Got some vid of my car finally, me vs 96 SS bolt ons, turbo 400 and spray

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Sanioll, you know what I love about your comments. You think the exact same as the rest of the domestic with blower, NOS, and turbos. You guys may make 700whp. The problem you fail to realize if a 4 banger is making 600 whp then you will still get owned (provided you know how to drive the car) by the 4 banger. In Dallas, we have many domestic guys who think the same way and I love taking them for their money. They don't know jack about racing. Its common since man. (Power to wieght ratio). Now, in Dallas we do Highway runs. I've beat 2 different Stg 2 Lingenfilter Vettes, Vipers with 200 shots of NOS and every bolt on they can throw on them, a few 1000 bikes, the dam kill list goes on for me. You should watch and experience some of these high power KA-T's. We own the ****ing roads. Hell even the dam big power'd Supra's fear us. Hell, put one up against myself, Klatt, or Structure. These KA's ain't now honda, We got torque bishez hehe

I dont know about that... Domestic V8s have a much broader torque curve. Also, a lingenfelter vette should smoke just about anything on the road. The drivers must have sucked. Vettes have good top end gearing too... they dont run out of RPMs at 150ish like 240s do... the 6 speeds are geared sky high.

[virus77]

actually the 6 is geared so high that its not usable for acceleration. Thats the ghettoness of American engineering kicking in to meet their own countries smog laws.

[4felix20]

nice vid. i'd like to see one featuring just your car...

[wild_maxx]

to me the whole 4 banger vs. v-8 stuff is stupid. Sure you can make 700 hp with a v-8 but thats not impressive to me.... making 500+ hp with ONLY 4 CYLINDERS is way more impressive to me. The power to weight ratio between the 4 banger and the v-8 is very different as well.

[GEO]

.. What you guys don't know or can't see is the 2 chicks he had in the car as he was racing.
Modified by GEO at 12:27 PM 12/23/2005

[virus77]

to me the whole 4 banger vs. v-8 stuff is stupid. Sure you can make 700 hp with a v-8 but thats not impressive to me.... making 500+ hp with ONLY 4 CYLINDERS is way more impressive to me. The power to weight ratio between the 4 banger and the v-8 is very different as well.

A V8 can also make 6000 hp, is that not impressive. I have appreciation for all types of engines whether it has 4,6,8 or 16 cylinders, every motor has its pros/cons.

[Structure240sx]

exactly as virus said. as long as something is done right i like it. i can be a turbo honda as long as its clean and works good i appreciate it

theres a supercharged c5 vert at my uncles shop. wish i took a pic, it screams midlife crisis with skulls on the back with the tailights as eyeballs and even some blue neons here and there, but its a 2002 and only has 1997 miles!!! car is really really nice and tears up the 335 michelins like its nothing. for the price that you can get a c5 is going to make it very tempting for me as a next car over a 350z or other import. we are going to dyno it next week at a dyno meet, it should make 500rwhp no problem off pump gas of course

[duncan351]

I hear what you're saying. I used to think the same way but I beg to differ after some of these cars I've raced. Not say'n our car are the fastest thing on the planet but I'm very suprised how fast these cars are at high HP levels. I'm mean, I'm only making 438 to the wheels but its enough to pull the stg 2 vettes. Stg 2 Lingenfilters are only in the 11's to begine with so its not like its unbeatable. Its not like they are 9 second cars or something so they can be beat by quite a few cars in Dallas. Its not uncommon to find a car truely running in the 10's and some deep in the 10's on the interstate late at night down here. I beat them from a 60 or 70 punch and the race was over by 140 or a little less. Even though I convencingly walked both of them, yes if we would have kept going he would have finally caught me and passed me because I run out of gear. I top out at 172. Hell, I've watched Duy's old 10 240 run Steve Con's RX7.com car, a close to 800whp supra and something else(don't remeber the other car) but Duy's car was right there with them all til he ran out of gear.

Anyways, yes I don't knock anything that makes power. Its all about having fun anyway.

[duncan351]

Structure how does that vette hold up to your 240?
Modified by duncan351 at 7:06 PM 12/23/2005

[Structure240sx]

we havent raced them, and i doubt it would happen since its a customers car. shhhh

[S14tat]

heh that would definitly be a interesting race. a boosted mid life crisis car ( that vette in particular ) vs boosted 240.

[1WheelWonder]

As if I wasn't in love with your car enough you go and post this badass vid.

[Structure240sx]

wont be any vids this weekend. not cuz of the holiday but because i walked out side yesterday to a flat drag radial. i picked up a screw on thursday night while i was driving it all around. its not worth it to me to get my nitto 555r's put on so im just gonna wait to get a new bfg drag radial. shame cuz they were less than 2 months old, which is almost half their life

[xTearsFallForeverx]

you know... think about this.. a new z06 will cost you what 50k? and a beefed up 03 SuperCharged Cobra will cost you what.. 33k? throw on another 5-6 grand for a twin turbo kit and you have what. cars that cost you anwhere from 40-60k. if someone put 40-60k in a 240... do you realize how crazy it would be? price/power:weight id rather have my 240 anyday. better more impressive performance.. WAY less base costs. of course there are exceptions to this rule.

[Structure240sx]

new z06 is $85k, a family friend has one

[S14tat]

well they the sticker price is 75K but your friend probrably had a marked up price since they're selling like hotcakes.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

you know... think about this.. a new z06 will cost you what 50k? and a beefed up 03 SuperCharged Cobra will cost you what.. 33k? throw on another 5-6 grand for a twin turbo kit and you have what. cars that cost you anwhere from 40-60k. if someone put 40-60k in a 240... do you realize how crazy it would be? price/power:weight id rather have my 240 anyday. better more impressive performance.. WAY less base costs. of course there are exceptions to this rule.

Well when you screw up one of the cars, insurance will pay more for the more costly cars... food for thought. Besides, not everyone wants to buy a car and not be able to drive it for a year while the whole thing gets reworked.

[KATwo40]

you know... think about this.. a new z06 will cost you what 50k? and a beefed up 03 SuperCharged Cobra will cost you what.. 33k? throw on another 5-6 grand for a twin turbo kit and you have what. cars that cost you anwhere from 40-60k. if someone put 40-60k in a 240... do you realize how crazy it would be? price/power:weight id rather have my 240 anyday. better more impressive performance.. WAY less base costs. of course there are exceptions to this rule.

I'm sorry, but that's bull****. I love my 240, don't get me wrong. KAT is a blast. But you cannot honestly believe that a 240 can completely outperform either an 03 Cobra or a TT Z06, mod for mod.

Furthermore, the power:weight is gonna be WAY better on either of those, more so for the Cobra. You act as though an 03 Cobra is 4500lbs, when they're actually very close to the weight of a stock S14. Like the guy on the first page posted...you CAN NOT replace displacement. 10psi on a 4cyl. will NOT outperform 10psi on a V8. And I'm sorry, but today's V8's don't weight 3x what our IRON block KA's weigh.

Now, turn to suspension. Mod for mod, the Z06 and the Cobra will out handle a 240. The 240 is good, but it's a bit narrow for it's length. That's why you don't see gobs of 240's in the front of the SCCA runoffs, whereas you see Cobras and Vettes all the time.

I'm not tryin' to be rude, or insult Structure's car. He's done an amazing job with it. And the KA is one of the torquiest 4cylinders ever. But even he is aware that a well built LS1 under forced induction is a force with which to be reckonned.

[virus77]

you know... think about this.. a new z06 will cost you what 50k? and a beefed up 03 SuperCharged Cobra will cost you what.. 33k? throw on another 5-6 grand for a twin turbo kit and you have what. cars that cost you anwhere from 40-60k. if someone put 40-60k in a 240... do you realize how crazy it would be? price/power:weight id rather have my 240 anyday. better more impressive performance.. WAY less base costs. of course there are exceptions to this rule.

If I was looking for a track only car then i would agree with you, with 60K I can make a 240 better than a stock z06 or any car for that matter. But the people that buy 911 turbos, ferrari, etc. want a beautiful car that performs like clockwork and satisfies certain desires a 240sx doesnt have (which there is alot of), they dont want a fast/good handling bucket.

[Iamjohnhayes]

I guess an SR is totally out of the question then.

Not on this forum.

and as for the scca comment, i thought that they had age limits on the run-offs, not sure though

(more off topic) does anyone know which sca class that they run with the older style cars like the e30 bmw's and whatnot?

[GEO]

I thought I jsut recently saw a SCCA event and the S14 won?

[HolyShiznit]

I'm sorry, but that's bull****. I love my 240, don't get me wrong. KAT is a blast. But you cannot honestly believe that a 240 can completely outperform either an 03 Cobra or a TT Z06, mod for mod.

Furthermore, the power:weight is gonna be WAY better on either of those, more so for the Cobra. You act as though an 03 Cobra is 4500lbs, when they're actually very close to the weight of a stock S14. Like the guy on the first page posted...you CAN NOT replace displacement. 10psi on a 4cyl. will NOT outperform 10psi on a V8. And I'm sorry, but today's V8's don't weight 3x what our IRON block KA's weigh.

Now, turn to suspension. Mod for mod, the Z06 and the Cobra will out handle a 240. The 240 is good, but it's a bit narrow for it's length. That's why you don't see gobs of 240's in the front of the SCCA runoffs, whereas you see Cobras and Vettes all the time.

I'm not tryin' to be rude, or insult Structure's car. He's done an amazing job with it. And the KA is one of the torquiest 4cylinders ever. But even he is aware that a well built LS1 under forced induction is a force with which to be reckonned.

An 03-04 Cobra weighs in at 3500-3700. Far from the weight of a stock S14. And an 03 Cobra will essentially only be good for one thing: going straight.

Anyone that would honestly rather have a 240sx over a C5 Vette is nuts to be honest.

[Structure240sx]

it was so hard to get out of the procharged c5 vert at my uncles shop today. serisouly considering ones as a daily

[virus77]

Yeah I've been eyeing C5's for a while now too, so much potential. But lately I'm kinda thinking of getting a S500 and just getting out of the headaches associated with modified cars, Im such a wuss.