Good plan?

[CherryRed240]

I have a 95 SE and I was wondering what an Injen Intake, Apex N1 Exhaust, Hotshot Headers, Camshaft, Cam Gears, and High Flow Cat or Downpipe would make for a HP increase. I was thinking close to 35hp.

[7thGear]

sure....

Injen Intake, - cold intake systeM? or short ram? Cold intake systems tend to make more power under the right conditions, but get dirty faster and usualy require some sort of cutting/molding of the car.

Apex N1 Exhaust- sure i guess, exhausts in general add 4-5 hp.... depends how large you go, too large and you lose low end torque, but gain it up top,

Hotshot Headers- adds for nice flow, usualy a popular among nissan drivers

Camshaft- well what camshaft are we talking about? a 250 or a 280?? you want a turbo friendly motor that makes power down low or a NA beast that makes power on top?

Cam Gears- how much do plan to advance or retard?

and High Flow Cat or Downpipe- this is usualy gray terretory and just increases air flow, nothing too big, usualy only needed if your breath in more air, cuz oyu need to spit it back out at the same speed.

35 hp? maybe, maybe not, strap it on and see for yourself, you also have to customize the engine to your own needs, and in my opinion you forgot one of they key parts, an modified ECU, something that you should think of first, if not a stand alone management system and enough reading so that you can operate it blind folded.

and as a warning to the next person whos thinking of a post like this, DONT DO IT, its worse than a sr vs ka post!!! takes diffrent strokes to move the world, want to know how much power a modification gains? try it out. Ive seen a magazine report a 16 torque gain from a simple intake system .

[Evil98Silvia]

Injen cold air intake is a waste and ugle and some 4 ft of piping. Ive put this in a few post, why would you want to buy another 4 foot long pipe that goes all the way across the engine bay? Move the battery to the trunk, you should anyway for weight reasons. Then go to a shop and have them weld some mandrel bent pipe for you to fit from your throttle body to the fender well on the side of the car that the throttle body is on. Of course itll be 2 peices, cost me only about 40 bucks for the pipes, 40 bucks for the K&N cone filter. Saves so much room under the hood, looks good to. Also while your at it take out ur mechanical fan and run that electrical one up.

-Pdm-racing.com stage 2 cams-hotshot headers, use heat wrap, who cares about the "looks"-apexi n1 duals-unorthodox racing pulley set-make sure you get a good clutch, spec stage 2 will do-light weight flywheel-B&M short shifter i highly recomend, just for the feel of it =)If you want a serious N/A 240 think about-port and polished head and intake manifold-high compression pistons

Hope this helps.

Robbie

[TomsMR2]

^ werd. CAI's are a joke. moving the battery is the BEST option.

btw, intake/exhaust/header should net you about 15hp max.

[7thGear]

CAI are a joke?

ok put a rubber stopper in your intake then we will see who is joking.

who doesnt want a large volume of dense air in their car? gee i sure dont, no siree, i want as restrictive an intake as possible, i'll make it out of 0.5" tubbing and bend it 50 times around the engine, and put the filter inside a box, inside a box, inside another box and put that the rear of my car, yeah, that will give me some power.

[7thGear]

btw i know you meant the injen intake.. but i still wanted to say that line ^_^

[Evil98Silvia]

Hmmmmm.... SO that was a dumb thing to say. What about spark plug wires? When you put new ones on do you notice BIG HP GAINS? NOPE! Then why do you get them? Because they make a small difference thats why. But im not gonna go out and spend 200 bucks on nology wires when I can go get 8.5 mm wires from PDM racing at anytime. Now if it came to a turbo then yea im gonna throw alot of money at that because that makes a real diffence. All we were saying is we arnt gonna throw tons of money towards a intake that makes alot of noise and adds 2 to 3 hp..... As far as pluggin you intake up, YOU can choke your car but im not, yea itll bog it out, yea you want your intake to be less restrictive, but you can only get it SO UN-restricted, lol. Upgraded plug wires dont do much for you but unplug one while your car is running, see how it runs then.

Robbie

[silviaNE]

well said. i have a feeling this post is goning to get ugly.

[7thGear]

hey hey, there is to be no dissin of spark plug wires... you can get them in a nice purple colour

and i'm gonna stop beating the dead horse now, i mean we can argue about intakes forever, and i mean forever.

Let the person doing it chose on his own free will.

GO CAI's!!.....

[silviaNE]

ditto. Spend your money the way you want to.

[corn322]

best bet would be to make your own intake, by moving the battary somewhere other than stock location, and running a pipe (pvc?) through the battary holder thingy. exhaust and headers, you'll get some more power available. also louder..... but who cares, right? as long as you arn't driving through neighborhoods at 3am at 5k rpm.

but yeah, you could also get some lightweight pullys, and take off the mechanical fan and put an electric one in.

7thgear is right, don't ski a thought on an ECU upgrade. and tuned cams. I/H/E and cams will get you some more power, but you really won't be able to take full advantage of it with the stock computer. and don't skimp on the fuel system, look into that too

in the end though, it's all about how much cash you wanna spend.

[TomsMR2]

CAI are a joke?

ok put a rubber stopper in your intake then we will see who is joking.

who doesnt want a large volume of dense air in their car? gee i sure dont, no siree, i want as restrictive an intake as possible, i'll make it out of 0.5" tubbing and bend it 50 times around the engine, and put the filter inside a box, inside a box, inside another box and put that the rear of my car, yeah, that will give me some power.

you just proved my point.

more piping = more friction. the less pipe you have, the LESS RESTRICTION YOU HAVE. cai is a joke. AEM can eat my ***.

you want as short an intake as possible, then route cool air to it.

intakes are just filters on sticks. its no god send, go as cheap, short, and effective as you can.. you're not gonna get huge gains here.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

SHORT AS POSSIBLE EH? WHY DONT U PUT THE AIR MASS THINGY AND CONNECT IT TO THE THROTTLE AND THEN CONNECT THE FILTER TO THAT? NO BENDS NO RESTRICTIONS NO NOTHING...LOLWOULDNT THAT WORK?JOE

[theronin]

SHORT AS POSSIBLE EH? WHY DONT U PUT THE AIR MASS THINGY AND CONNECT IT TO THE THROTTLE AND THEN CONNECT THE FILTER TO THAT? NO BENDS NO RESTRICTIONS NO NOTHING...LOLWOULDNT THAT WORK?JOE

If the space was available thats what i would do... but then you would have to worry about the heat getting to the filter and possibly messing with the temp sensor and maf's... but then again what do i know!?

[C-Kwik]

Ok, do some of you even know what CAI is. Cold Air Intake. Means the filter is in a place where the source air is about as cool as ambient air as opposed to being sucked in from the hot engine compartment. Putting the filter on either side would be a CAI. If you want to argue about long tube intakes, keep in mind long tubes tend to have a small resonance effect that actually increases power at certain RPM's depending on the length of the tube.

CherryRed240: As far as 35 hp as an estimate for those mods, SCC magazine had a project 240 years back and it pulled off about 154 HP at the wheels with bolt on mods similar to the ones you mention. Keep in mind, many mods may make a pretty good claimed HP, but it may not be an increase in peak HP, but rather a peak increase in HP. There is a difference. Adding up numbers on top of each other is rarely accurate. Different mods make more power at different RPM's.

[Evil98Silvia]

Yea I know what a CAI is, i think we all do, short rams i agree are retarded, just lettin more hot air in than the stock airbox did. Thats why my ride side mount CAI goes into the front right fender well.

Robbie