got fuel and spark but no start.

[beans33]

hey Im really about to give up, after putting the head and intake manifold back on i hooked everything back up. I tried to start it but it would just turn over. took off the fuel line and gas went everywhere, i also took off the coilpack and spark plug and it was also getting spark. I really dont know what else to do.

[boost_boy]

hey Im really about to give up, after putting the head and intake manifold back on i hooked everything back up. I tried to start it but it would just turn over. took off the fuel line and gas went everywhere, i also took off the coilpack and spark plug and it was also getting spark. I really dont know what else to do.

Congratulations on doing a head job. not hardest job, but certainly not a walk in the park either. First of all, make sure your orange wire engine harness wire is connected to the dash harness's orange wire. Are your fuel hoses connected properly? Check all grounds. The CA's electronics is notorious for playing-up and causing a no-start condition with available fuel and spark. Lastly, remove the fuel pump fuse and use starting fluid to see if it will start. If you put the fuel injector wires on wrong this will also cause your issues. try these things and let us know..............

Dee

[pulsar gtr]

Well, you did take the head out, which means you removed the CAS and the timing belt.

If you are getting spark, your problem can very well be two things.1) your timing belt is off.2) when your removed the CAS, you broke the latch (half moon piece latch) that is on the exhaust side which when you installed the CAS back on, you are getting all over the place reading from the cas.Remove the cas, and look through the hole where the cas bolts on and inspect the camshaft latch to see whether it is broken or not.

Good luck,

RafiPULSAR GTR

[beans33]

hey boost boy i took the fuel pump fuse out and sprayed a LITTLE starting fluid in each cylinder and nothing happend . I also noticed when im trying to start the car the tach is not jumping around. Does this have anothing to do with the orange wire that your were talking about. As far as the timing belt goes its on right, I had a couple people help me with it. Ill check on the CAS now. thanks

[pulsar gtr]

Was the car running fine before the head job, or you never had the engine in the car in the first place and thats your first swap in this car?

RafiPULSAR GTR

[beans33]

na it ran fine for about 3 months and then I replaced the front main seal, and hasnt ran since.

[teddy]

My swap woudlnt start up the first few minutes when we tried. The culprit was old gas and the timing was off.

[lifelicksballs]

if it sparks and and fuel comes out...shouldnt it be that the cas is just off

[beans33]

i guess it wouldnt hurt to put some new gas in there. But if anyone can give me a step by step on what to check it would really help. I guess im goin to take the front cover off tommorow and check it again, then go from there. Is there anyway to tell if a CAS is bad ? And what woudld a bad dropping resistor make it not start. What exactly does it do ? thanks guys

[imprecation]

do you have proper compression on all 4?

[pulsar gtr]

The resistor packs don't usually go bad, since there are 4 resistors in there, if one goes bad, your car should still fire up on 3 cylinders, so 99% it is not your resistor pack unless if it is not installed or you have the power wire that goes to it is broken.

Did you do diagnostics on the ecu to see what kind of codes it is giving you?

If he is getting a spark, that cas is good, it is just does have the right timing due to couple things, timing belt is not set properly, or when he removed his cas, he broke the latch that is on the exhaust camshaft.

Here is how to inspect the camshaft.1)remove the cas, you don't need to remove the cover where the cas bolts on.2) look through the hole of the cover where the cas usually goes and you should be able to see your exhaust camshaft end, It should have a latch, nipple where ever you want to call it, this latch should go inside the shaft of the CAS itself. If that latch/nipple is not on the camshaft, you broke it and you need a new camshaft.

RafiPULSAR GTR

[boost_boy]

hey boost boy i took the fuel pump fuse out and sprayed a LITTLE starting fluid in each cylinder and nothing happend . I also noticed when im trying to start the car the tach is not jumping around. Does this have anothing to do with the orange wire that your were talking about. As far as the timing belt goes its on right, I had a couple people help me with it. Ill check on the CAS now. thanks

If you are positively sure you put your timing belt on correctly, codes on your ecu display is 55, you have spark, everything is grounded, and your car ran before, you may want to look into the areas that you worked around such as the engine harness.

As for the crank angle sensor and the key that turns it that's apart of the exhaust camshaft, you car should still run. The crank angle sensor is not only turned by the by the 2 keys between it and the camshaft, but also the seal that's on the crangle sensor's shaft. It's kinda like a failsafe that when all the bolts back out and fall while you're driving, the seal will hold the crank angle sensor in place and also if one of the 2 keys break, the seal also serves as a secondary means of the camshaft driving the shaft of the crank angle sensor.

Beans, you don't need to remove the spark plugs to spray starting fluid! Just spray it down the throat of your throttle body and if doesn't start, then your spark is too weak (if you say spark is present); because no matter what, your engine will do something with starting fluid if you have spark.

Dee

[beans33]

here is a pic

[Rookieca18det]

How long was the car sitting... I had my car sitting for a while waiting on pistons and when the time came to drive it over to the shop to get the pistons installed it wouldnt start. I checked everything... damn thing still wouldnt turn over. Anyway turns out the battery was just low on juice one jump and she started right up. Good luck figuring her out.

-richard

[beans33]

i just tried to jump it off but it didnt start either. How would compression go bad if the car ran fine before I put the new front seal on. Since then its just been sitting. I guess ill go back out and stare at it some more, maybe something will pop in my mind....... ?

[imprecation]

didn't you say you took the head off? If you didn't do everything correctly then you might have a compression loss. I'm actually having a really similar problem that you're having right now, I bought a second hand motor that some guy rebuilt. It won't start either and i have spark and fuel. So I'm starting to suspect the compression or the timing because I give up on everythign else.

[sideways danny]

those

here is a pic

cam splines look very worn

[beans33]

hey, well after looking after my exhuast camshaft i noticed that the latch indeed is broken. thank you pulsar gtr. Im not gonna get my hopes up though but im gonna switch out my cam and see what happens.. ?

[Rookieca18det]

Yo beans shoot me an email ([email protected]) so I can find out if the turbo got shipped out and if you have date when this will be at my house. Thanks

-richard

[pulsar gtr]

Well Beans33, if you for sure have verified that the camshaft latch is broken, I will say that 99% that your engine will run after replacing your exhaust cam.Make sure you set your timing belt correctly after replacing the cam.

Advice, put some grease inside the CAS shaft this way you can easly can remove the cas if you need to some time down the road.

Good luck,RafiPULSAR GTR

[beans33]

I T S T A R T E D. thanks pulsar gtr your a genius....

[imprecation]

congrats man