new, or get on some kind of a waiting list. Heck you have to wait for it to be made when getting it new. There are about 30 cvts made for every 6mt.

[andyhenault]

They should be able to order one in, no? I specifically requested the 3.5SR in crimson. Great colour! What are you going to Afghanistan for?

U.S. Army

Oh really? I thought you were vacationing. I was wondering what you do, infantry?

[IBCoupe]

The sheep are beautiful this time of year.

[NinjaBall]

[/quote]

Oh really? I thought you were vacationing. I was wondering what you do, infantry?[/quote]
I was vacationing, not to mention it's safer over there than walking the streets here.

Combat Aviation

[NinjaBall]

The sheep are beautiful this time of year.

sexy camels