Got myself a 240! Whats next?

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Mocha
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Hey all! I'm new to the nissan scene and to this forum. I just got a nice s13 shell and have a $4000 budget for just the motor/swap. I need this done in less than 15 days and I wanna stay N/A. Would it be possible to swap in a VQ35de or an F22 in that short of a time period and for that price? I'm going all out with this guys so your advice will be greatly appreciated! thanks! : ]


MastaYu
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Welcome man!

Definatey can not drop in an VQ with that amount of money definatly need a bit more.

Are you going to be installing it yourself?

Mocha
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Thanks. : ]No i wont. : / How much is a bit more? On average how much for the engine and the work do you think?Well in that case, would it be possible to drop in an RB? Would the F22 still be an option for me? Sry for the nubbish questions, I just dont have time to research atm and need to get this done!

twistedsymphony
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I looked into a VQ swap...

for a GOOD condition VQ35DE and 6 speed you're looking at about $6K just for the motorset, plus another $2K for the mounting kit another $1K for engine management and another $2-$4K for other crap that didn't come with the motor or the kit (radiator, driveshaft, conversion lines, etc.)

you can do it cheaper but only if you get lucky (meaning you found someone selling a wrecked 350Z for $2000 that you can steal the motor set and hundreds of extra parts out of) but that also means that you'll be waiting a whole lot longer than 15 days for that kind of deal to fall in your lap (if it ever even happens)

In general if you want it done NOW expect to pay a few extra grand in parts because you wont have time to shop around and wait for the good deals.

An RB would likely be cheaper as would an SR.. the reason being that the motors were mostly designed for that chassis so they don't need much special mounting equipment and things like fuel lines, power steering, ac, and other "minor" things mostly just work where as when going for something like a VQ they need to be converted.

MastaYu
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I asked a local shop and they told me the vqswap would be about 10-15gs

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mRodiek
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the RB motor is forced induction...RB26 is TT lolif you really wanna go NA then why dont you try out the KA? see how much power you can pull from the ol motor lol

Second Shadow
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I'd say get the sr20 in either its non-turbo form, or just remove the turbo and go NA with it. The turbo form comes with direct ignition though, and sometimes they sell them with the turbo missing (and cheaper because of it). It would still be a cheap, easy to sorce, standard install like all the turbos, but you've have a solid NA engine to build on.

Mostly when your going for NA performance, you get pretty high up there in rpm. I've herd of SR's breaking into the 9k rpm range without too many major upgrades. but the most of the already established support for it would still be there, and I would imagion it would do pretty well.

statickx991
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truthfully, screw na, if i were u id go with a rb25, u can get a motor for around 2200 shipped to ur door, spend 500 get mckinny motor mounts, 300 for a driveshaft, do some wiring or send it to mckinny so some custom fab for a throttle cable and fuel lines and what not, and u got a nice car with a hell of a nice motor. all said and done, id say around 3500

Mocha
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statickx991 wrote:truthfully, screw na, if i were u id go with a rb25, u can get a motor for around 2200 shipped to ur door, spend 500 get mckinny motor mounts, 300 for a driveshaft, do some wiring or send it to mckinny so some custom fab for a throttle cable and fuel lines and what not, and u got a nice car with a hell of a nice motor. all said and done, id say around 3500
Well thats definitely something to consider. I thought an rb25 would go for a lot more. Thanks guys. Obviously I wont be able to do this in less than a month lol. Ill keep brainstorming and looking for some good deals. Once again, thank you guys!

Kalypso
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2jzgte 240sx



8000 total for motor and all required parts.you do the labor get the drifting.com kit or check out 2jzswap.com

and...

NA sr20de with individual throttle bodies

all of this is possible but fir it takes a job that pays well, the right tools, anda large room to work in,


Kalypso
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statickx991 wrote:truthfully, screw na, if i were u id go with a rb25, u can get a motor for around 2200 shipped to ur door, spend 500 get mckinny motor mounts, 300 for a driveshaft, do some wiring or send it to mckinny so some custom fab for a throttle cable and fuel lines and what not, and u got a nice car with a hell of a nice motor. all said and done, id say around 3500
rb25 is your best bet you wont regret it

but 3500, is too low, its more like 5000, because they're unexpected costs, like radiators, intercoolers. the list goes on.
Modified by Kalypso123 at 6:49 PM 7/2/2008

MastaYu
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I would go for the rb25

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Goldeneagle
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As with any decent build, up grade the suspension and brakes system before adding additional power to the car.

An individual can get their vehicle to put out a lot of power, at the wheels, and yet still have issues with stopping the car in time to avoid a collision.

Think suspension/handling and braking before power. Exterior/Interior stuff can be done when ever you choose.

twistedsymphony
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If you want NA power there go with an LS1 swap... all said and done it will cost about $8K with you doing the labor... way more reliable than a VQ, cheaper, and you get more power...

even still, you wont get a decent engine swap for $4K

Kalypso
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golden eagle is right,

all this talk of motor swaps is simply JDM hypeness.

practical science dicates that first and foremost you focus on suspension ad brakes.

you're car will magnify in fun factor even with the stock KA if the foot work is well tuned.


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