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Lavondyss
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SR20DET Motor Swap $3000Includes parts and CHEAP labor.

Electromotive TEC3 $1300

Oval Port Tial 40mm External Wastegate $300550cc Injectors $350Greddy FMIC (W/Polydyne Black Coating) $800GFB StealthFX BOV $300Custom Exhaust Manifold $500T3/T04E Turbo $500Greddy Profec B Electronic Boost Controller $200Oil Lines $50Greddy Turbo Timer $70VDO Boost Gauge $30Piping $150Flanges + Gaskets $50RX7 Oil Cooler $20Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump $653" Stainless Steel Downpipe $1503" High Flow Cat $603" Piping $1503 3" High Flow Mufflers $250

Aftermarket Clutch $350Lightweight Flywheel $400

So, here's what I need help with. I need to scrape about $2k or so off this list, but considering this is almost $10k worth of stuff, that shouldn't be too hard. The Labor is going to be next to nothing. My roomate works at a local shop. Some of the things I'm questioning, are:

Injectors, will MKIV Supra injectors work? They're side feed after all, and 550cc, and can be had for around $150.

Better option on the FMIC? I don't care what it looks like, function is my main concern. Please, no comments on cutting up a Diesel Truck IC! If anyone can get these kits cheaper, I would greatly appreciate knowing about it!

Anyone know about the 3000gt vr4 BOV? My roomate swears by them! If not, I might lean towards a crushed 1g dsm bov.

Clutch! The only one I can find at a decent price is an ACT. I had one on my old hb, with an Integra Type R motor in it, and it held up GREAT, but I've heard some bad stories about ACT clutches. And I don't believe Clutchmaster makes one for the RWD SR. Any other companies you guys reccomend in this price range?

I know the 3 muffler thing seems absurd. But I want a QUIET QUIET QUIET car. Thus the BOV I chose. And if you didn't notice the black polydyne coating on the FMIC, you'll see what I'm aiming for!

Price on the Lightweight Clutch seems pretty good so far, any other reccomendations?

Is there anything I missed? There's always SOMETHING, and I would appreciate any advice you guys have!

Bigger Turbo? I've got a t3/t04b turbo, but It's only rated up to 350 hp. I'm looking for the sub-mid 400hp range eventually.

Thanks,Charles Weller


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SpeedRacer1
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Maybe you should start by telling us what engine you want first. Some of those parts are very cheap. HPI makes an intercooler kit for the S13 that was about 500-600 or so. Or you could take one off a Starion. Just get an atmospheric BOV since a recirc probably wont be doing any good with the amount of power you want.

You sound like your trying to make a 400 hp sleeper sports car but then killing it with triple mufflers, quieter bov's etc to drop the rating to 350hp which to me seems stupid.

If your nickle and diming it from the begining then i'd say give up now.

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That list is 10,000 worth of stuff, and the prices you have listed are way lower than what you are actually going to pay unless you have some insane hookup. The more obvious ones are the Profec B and the Walbro... the best prices I have EVER seen are $300 and $95, respectively. Again, unless you have some crazy hookup, or a very generous friend, an engine installed for $3000, I would be weary of, but again, I'm very cautious. Again, a high flow cat for $60? I think the best I have seen is like $80 or $90, with a Random or Catco being at least $100. I see that your friend works at a shop, be that as it may, those are some awesome prices. Man, if you can hook up a Profec B for $200, I'll give you a percentage of that price for you to keep.

About the muffler, wouldn't it be easier just to go to a shop and ask them to put 3 or 4 resonators on it, and then just have one exhaust canister? It's probably going to be a PITA to hook up 3 mufflers and not have them dragging on the ground. If you have a shop that can mandrel bend IC pipes, you could always get a Spearco core, I think they are around the $600 neighborhood.

You are also forgetting about the stupid little crap that nickel and dimes you to death when you do your swap. I just found out today I get to replace my brake cylinder, which is going to take out more money from my "performance fund." If you are getting a FMIC kit, you are going to need a small battery or a relocation kit, unless you are getting custom pipes.

If I were you, get that stuff swapped, make sure it's running well, do the 5-50-500 test, then start adding stuff on. Your swap really shouldn't be an Off-On type thing anyway. You should take it in steps.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. It's late and I'm tired.

Lavondyss
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I've done this before. I Live on the following forums:

http://www.houston-imports.comhttp://ww ... w.ebay.com

The nickel and dime stuff I have $2k set aside for. My ROOMATE/BUSINESS PARTNER works at a shop. The labor is free (i.e. I keep bringing him business, do his laundry, cook him dinner, get him laid, clean the house) Those are not bottom of the barell prices, I round up. The mufflers are resonators... You can get thin, but good functioning mufflers that won't go out of range. You CAN purchase 3" mufflers from almost any muffler shop for around $50, and they WILL NOT restrict anything, all they do is MUFFLE the noise. I appreciate the advise on the BOV, but the ones I'm looking at aren't going to pull 50hp off my setup. Quiet is a must where I live, racing is rampant, and I've already had over 40 speeding tickets (only 3 of them are on my record, and I don't street race any more) Starion Intercoolers don't flow that well (Contrary to popular belief) You would actually get better function out of a 1g dsm smic (http://home.earthlink.net/~tur....html). Buying a spearco core is too expensive, I then have to have the Entanks made, and the piping. I found a Spearco FMIC that is the exact dimensions I was looking for for $350, but the piping outlets are only 2". It's brand new, sitting in a friends garage. I appreciate the input on the HPI FMIC, I'll look into that as an alternative. I am getting custom pipes, but am doing the battery relocation anyway, it costs $11 to do, so I didn't even include that in my list, I appreciate the reminder though.

Thanks for the help guys. keep dishing it out, I can always use more insight!

To answer the question. I'm trying to build a daily driver that is comfortable, decent looking, and is fun to drive. Speed is nice, but I'm more of a control freak than anything. And if you didn't notice, something of a research nut (hey, that's what I do for a living).

On the Profec B, you can paypal me $280, and I'll ship it out for free. [email protected]Or better than that, just check honda-tech.com and ebay, they pop up all the time for less than $200. There's two on ebay right now for $150 with less than a day left!

Thanks,Charles Weller

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Sorry to bring up an old thread. SpeedRacer1, where did you find HPI FMIC for $500-600? I'm thinking of getting this FMIC since it includes the hot pipe. I only want to use the bypass valve (recirculating valve) for drivability reason.

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Where did you get the Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump for $65?

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You say install will be next to nothing, but what about the unforseen possible problems. The motor may not start and you may need to fork out some dough. My advice is to get the basic stuff to get the motor working properly. Like intercooler, exhaust, clutch, and other basic stuff. Once it is running then get the stuff you can afford. You don't have to jump to a T3/T4 right away. Unless your turbo is seized. But anyway my advice is get the basic stuff first. PS I have the ACT 6 puck race clutch and I highly recommend it. Best of luck. And watch out for those cops.;)

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UsedToOwn240SX wrote:Sorry to bring up an old thread. SpeedRacer1, where did you find HPI FMIC for $500-600? I'm thinking of getting this FMIC since it includes the hot pipe. I only want to use the bypass valve (recirculating valve) for drivability reason.


Unfortunately, as time goes on, prices go up. About 8 months ago when HPI intercoolers were first sold they went for about that price, since no one had heard of them people were weary. Suppliers quickly sold out of all the intercoolers in the US, now that they are slowly being sold again im pretty sure the price is closer to $800.

http://www.srswap.com/shopexd.asp?id=404

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Do you really need the $400 flywheel? Just machine or step the current one??????

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The average price for an upgraded chrom moly flywheel is about $400. You can use the stock flywheel that has been resurfaced but it could wear out faster when mated to an upgraded clutch.

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Lavondyss wrote: My ROOMATE/BUSINESS PARTNER works at a shop. The labor is free (i.e. I keep bringing him business, do his laundry, cook him dinner, get him laid, clean the house)


I wish I had a gf that would do all that stuff.

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If you are using tec 3, why is motor and labor to put it in $3000?shaun

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SpeedRacer1 wrote:If your nickle and diming it from the begining then i'd say give up now.


I second.

If your going to do something, do it right.

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pampadori wrote:If you are using tec 3, why is motor and labor to put it in $3000?shaun


Good question

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Lavondyss wrote:I've done this before. I Live on the following forums:

http://www.houston-imports.comhttp://ww ... w.ebay.com


:boring

we see this everyweek....

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Lavondyss wrote: Quiet is a must where I live, racing is rampant, and I've already had over 40 speeding tickets (only 3 of them are on my record, and I don't street race any more) Thanks,Charles Weller


Are you saying that you've actually been given 40 tickets or should have been given 40 tickets? How old are you? And how is it that you still have your license?

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1bad180sx
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Where the hell are you going to buy an Electromotive Tec3 for $1300? Off of someone who just stole it?

The retail price for the Tec3 to run an SR20DET is over $2500. I got mine with HUGE discount for $2055 shipped.

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he lives in magic car land where car parts are always half price and every one is willing to help you out for free and of course this magic land is also where nothing ever goes wrong and you can get away with with buying everything from ebay...

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~What are the directions to this magic car land you speak of?:(

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WOW it appears that noone likes this guy. and quite frankly, now that i'm the newest of the posters around this thread...i think its time for a duel. I'VE HAD OVER 1500 TICKETS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS ALONE. i drove from grandmas house (you know, over the river and thru the woods) to mother hubbard's house in 14.455 minutes. shumacher beat me with 14.200. damn those new rules. anyway, i've got over 19,000 dollars to spend on my new go-kart, and i believe i can find a chevy ZR-1 swap kit for about 95 dollars, installed. (it DOES pay to have friends in high places, and mom is no exception.) uh-oh. just finished taking out the trash and ma's firing up the plasma cutter. time to go race prep!!

PEACE.

-drew

ps - dont bid on the 79 cent xk120 roadster on EBAY DOT F-ING COM cuz i already claimed it. kbye.

pps - that was not a shot toward ebay. ebay has its place and it rules the freaking world. i mean, where else will you find all those great cow-face oven mitts for so cheap??

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Ace wrote:~What are the directions to this magic car land you speak of?:(


Right at the end of that rainbow in the sky...hurry!

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It's not that I don't like the guy...I'm just trying to make sure that I understand what he's saying. So far, I don't get where he's coming from.

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stutt944 wrote:WOW it appears that noone likes this guy. and quite frankly, now that i'm the newest of the posters around this thread...i think its time for a duel. I'VE HAD OVER 1500 TICKETS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS ALONE. i drove from grandmas house (you know, over the river and thru the woods) to mother hubbard's house in 14.455 minutes. shumacher beat me with 14.200. damn those new rules. anyway, i've got over 19,000 dollars to spend on my new go-kart, and i believe i can find a chevy ZR-1 swap kit for about 95 dollars, installed. (it DOES pay to have friends in high places, and mom is no exception.) uh-oh. just finished taking out the trash and ma's firing up the plasma cutter. time to go race prep!!

PEACE.

-drew

ps - dont bid on the 79 cent xk120 roadster on EBAY DOT F-ING COM cuz i already claimed it. kbye.

pps - that was not a shot toward ebay. ebay has its place and it rules the freaking world. i mean, where else will you find all those great cow-face oven mitts for so cheap??


OMFG dude!!!! This is quite possibly the best post I have ever read in my entire life!!! you kick arse!

:D

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Aww man totally!Anyway gotta find magic land, BBL.

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Ah, the novelty of the idea has apparently outgrown your concern for the quality of the finished product. Do you just want to have an SR in your car, or do you want to have an SR that kicks ***! If I were going your route I could probably have an SR by now-and it would suck! Just for example, I just spend $320 on a Tomei fuel pump. I know I could have gotten a Walbro for about twice the amount you have set aside for one, but the fuel system is not something to skimp on. It goes like this from my Nismo mounts all the way down to the Nismo clutchline. As I always say-you get what you pay-really. I have bought parts for cheaper than I thought, only to find out the seller wasn't an authorized dealer. That was a pain when my header cracked in half and to fulfill the warranty I would have had to go through four different people/ companies to get a refund or replacement. I ended up just welding it back together, when I ought to have been entitled to a free boost controller or something. Anyway, I guess I'm being a sucker for piecing together only the finest SR parts and sometimes waiting months for them. You are probably the guy who rides the backseat to the street races only to give me a hard time about not having an SR installed yet when you see my 240, and get all excited and try to convince me to buy the red top you saw on ebay half an hour ago with no reserve and one hour left for $500. Most people like you are the ones trying to shrug off detonation and overheating when I ask them what's wrong with their car. Sure, they turbo'd their EK Civic before the next guy, sure they had an SR first in town, but they all run like crap. If you really have a great hookup, good for you! But then why are you asking people about this stuff? Lose the dreams-get a job

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:bowdown

I love ya man.

:rockon

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I was going to reply to speed racer's post about not nickle and diming but i think hokiruu just said it all.

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Ahmen!


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