Governor Sarah Palin IS going to get the support she needs - a positive thread!

[szh]

Here is a positive thread describing how well the Gov Palin selection is sitting with people. I will provide just a few quotes from them ... click on the links for the full articles.

From "A momentous occasion for all GOP women"

Quote »Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has delivered the electric jolt that Republicans had hoped for, but she has also sent a quiet thrill through Republican women who feel they've grabbed a little historic momentum from Democrats.

"The Democrats talked about putting a woman on the ticket [this election], but we did it," said Caroline Malenick, an alternate from Virginia perched in the upper deck of the Xcel Energy Center just before two other leading female lights -- First Lady Laura Bush and Cindy McCain -- were to take the stage. "She's a reformer, like [Sen. John] McCain, she's from outside Washington. The fact that she's a woman is a bonus."[/quote]From "Republican support grows among youth, women"

Quote »Marschman is not only excited to be on the floor of the convention yet again, but to do so in support of a candidate that she believes is really picking up some steam.

“Once McCain was our nominee, it has been a remarkable process to watch because woman are totally behind,” Marschman said, who is also excited to see a Palin as the vice presidential candidate.

“It’s appealing to all of us. We’re very excited to have a woman on the ballot.”

The pick is a relative one, especially in Waukesha County where several county Republican organization members have commended the Republican Women of Waukesha County group which is seeing continued strong support.[/quote]From "McCain Campaign Just Went Up A Notch"

Quote »The old face of feminism has been replaced by the face of a strong woman and mom. This lady was selected for her appeal to the base of the Republican party not to pick up the votes of Hillary's chicks.

The major objection is that Palin, like Candidate Obama, has little experience in foreign affairs though she has visited the troops more often then Candidate Obama. Yet if truth be known foreign policy is an area in this nation that needs a lot of work by both parties. It would be nice to see a coherent foreign policy instead of knee jerk reactions. As for Palin, I'd venture that she can go eyeball to eyeball with either of the pictured Russians and not blink.[/quote]From "Sarah Palin: conservatives find the girl of their dreams"

Quote »“We may be seeing the first woman president. As a Democrat, I am reeling,” said Camille Paglia, the cultural critic. “That was the best political speech I have ever seen delivered by an American woman politician. Palin is as tough as nails.”

“Good Lord, we had barely 12 hours of Democrat optimism,” said Paglia. “It was a stunningly timed piece of PR by the Republicans.”[/quote]From "Republican women strongly support Palin for vice president"

Quote »Several Republican women are enthusiastically voicing their support for Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be the first woman nominated to the Presidential ticket by their party. The announcement of Senator John McCain’s VP pick was made earlier today from Dayton, Ohio sparking a stream of congratulatory calls to Iowa Republican headquarters.

Ambassador Mary Kramer is no stranger to history. The former President of the Iowa Senate was the first woman to be elected to that position.

“Governor Palin has always answered the call to serve, and done so for the right reasons,” Kramer said. “She has demonstrated executive leadership in every office she’s held and actually has a record of getting results to back it up.” [/quote]Needless to say, I am posting this thread in a positive vein. If you cannot be positive, please feel free to ignore this thread, but please don't post negative attacks gratuitously. Thanks!

Z

[themadscientist]

She has definately made me want to participte in the electoral process for the first time in my life.

[audtatious]

I find in interesting that Oblahma says the Palin daughter issue should be "off limits" as his mother was 18 when he was born, which does show he has some sensitivity, yet the news and media are all over it and being quite nasty. I knew where the MSM would go when MSNBC showed the "how many houses" remark during her speach on stage and Larry King among others are jumping all over her at this point. It's a pretty stupid move since Hillary supporters are already pissed at the DNC and their actions during the race to ensure Obama would get the nod. Having the MSM constantly attack Palin is just further going to push more of these people more towards McCain.

Interesting videos about the caucus' events:

http://www.wewillnotbesilenced...x.htm

You see Dems do things against the Reps and vice versa but these are Dems who are being screwed over by other Dems.

[szh]

Some more positive notes:

From "Sarah Palin -- Dream Girl"

Quote »Is she short on experience? Yes. Voters will have to watch her performance on the campaign trail to judge how she responds to high-stakes politics and the international arena.

That said, as a governor, Palin she has more experience running a government than Obama, who began serving his first term in the U.S. Senate in 2005. And unlike Obama, Palin has shown herself willing to challenge her jaded ethical policies within her party. That's change.[/quote]From "Palin Makes Good First Impression: Is Viewed More Favorably than Biden"

Quote »Sarah Palin has made a good first impression. Before being named as John McCain’s running mate, 67% of voters didn’t know enough about the Alaska governor to have an opinion. After her debut in Dayton and a rush of media coverage, a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 53% now have a favorable opinion of Palin while just 26% offer a less flattering assessment.

Palin earns positive reviews from 78% of Republicans, 26% of Democrats and 63% of unaffiliated voters. Obviously, these numbers will be subject to change as voters learn more about her in the coming weeks. Among all voters, 29% have a Very Favorable opinion of Palin while 9% hold a Very Unfavorable view.By way of comparison, on the day he was selected as Barack Obama’s running mate, Delaware Senator Joseph Biden was viewed favorably by 43% of voters.[/quote]McCain-Biden are on a roll! Washington, here we come.

Z

[telcoman]

Some more positive notes:

McCain-Biden are on a roll! Washington, here we come.

Z

Yup some roll

Keep believing it

The question today is Will Sarah still be on the ticket by November 4th?

http://www.dailykos.com/

Telcoman

[rn79870]

I could not be happer with any choice John McCain could have made for his VP than I am with his selection of Sarah Palin.

[skylndrftr]

Shes great...not only does she 'raise the bar' for women, but for beauty queen baby factories everywhere.

I notice that you specifically mentioned GOP women szhosain...could that be because she sets the cause of women as a whole back a loooong way in the political process.

[rn79870]

Now Sky, this is a positive thread. Tell everyone why she was a such a great seleection.

[skylndrftr]

http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska....html

positive...shes hot enough for Vogue

[HashiriyaS14]

McCain-Biden are on a roll!

Huh?

Anyway, it cannot be argued that the Palin nomination didn't energize the conservative base, as it obviously has. If that was the aim, then "mission accomplished".

My argument is that isn't going to be enough, and that he should have picked a more centrist Vice President. McCain WANTED to pick Lieberman or Ridge, but apparently he was told that it would be a bad idea because both are pro-choice.

Hopefully, this will show the GOP that they cannot continue to cater to the social conservatives at the expense of good political sense. There are too many disaffected conservatives (i.e. me) this time to get by on a "rally the base" strategy.

The base has definitely been rallied, but it is the OPINION of this particular disaffected conservative that it won't be enough this go-round.

[szh]

Anyway, it cannot be argued that the Palin nomination didn't energize the conservative base, as it obviously has. If that was the aim, then "mission accomplished".

So far, so good!

My argument is that isn't going to be enough, and that he should have picked a more centrist Vice President.

I think picking "safely" would not have reflected McCain's maverick nature and would have led to his defeat in the elections, since it would not be enough to surmount the Obama efforts.

This way, he is telling the Undecided that he is for real change. No picking a 30+ year veteran of Washington (like Biden) and not getting any change - just "more of the same" Washington politics.

The base has definitely been rallied, but it is the OPINION of this particular disaffected conservative that it won't be enough this go-round.

Maybe, maybe not. Let's see in Nov, I guess.

Z

[szh]

Yup some roll

Keep believing it

You bet. I intend to!

The question today is Will Sarah still be on the ticket by November 4th?

http://www.dailykos.com/

Absolutely, she will be on the ticket. Some inflammatory, third-rate hate-site, is not exactly a source of trustworthy information.

Z

[HashiriyaS14]

I think picking "safely" would not have reflected McCain's maverick nature and would have led to his defeat in the elections, since it would not be enough to surmount the Obama efforts.

I don't think that Lieberman would've been a "safe" pick, but I think he would've been the right pick to win in November.

Can you imagine the bi-partisan appeal that a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have?

I mean, Lieberman is the guy on the 2000 Gore ticket that Democrats maintain should've won the White House. To see him go over and run on a GOP ticket with a man widely regarded as a Maverick? That would've been unstoppable.

Generally, you rally the base in the primaries and then walk to the center for the general election. Why McCain is walking further to the right and pandering to voters who he already HAD is beyond me.

More people are identifying themselves as "independents" now than at any point in recent history, and THESE are the voters that will determine the victor in November. McCain has, it appears, chosen to ignore them, as these independents do not tend to be socially conservative, or at least not staunchly so.

I guess I'm just mystified by the whole thing, and I don't think it's because I'm stupid and I don't get it, although if anyone here thinks that, then I guess you're entitled to your opinion. It just doesn't seem like good politics to me.

[szh]

Shes great...not only does she 'raise the bar' for women, but for beauty queen baby factories everywhere.

1. Don't be negative, please.

2. Whether you agree with it or not, beauty queen pageants are a particularly American thing that have been around for a long, long time. Whether Palin was good enough to win, when she was young, is hardly a basis for disqualification for the office of VP right now.

I notice that you specifically mentioned GOP women szhosain...could that be because she sets the cause of women as a whole back a loooong way in the political process.

1. Why are you insulting GOP women? Are they somehow lesser human beings for being part of the Republican party?

2. For the moment, they are going to be the ones supporting Palin, of course! Just give it some time for many others, non-GOP, to perhaps come around too.

Z

[szh]

I don't think that Lieberman would've been a "safe" pick, but I think he would've been the right pick to win in November.

Can you imagine the bi-partisan appeal that a McCain-Lieberman ticket would have?

I mean, Lieberman is the guy on the 2000 Gore ticket that Democrats maintain should've won the White House. To see him go over and run on a GOP ticket with a man widely regarded as a Maverick? That would've been unstoppable.

Generally, you rally the base in the primaries and then walk to the center for the general election. Why McCain is walking further to the right and pandering to voters who he already HAD is beyond me.

More people are identifying themselves as "independents" now than at any point in recent history, and THESE are the voters that will determine the victor in November. McCain has, it appears, chosen to ignore them, as these independents do not tend to be socially conservative, or at least not staunchly so.

I guess I'm just mystified by the whole thing, and I don't think it's because I'm stupid and I don't get it, although if anyone here thinks that, then I guess you're entitled to your opinion. It just doesn't seem like good politics to me.

Hash, I am not arguing that Lieberman or [name another seasoned veteran] would NOT have been a good choice too.

What I am saying is that I think it would NOT have been enough to overcome the Obama-Biden juggernaut. A McCain-Lieberman would have been too hum-drum to energize people enough, to make it different, to make people sit up and see that McCain is not just another rerun for office.

McCain needed to show that he was for REAL change, with a selection who has already DONE change, rather than Obama who orates about it but picks a 30+ Senate veteran like Biden who "knows" that he cannot change things, so will not try properly!

Whether I am right or wrong is unknown, of course. Nov will be the deciding date.

Z

[skylndrftr]

1. Don't be negative, please.

Negative implies I dislike her...she seems like a reasonable person, I have no problem with her. I find her highly amusing. I know someone on our local school board, that position doesn't exactly qualify them for the Secretary of Education role though. I'm also convinced her glasses are fake/to make her look smarter.

Quote »2. Whether you agree with it or not, beauty queen pageants are a particularly American thing that have been around for a long, long time. Whether Palin was good enough to win, when she was young, is hardly a basis for disqualification for the office of VP right now.[/quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww[/end discussion]PS: despite what your hear from the pundit farm, she doesn't get military experience brownie points for leading the state national guard regiments. OOOOHHH and she also gets no foreign policy credits for being closest to Russia...if that was the case then can I vote Sig Hansen for SecState? He fishes even closer

Quote »1. Why are you insulting GOP women? Are they somehow lesser human beings for being part of the Republican party?[/quote]I don't have a lot of respect for people who vote against their own interests. Despite my distaste for Hillary Clinton, she brought the case of women in this country forward through the many years shes been involved in politics. Sarah Palin is a step back towards pregnant and shoeless in the kitchen, not a step forward.

Quote »2. For the moment, they are going to be the ones supporting Palin, of course! Just give it some time for many others, non-GOP, to perhaps come around too. [/quote] or for more scandals to come out...I think the straight talk express missed the the VP vetting station on this one.

[AZhitman]

1) I'm also convinced her glasses are fake/to make her look smarter.

2) I don't have a lot of respect for people who vote against their own interests.

3) Sarah Palin is a step back towards pregnant and shoeless in the kitchen, not a step forward.

1) That's an important consideration and a critical issue of national importance.

2) People who vote a straight ticket / toe the party line are incapable of thinking for themselves.

3) Wasn't it the left who made the claims that she should be home raising her special-needs child? Wasn't it the left that said, "How can she have 5 kids AND be the VP?"

Sarah Palin is, from all accounts I've read, an inspirational and strong role model for women. Hate away!

[telcoman]

You bet. I intend to!

Absolutely, she will be on the ticket. Some inflammatory, third-rate hate-site, is not exactly a source of trustworthy information.

Z

You may want to check with the librarian and former mayor about her wanting to ban books that she didn't approve of.

"Sarah Palin: Separatist, former mayor of a village, and a wannabe book-burner:"

"[Former Wasilla mayor John Stein] says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor. "

Here's one of those news reports from 1997:

"City librarian Mary Ellen Emmons [Baker] will stay, but Police Chief Irl Stambaugh is on his own, Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin announced Friday. The decision came one day after letters signed by Palin were dropped on Stambaugh's and Emmon's desks, telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13."

[...]

"Both Stambaugh and Emmons [Baker] publicly supported Palin's opponent, long-time mayor John Stein during the campaign last fall. When she was elected, Palin questioned their loyalty and initially asked for their resignations. But Stambaugh said he thought any questions had been resolved "

"Putting it simply, Sarah Palin's idea of executive leadership involves firing the people you perceive as non-supporters, and outright abuse of power."

"If she were vice-president, would she call up librarians around the country and dictate to them? Would she invade our privacy like that? Try to equalize everyone by telling us what we can and cannot have in our libraries?"

Yes, Sarah Palin was a fine choice for VP for the Republicans

What a find! Way to go John McCain

Telcoman

[AZhitman]

How many issues of Penthouse were available in the public library where your kids went, Howard?

Good for her for doing her job as a ublic servant and responding to the people.

I rest my case.

[rn79870]

Z posted this thread in an attempt to look at the positive side of Palin. In all fairness, let's give him that opportunity by keeping this thread positive in nature. So, please limit your posts in this thread to that topic.

I'm not editing comments out of this thread (I already split it once) that are not on topic, but Z has my support if he feels the need to do so.

If you have something that isn't positive, feel free to start a new thread, or add that post to another general thread about Palin.

However, children should be off limits unless it relates directly to the office the candidate is running for.

[ishkabibble]

She has definately made me want to participte in the electoral process for the first time in my life.

Ok ok I give, what is "participate in the electoral process" sexual innuendo for?