Greddy turbo kit????

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placham
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Just wondering if its worth buying this kit. It says its for 95-98. I got a 90 coupe and a 95 motor just sitting around. I'm putting back in the sohc, for now from auto to manual. But in the mean while I'm looking around for kit or pieces for dohc turbo setup.

It costs 3000 bucks for this setup and its complete minus the intercooler, that it does not come with. Which is not needed here if running low boost 6-7psi I think.

My qustion is, is it worth buying this kit or would it be cheaper to piece one together. Because it costs about 700 bucks for good manifold and 200 for downpipe + good quality turbo (I was planing on going with T04S Garrett) costs around 700+/- used or new.

Thats around 1500 for the main parts plus 150 to 200 for wastegate if turbo is not internally gated.

What about the other parts needed piping, injectors, maf (if needed for higher boost level), any sort of engine management, plus misc parts needed.

Just trying to figure out if its possible to put together a quality kit below 3000bucks, other wise I might buy the Greddy kit.

oh, that Greddy kit is good to about 400hp right, past that dont know if the turbo will support that, right

Anybody running that kit?,I did not mention, I will be running the 95 ecm with that Dohc. And the greddy kit comes with e-manage (Piggy back) right. Just have to drill out a hole in trans bell-housing for crankshaft position sensor, so no CEL or codes will be throwned. (because I got a trans from a 91) and 95+ need that CPS for OBD2 I think.

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well i am putting it in right now and so far the install is pretty easy, the only hard part is dropping the oil pan. i didn't even really have trouble with the manifold bolts, then again i have had practice with tight bolt postions like that. but for you i would honestly say piece it together.

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once your done let me know how it goes and how does the car run after install.

How much did you pay for the kit and where did you buy it?Because I have seen Greddy on ebay for 2994 + 100/110s/h.

is that the car your putting it on (red s14a/kouki), is it auto or manual?

Just want to get some background on this kit, seems like its kind of rare on this car. Or maybe not alot of people run it because of the cost.

did you get some sort of instruction manual with/ for the more detailed stuff like where to run the oil feed line from and stuff like that, just curious of how they go about things like that. Would be really cool if they do that, guiding the consumer how to intall their product and what to do in certain areas the need attention. Just curious have never seen a kit first hand, and Greddy by the way. That turbo is Mitsu TD06H right, BB?, is it Oil/water cooled or just oil.

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i should hopefullt get it done today. i actually bought mine from phase2motortrend they're a sponser here. only paid 2750 shipped for it. yes thats my car i am putting it in, it is a manual. the kit comes with pretty good instructions on how to install it. you will need to sort the nuts and bolts, they give you a description of each type and when to use but you have to figure out which one is which, real easy to do if you have a metric ruler. here are the instructions it comes with http://www.greddy.com/img/PHP/...T.pdfturbo is TD06-20g and is just oil cooled.

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I have the kit on my s13. It fits well, just had a little trouble with the exhaust manifold being a little tight around the studs. I got my kit from enjukuracing.com, they were very helpful with it. The turbo is good for 400hp at least but the small 370cc injectors won't get you that far. Also, if you decide to upgrade to the z32 mafs or any other mafs for that matter the airinx filter won't bolt right to the mafs. The larger z32 mafs has a different (larger) bolt pattern than the s14 mafs. Also, which exhaust do you have? If you have the stock s13 exhaust you will have to pick up an SR dp or make your own. The greddy dp goes from the turbo down to the same point that the sr turbo outlet goes to, so you still need to get it to the cat. Other than that it is a good kit, but if you know what you are doing you could probable peice a good kit together for a little less. But either way Good Luck.

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S13HatchKa24DET wrote:I have the kit on my s13. It fits well, just had a little trouble with the exhaust manifold being a little tight around the studs. I got my kit from enjukuracing.com, they were very helpful with it. The turbo is good for 400hp at least but the small 370cc injectors won't get you that far. Also, if you decide to upgrade to the z32 mafs or any other mafs for that matter the airinx filter won't bolt right to the mafs. The larger z32 mafs has a different (larger) bolt pattern than the s14 mafs. Also, which exhaust do you have? If you have the stock s13 exhaust you will have to pick up an SR dp or make your own. The greddy dp goes from the turbo down to the same point that the sr turbo outlet goes to, so you still need to get it to the cat. Other than that it is a good kit, but if you know what you are doing you could probable peice a good kit together for a little less. But either way Good Luck.
wait isnt that kit only for the s14 or does it fit the s13 as well?? i know they are the same motors but i was just wondering how it fit the s13?

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It is meant for the s14 but does fit the s13, with some small detail changes that i listed (exhaust and the airnix filter adapter only fits s14 mafs). Also, the e-manage doesn't work on the s13 obd-I, but he said he had the 95 ecu which i assume he means the obd-II one so he can run the e-manage.

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yeah that is the reason I asked about this kit compared to piecing one. I do have a 1990 coupe that was KA24E automatic from factory.Right now its a KA24E with 5spd. But soon want to go with '95 KA24DE that I got sitting in the garage. I have the orginal ECM and the gauge cluster with that motor engine wiring and interior wiring harness all complete from passanger side all the way to the driver side including the SMJ with uncut wires to it. It would take some work but I'm sure I could get the 95 harness working in my car at least the ecm/engine harness and cluster.

That's why I'm interested in the Greddy kit. It is a bolt on for the 95+. 89 to 94 240sx with KA24E and KA24DE use ECM connector that is very similar, as a matter of fact it actualy might be the same, never looked at it closely(similar to SR20DET connector(blue in color)).

95+ Connector is different and is white in color from what I know.

And Yes its OBD2 because, wiring hasness has "Consul" Nissan Specific connector(need nissan scan tool for that) and "GST" Generic scan tool which is a standarized diagnostic connector. Flywheel/crankshaft position sensor, which is located in the trans bellhousing. plus two O2 sensors.

Just wanted to clear that up. This kit can, and I think it was used in a S13 several times before(I think I have seen it here on this forum) dont know the details. It can be used on any KA24DE but pre OBD2 you have to do something with the E-manage. I havent looked into it but it actually might work with pre 1995 240sx might just have to change couple of wires around. Dont know so dont hold me to it. Idont know if E-manage works only with OBD2 or not its a piggy-back.

And as S13HatchKa24DET stated he has a S13 chassis and hes running this kit. That seems to be correct because s14 run two catalityc converters from what I remember and they have a short exhaust manifold compared to pre 95 240sx. He has not mentioned but he is propably running E-manage.

This kit seems to be good because its complete and from reputable brand, just sucks that it does not have any warranty.

And if one was to use the E-manage (which is allready programed for this kit and car) Is it possible to change the parameters for example changing the MAF or injectors. Or do you have to get some extra stuff for the e-manage?

Oh yeah I have the s14 MAF too, its different from older ka24de because its all plastic compared to aluminium housing with insert sensor.

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S13HatchKa24DET
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Actually, I don't have the e-manage. I don't know how you would change it to work with OBDI. I sent my emanage and ecu to enjukuracing and they had enthalpy chip and tune my ecu, and they kept the e-manage(gave me a discount on the tune). Also, from what I know the e-manage comes with a couple different tunes in its memory, but the kit doesn't come with the software for tuning the system (I don't know if you can get it anywhere). I beleive Greddy wants you to take it to one of their dealers and have them do it.


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