Got my suspension

[deans_s13]

Ok got my suspension KYB GR2 front and rear, coil overs, and a tien pillow top camber adj. but I have some questions on the coil overs I have, they have stickers on them and two say 350p and two say450p my friend and I was looking and figured wede just put the 450's on the back and the 350's on the front but if any one can tell me what these numbers represent. I would post pics but i dont know how
Modified by deans_s13 at 8:58 AM 2/25/2009

[Philipio]

Spring rate's going to be stiffer in the front. I'm guessing that's what it's referring to?

The fronts shouldn't fit in the back anyway, and vice versa, unless the S13 mounts are different or something.

[nissanman04]

Stiffer generally goes in front...

So you will be running a 450lb spring on a GR2? That'll probably blow pretty quick, sorry. GR2's are valved for spring rates close to stock....

edit: btw, to answer your question, the "450p" means that it takes 450 lbs of force to compress the spring 1".
Modified by nissanman04 at 4:55 PM 2/23/2009

[ZX88]

they will blow within six months well mine did at least.

[deans_s13]

Thanks thats what I was guessing, and as far as the shocks blowing (thats what your refering to right) there not going to see any track time at all if any thing theyll see mnt. roads other than that everyday driving, but i was on a budget and it was all i could affored, but what are some other choices that want break the bank? and I really would like to post pics any hints ??

[nissanman04]

Thanks thats what I was guessing, and as far as the shocks blowing (thats what your refering to right) there not going to see any track time at all if any thing theyll see mnt. roads other than that everyday driving, but i was on a budget and it was all i could affored, but what are some other choices that want break the bank? and I really would like to post pics any hints ??

It doesn't really matter what you'll be using them for...they will be seeing higher forces than they were designed for, and they will blow. The AGX's will handle some higher spring rates, and aren't that expensive. If you aren't afraid of doing a little DIY stuff (for the fronts), Koni yellows are fantastic. You would think people would look at all of the options before buying something, but hey, it's your money I guess.

[deans_s13]

I did look at all the options and like I said its all I could afford, the agx's over 500 the koni yellows over 400 the gr2's $188, also my friend put the gr2's on his toyo drifter, has been drifting for a year on them and they are doing fine, and before some of you smart asses say it, yes he has coil overs that are more extreme than mine and his car only weighs 200lbs. less. and when it comes to my car its all DIY. just cause i have only 11 or 12 post dosent meen im some young punk who dosent know anything.

[simmode1]

No one's calling you a young punk or whatever. We're just warning you ahead of time from experience. But hopefully your experience with this setup with be different from everybody elses...

[Space Monkey]

I did look at all the options and like I said its all I could afford, the AGX's over 500 the Koni yellows over 400 the gr2's $188, also my friend put the gr2's on his Toyo drifter, has been drifting for a year on them and they are doing fine, and before some of you smart asses say it, yes he has coil overs that are more extreme than mine and his car only weighs 200lbs. less. and when it comes to my car its all DIY. just cause i have only 11 or 12 post doesn't mean i'm some young punk who doesn't know anything.

Just to get this straight here...you say he was using the SAME KYB GR2's that you have no doing drifting for over a year, then state he has coilovers. What is it? You also stated in your OP that the KYB GR2's are coilovers. They are a strut+spring combo....not coilovers. You come across like you don't know anything, not because you have little amounts of posts, but because your using wrong terminology. Just chill out. The GR2's are OEM replacement struts by the way, put your OEM springs on them and be good to go.

[S13Joe]

Coilovers:YOUR Struts:

[visser003]

[deans_s13]

Just to get this straight here...you say he was using the SAME KYB GR2's that you have no doing drifting for over a year, then state he has coilovers. What is it? You also stated in your OP that the KYB GR2's are coilovers. They are a strut+spring combo....not coilovers. You come across like you don't know anything, not because you have little amounts of posts, but because your using wrong terminology. Just chill out. The GR2's are OEM replacement struts by the way, put your OEM springs on them and be good to go.

Just to set you straight I said he has the same GR2 struts as me with coil oversprings on them and I didnt say that I was getting GR2 as coil overs I forgot to put a comma there I know that the struts I got are just that... struts, shocks, what ever you want to call them, I already had the coil over springs that I had bought awhile back, I just needed new struts. If I had the money to buy a whole coil over setup I would have but I dont have that kind of luxury wish I did but I dont. I dont mean to piss anybody off I think this is a good thing going here people have problems , people have solutions and this is really the only place where I can find both together. But Ill keep every one updated and let you know all Ive done and how it works out, cause apparently it didnt for ever body else....

[ThuG LyFe]

well technically it's not a "coilover spring" it's just spring. maybe you mean lowering springs? gr2's aren't made to handle much and hopefully you have good luck and it won't blow.

[deans_s13]

No I meant coil over springs, i bought them off a guy here that had f***ed his s*** up, the shock part was worthless so I salvaged the springs, I fabricate went to Nashville Auto Diesle College (Shameless name drop) for it, this kind of work is nothing new to me, putting everything together that is, but I ve never done it on my vehicals Ive seen cars go 190 mph on stuff Ive built and not crash or malfunction, so Im pretty confident that theyll turn out alright. But thanks for the support

[S13Joe]

dude, GR2's are pretty much stock replacement, and why do you think the shocks blew on that guys springs? becuase they arent supposed to be on there. As for building stuff that has gone 190mph... then why did you think your ALMOST stock struts are coilovers? i call BS.

[smocan]

No I meant coil over springs, i bought them off a guy here that had f***ed his s*** up, the shock part was worthless so I salvaged the springs, I fabricate went to Nashville Auto Diesle College (Shameless name drop) for it, this kind of work is nothing new to me, putting everything together that is, but I ve never done it on my vehicals Ive seen cars go 190 mph on stuff Ive built and not crash or malfunction, so Im pretty confident that theyll turn out alright. But thanks for the support

I wouldn't trust anything you work on... you can't even spell. Its one thing if you make a mistake, but its obvious you just don't know how to. If your such a fabricator, show us some pics and what you did. Your not making any sense with your explanations and are only digging your hole deeper.

You might be confused, if you used a spring from a true coilover, you have nothing to compare to a coilover. Your most likely utilizing a spring that has a spring rate no where near the proper rate for your "struts." so essentially, its probably a far worse setup than if you had off the shelf lowering springs for the car. Or you have an ebay fake coilover sleeves which are junk and aren't really coilovers. Get some pics and some real information.

[deans_s13]

Like I said before in my OP I would post pics but dont know how

As for building stuff that has gone 190mph... then why did you think your ALMOST stock struts are coilovers? i call BS.

When did I say I thought my ALMOST stock struts were coil overs?

[Drewster]

190 mph is pretty fast for someone that can't figure out spring rates

[!Zar!]

OP: I really hope you didn't buy KYB GR2's as an upgrade. They are OEM replacements.

And chances are your, "drifter" friend isn't a real drifter.

Just a local town parking lot drifter.

You think $500 is expensive for any sort of damping? You have got to be kidding me.

Go sell your car and start catching the bus.