Got an itching feeling for a new (to me) car

[Looneybomber]

Ok I'm a major 2wheel fan. You can't beat em! For less than 10g you have a vehicle that pulls sub 10's in the ¼ and a tad over 1g in the turns. Not to mention 0-100-0 before a vette Z06 will hit 100. But anyway enough bragging.

I have a few ideas running through my head.Trans-am/camaro SS (with the LS-1)throw in a cam then supercharge it.Fox body mustang, lota engine stuff and supercharge it.Another idea i had was a Miata with a 13b in it. (but it'll still be slow )

However I won't buy anything for a while. I'm just getting ideas. And I might buy a new bike instead. But I wanted to get your guys's oppinion (cuz i know its biased) to see what you think.

[Rex]

VMax, plain and simple.

The 05's are sweet .

[Looneybomber]

Whats a VMax?

BTW if you suggest a different car, It CAN'T be FWD I repeat CAN'T BE FWD!!! And you have to give a reason why you suggested that car other then "they're bad @ss dude!" Tell me why they are so bad @ss

[Rex]

A 2 wheel guy asks "What's a V-Max?"



Most manufacturers no longer make HP claims or even post numbers, but the V-Max is one of the baddest. Some say 145
Modified by Rex at 10:52 PM 11/7/2004

[Jesda]

I vote for the Miata.

[Looneybomber]

Ohh I thought u were talking about some car called the VMax. And is started thinking of some weird maxima. I didnt know u were suggesting a cruiser bike. I wont own one of them. Waste of money if you ask me.

*edit* Ok i was talking with one of my friends...came up with another idea.Late model fox body GT(91-93) with a bad engine. Drop in a 98+ 4.6L DOHC cobra engine. Do some bolt on mods and supercharge it. Pros-Good hp, live axle good for drifting (woohoo) and good for drag racing (boring)Cons-Will be lucky to pull .88g's (boring)
Modified by Looneybomber at 10:14 PM 11/7/2004

[Mr1der]

the VMax is half cruiser...

first production bike into 10 second 1/4 times...

I'd have to vote the Fox body with a 4.6 DOHC swap and two spinny things off the exhaust manifolds.

[Looneybomber]

the VMax is half cruiser...

first production bike into 10 second 1/4 times...

I'd have to vote the Fox body with a 4.6 DOHC swap and two spinny things off the exhaust manifolds.

Oh you punk, u beat me to my idea! LOLI must argue though, a VMax wont do 10's unless the info i have read on them is wrong. Besides when were they first produced? (im up to par on sport bikes, but not much on anything else)

[Rex]

VMax came out in 1985, hasn't changed much since then, looks/performance. Bone stock is more like LOW 11's, simple mods (pipes/jets) can get you into the 10's.

EDIT: Nice little read.

[JDMaholic]

For a bike how bout a CBX, you can't beat an inline 6 cylinder transversly mounted on a bike, my friend had one absolute blast to ride, I liked it better than my ZX6

For cars1. Acura NSX, this was a car I've always wanted. They can be had for under 20k and you get alot for you money, truely good styling, supercar handling and an engine with all kinds of potential, imagine one turboed, or supercharged . I mean these cars were almost 100k new for a reason. And more importantly they are rare, not like a civic where you see 1000 of em a day

2. Porche 928, they had a rear mounted transmission and aluminum body parts with 50/50 ratio long before chevy ever thought about doing the c5. You can get them for incredibly cheap, 4-15k depending on year and make, and the later ones had power to boot.

3. Miata....wait did I say that...yep I sure did miata, as long as you can beat off the less than heterosexual guys that keep buggin you for a ride in you posh new ride, they are a suprisingly agaile a fun to drive car, put a 13b in one and you may even be able to pick up a few chicks. Light weight plus rear wheel drive = fun and cheap speed. I can't imagine an SR20 sould be to hard to cram into one of these little flamboiant machines, and besides you can pick up a 1st gen miata for virtually nothing and the 2nd gen is still very affordable although a little more heavy.

4. BMW Z3, they are kinda of like the heterosexual cousin of the miata, light agile, you can pick one up for around 10k, closer to 15 if you want the inline 6 in descent condition. BMW 6 cylinders are simply awesome, for a little money you could easily have 300+ hp in a car that light. If you were to trbo it, hold on bladder control becomes difficult

5. Pontiac Fiero, if your looking to go cheap these can be had for less than a decent hooker on the weekend and with less VD to go around. they are light RWD, and just like a good woman if you do a transplant and adjust a few things to make them better proportioned you end up with a result that stuns your lower body. Imagine an LS1 in one 1/4 mile terror, Or if you want something that handles and is Nissanish try putting an SR, or if you feel real ambitious a VG or VQ in one

[Looneybomber]

JDM, those are good idea's. Some of those cars i never even considered. Miata's are fun cars to drive but man are they painfully slow! The old ones with the 1.6 are rated at what 120hp? Dropping in a 13b out of an FD, they're rated at 260hp? That is still guna be a slow car But it will make it more fun to drive I looked at Z3's about a year ago. Though even with the big I6 in them, it will still need forced induction to suit my taste. My stardards are, unfortunatly, set pretty high.

About the bike CBX vs ZX6. Have you ridden any of todays superbikes? Bikes are advancing like cell phones. The old ones still work fine, but the new ones are bad ***! The 600's of today have nearly the same HP as the 1000's did 10 years ago, but weigh 100lbs less give or take. 100lbs in the bike world is a LOT! thats more than a 25% reduction. Equivalent to a VR4 dropping 1000lbs

[MinisterofDOOM]

Please, do not be one of the people who helps to continue the spread of the plague that is the Fox-platform Mustang. It was obsolete in 1978 when it was introduced. Now its just annoying.

I vote Miata. But forget the rotary. Leave in the original four and turbo it. It won't be "fast" but it'll be quick and agile and fun as hell to drive.

Or get a '98 Maxima. Great bodystyle, great engine, great acceleration...If you have the money, get a '93 or '94 and swap in a VQ30 or VQ35, since that generation had IRS, and the '98 did not. Then you'd have handling, acceleration, looks, reliability, a good exhaust not, and seating for five with four doors.

[Looneybomber]

But why not yank that 4banger and drop in a 13b. Sure it's a lot of work but i will get more HP out of that and not mess up the weight distro at all. Like i said in a previous post. I am open to suggestions, plus I am learning so informative reasons are very welcome.

*edit* what year did the maxima switch over to FWD? I would rather drive the gayest RWD car (the miata) than have the gayest drivetrain

[MinisterofDOOM]

Only when it was still known as the 810 (70's, early 80's) was the Max rear wheel drive. Both generations I mentioned above (third and fourth) are front wheel drive. I've got a third gen and I love it. Its got a SOHC 3 liter that only makes 160hp but its still a blast to drive, and it puts that power to the ground well. My dad has a 2004 that makes 265. First year since 1994 to have IRS. Handles great, but the 265 horses make for bad torque steer.

I lose respect for people rapidly when the talk about fwd being "gay." FWD has its advantages. While I prefer RWD myself, that does not mean I automatically hate my Maxima. My '93 will run circles around any Miata, first, because it is a better car. Second, because I can drive it well. I wouldn't trade my Max for ten Miatas. Don't go around shopping for cars with uneducated notions like "FWD is bad" in your head. You'll never have any fun.

Sorry, not trying to sound like a jerk, but there really is NOTHING wrong with FWD. It's just a matter of preference, like anything else. Give it a decent chance, and you might find it has its plusses.

As for the rotarty swap, it could be fun, and yeah, you'd get more horsepower. If those are things you are looking for, then go for it. It'd be a great way to get to know your car and have some fun putting your personal touch on it.

My personal opinion is horsepower is not always the only think that matters. In fact, when its horsepower vs. torque, there is no question. Horsepower is essentially pointless without torque to back it.

[JDMaholic]

Yes I've ridden and owned many bikes including modern ones and I agree with you the CBX is not going to beat probably any modern bikes, well maybe Harley just becasue the mullets and grease slow things down. But that was not why I suggested it the 250, and 305(not sure of exact cc's) race bikes that Mike Hailwood won on are what it was derived from where what put Honda on the map, It's also the only inline 6 that I know of and is quite rare. It runs something like an 11.5 1/4 which is respectable from a bike in the hooligan bike era of the late 70's. I'm a nostalgic guy and like the bike for those reasons, and the sound is incredible absolutely awesome, Even Jay Leno rides one. But ya if your after speed definitely not for you, I almost killed myself on a bike so I don't ride them as hard as I used to.

[Looneybomber]

Doom: I hear ya. I have driven FWD cars in the past. The only manuals (the autos were family cars) i have driven hard in the past were a lancer and a 3000gt. I didn't like the handling characteristics of them, though they were both fun. Just didn't have a racey feel and I didn't feel like an active part of the car. To me RWD requires more of my attention, adjusting throttle and counter steering. I will say I am no race car driver and could have been driving the lancer all wrong, which could have been the case. It's just that I am used to RWD vehicles.If you have lost respect in me because of my condesending oppinion of FWD, that is unfortunate. I do have a negative oppinion about FWD just because i have a driving style not suited for it.

Back on topic. I had someone mention a cobra kit car. Sounds interesting, real light weight, good handling and good HP to boot.

JDM: I would love to get my hands on a 125cc 2 stroke GP bike. Not a lot of HP but they're so light weight you can throw them around like a bicycle.

[574-240sx]

I would look into the RX-7(FD) with a LS1. If you are planning on spending money this would be a great swap. There are also many people who have done it too.