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UsedToOwn240SX
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Sup people,

Just got the motor 2 days ago. Red top. Looks clean from the outside (maybe they clean it up before shipping it). Few questions:1. I know that in order to do proper compression test, the engine has to be at operating temp. I was gonna do it before I put it in the car, i.e. cold. How bad will the measurement will be? And is the compression test detrimental to the engine since the oil has been drained?2. Damn the japs, I found a used-up 3 puck clutch disk in it. Any idea of what kind of clutch it is?3. I took the PS off the SR and compared it with that of the KA. The KA has bigger diameter 3-rib pulley while the SR has 4-rib, smaller pulley. I supposed I have to either swap the pulley and still use the KA pump or swap the whole thing. What did you guys do on yours? Will I have fitment problem if I try the pulley swap? Will I have plumbing issue with I go with swapping the whole thing?4. Rear crankshaft main seal. How do you get it out? I even tried to take the retainer with no success. Any tips?

Thanks


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goldollar
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Sup man congradulations on the motor, makes me jealus. Alot of people do compression test on there motors with it still in the clip, Thats how the importers test the motors, i dont know about the oil to be honest with you. Also if your gonna stay with power steering then just use your ka pump, all the bolts line up except one but no big deal, If your pump is busted or something then you will have to swap pullys, but that s no big deal either, i say lose the power steering, you get a better feal from the road, and the steering respons is better too, but thats just my opinion, good luck with the swap. Lets see some pictures please:)

Zaxx84
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Doesn't the three puck clutch come stock in the SR's?? I know I got one in mine, Sport Compact Car got one in theirs, and almost everyone I have seen has gotten the same clutch out of their fresh imported SR's.

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SpeedRacer1
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This is what the stock SR clutch is. Any puck clutch is an upgrade, can you say 'drifting.'

S13240
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I agree with SpeedRacer1, both of my sr motors came with stock clutches.

chezina
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A "used-up 3 puck clutch disk" would make me wonder!:confused: Which way was the car abused in Japan?Just my thought.

Phax
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chezina wrote:A "used-up 3 puck clutch disk" would make me wonder!:confused: Which way was the car abused in Japan?Just my thought.


I think it's pretty much a given that any SR20DET that comes from Japan will have been used and abused. :mad:

Zaxx84
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Just imagine if people in Japan are trying to import our muscle engines into their country. ie. corvette engines, etc. and they were going through the same things that we are. "I wonder if this one was beat on?" while they look at some ****ty old Camaro engine. LOL that would be strange.

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Why are you going to swap you P/S pulley? If you do, the pulley on your pump and your crank pulley will not match up.

And no, 3 puck clutches are not stock, not at all. Thats drifter++

UsedToOwn240SX
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Damn those Japs! Can't they drive like grandmas overhere? LOL. American grandmas do drifting too with their buicks! Especially here in the midwest in the middle of ice-storm. Lol. I did take a look at the flywheel, it has at least a 2mm groove from the 3 puck clutch. I'm thinking of getting a Fidanza, rather than taking chances of machine it out and later grenade out of the housing. I will pose the clutch and flywheel later. Don't have the camera with me at the moment. Bud, the PS pump+pulley combo of the SR and KA are different. I'm not sure if the pump itself is the same. Did you use the SR pump+pulley combo on your car? At the moment, I'm missing lots of parts on the SR. Things like MAF, MAF-to-turbo rubber pipe, igniter, engine & trans mounts, even the retainer springs in the clutch fork. Man, I hate this. Do you guys miss some parts too when you got your engine? Lastly, what about compression test of a cold motor? Would it hurt the motor? Would it produce innacurate result? I would like to do that especially after I saw that used-up 3 puck clutch.

Thanks,

BuudWeizErr
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No, my engine was not missing anything. That is what happens when you buy your motor from a crappy source. Thats what being cheap does.

I used my SR pump and pulley. There is no reason to swap it to a KA pump. I don't know why you would. The only pump you might want to swap is 91+ A/C compressor, but that will only bolt up with 2 bolts.

Tai Mai Shu
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Not to be uuhhh yeah...Japs is a Racist slur, so save youself the flaming and just say japanese. like what? 5 extra letters to type...

Also if you do a compression test while its cold is fine, what you are looking for is about the same compression in all cly. aslong as there is compression.

BLiTz
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Yea, not to be getting on anyones case, but please show some respect for the Japanese...would any of you guys want to be called Crackers by the Japanese?

UsedToOwn240SX
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Oops, sorry to offend anyone with my use of words. OK, I'll rephrase it: Damn those Japanese.... And Tai Mai Shu, I don't want to be called Cracker, since I'm not one. Bud, did you have any problem fitting the SR PS pump to the existing plumbing? I got my engine from HT for $2500. They're willing to send the MAF & igniter, but want to charge me for the intake hose. I tried not to be cheap. That's why I ordered it from HT, a reputable source. I just didn't expect missing parts from a reputable source. Not to mention the motor came with scratches on the valve cover. That one is minor, I can deal with that, but I want a complete engine after I paid $2500.

Cyberkreig
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my valve cover was cosmeticaly damaged too.. Not to mention their shipping company got the motor to the shop several days late.. causing me to get bumped on the shops work list. But in all honesty that part isnt HT's fault.

I didnt know that "jap" was racial. so if i've said that in the past i take it back..

NY S13 SR
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Give us a call, we have several extra valve covers, piles of stock clutch parts etc. Clutch fork and spring / retainer are the same as the 240sx ones.

The rubber intake tube is often damaged or missing, we do not guarantee that or the o2 sensor since they are so often damaged. I have a brand-new one in stock I will sell you for our cost if you want it.

MAFS and ignitor have been sent - Check your mailbox.......we have piles of them.

Stock SR ps pump should be on your engine, no reason to use KA pump.

We also have a stock flywheel and clutch you can have for free to replace the damaged / 3 puck one, or again we can sell you an aftermarket FW at our cost.

I guarantee the compression is good, it has been tested at least once. I have seen a few 3 puck clutches in SR's but most have the stock clutch still in them. Many many people NEVER modify their cars at all.

Jeff HHeavy Throttle Performance

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JJ240
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Off topic beware: Why is an abbreviation of the word japanese a racial slur do you really take offense to it? I am sure he has nothing against japanese people, hes driving a japanese car buying specific japanese parts for it. And you automatically assumed he was white because he was using a word you thought was a racial slur? I think thats very racist of YOU. Although I dont take offense to it because I understand it wasnt intended to be used in an offensive way. Maybe you should try that.

BLiTz
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Well now your taking it the wrong way, i wasn't taking it offensively, im not japanese, and knowone offended me, i was just saything that to me is doesn't sound really racist, just seems incorrect, and i wasn't assuming he was white, i was just comparing 2 words that are commonly used. Calm down and stay on topic from now on please:D

Tai Mai Shu
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My single cam lines bolted right up to my SR lines, but I had to use the DOHC Resuvoue that came with my clip.

UsedToOwn240SX
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I got all the missing parts from HT free of charge. Thanks Jeff/Yury. You guys are the best!:D I will use the SR PS pump. I just got the old leaking rear main seal out. I made mistake by taking the the 4 bolts + 2 nuts that hold the seal retainer. I should have not done that. Now I have to take off the aluminum (and hence the steel oil pans to properly put it in. Oh well, my mistake. The stock turbo compressor wheel is scraped from the center to middle of the radius. Something hard must have gone in there. However, the damage is only on the edge of the blades. I'm concerned about the balance of the wheel now. Rebuild? Used turbo? Upgrade? How much $$$? The manual transmission dust cover has been removed and I'm still trying to put the US version in. Spent like 2 hours with no avail. Any tips? I'm putting it in the freezer and will try it again tomorrow.

Nathan
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I dont give a **** if someone calls me a cracker, why should I? It's only a racial slur if you choose to be offended by it. If your japanese and someone calls you a jap...just call them a cracker or whatever the appropriate slur is, that simple :D do we have to ALWAYS be PC? its getting ridiculous

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I actually love the term cracker I use it all the time. Being the WASP I am I find it hilarious. But I do see your point, The japanese created this beautiful motor so show them some respect when you refer to thier culture. its okay to PC sometimes after all PC is only another term for respect.

UsedToOwn240SX
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Please don't change the thread to a racial issue. I did not mean to disrespect anyone. I didn't know that term is sensitive to others. So please forgive me. Sorry from the bottom of my heart. Can we go back to the SR issue please? If not, moderator please close the thread.


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