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AZhitman
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House Committee Passes Bill Requiring Independent Scientific Analysis of E15 Gasoline

The U.S. House Science Committee approved a bill (H.R. 3199) directing the National Academy of Sciences to conduct a scientific assessment on how gasoline blended with 15 to 20 percent ethanol (E15 and E20) may impact gasoline-powered engines, vehicles and related equipment. The analysis would consider a variety of issues including tailpipe and evaporative emissions, impact on OBD systems, materials compatibility and fuel efficiency. The National Academy of Sciences would have 18 months to conduct its analysis. HR 3199 will now be considered by the full House of Representatives.

We Urge You to Contact Your Congressional Representative to Request Their Support for H.R. 3199

H.R. 3199 acknowledges that E15 causes corrosion with incompatible parts. Ethanol increases water formation which can then create formic acid and corrode metals, plastics and rubber. The EPA allows use of E15 in 2001 and newer vehicles, but agreed to make it “illegal to fuel pre-2001 vehicles” with E15. A required warning label on the gasoline pump will not protect consumers from accidentally misfueling these vehicles/engines.
H.R. 3199 recognizes that E15 is not yet in the marketplace. It is still the subject of several lawsuits and Congress could enact legislation to block the sale.

H.R. 3199 prevents the EPA from permitting the sale of E15 before the report has been submitted to the House Science Committee.

H.R. 3199 potentially protects millions of vehicles and engines that can be harmed from E15. The EPA was premature in permitting the sale since it is still unclear how E15 impacts tailpipe and evaporative emissions, OBD systems, materials compatibility and fuel efficiency.
DON’T DELAY! Click here to contact your member of the U.S. House of Representatives to request their support of H.R. 3199. Under Federal Officials, Identify Your Congressional District Representative: http://semasan.com/lookup.asp?g=semaga

For more information, contact Stuart Gosswein at [email protected].


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Jesda
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F*** the corn lobby!

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Are we still using corn to make that crap? What the hell!

Get me some land fill/switchgrass derived E85!

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^ If it were only that easy..

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Got that email from SEMA too. Excellent work! Not only do we have cars to worry about we have things like tractors and mowers, ect. that can get eaten alive by E15. Do we really want fields and fields of those things littering the earth because E15 ruined them too?

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It would be great if they can get rid of the stuff it would make it much more convenient when I need to fill up the Z. Luckily there is a gas station right by my house that has ethanol free gasoline.

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PEZi
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Already contacted my representative... love it.

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I'd rather drive a gas/electric hybrid, full electric or diesel than put E-whatever in a non-ethanol intended vehicle.

I guess it's time to start searching for an Insight or a V10 TDI Touareg.

And I love the planet.

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LOL @ loving the planet and looking for a V10 TDI anything :)

I'd rock a turbo diesel with bio-diesel capability all day long.

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I did my stint with a TDi. Colossal waste of money, considering the price of diesel and the additional maintenance / upkeep costs.

If the damn thing didn't weigh the same as our Frontier, it MIGHT have gotten better mileage. VW's are still built out of cast iron, apparently.

For a daily beater, I like my 63mpg at $3.39 / gallon - with no payments.

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Rex wrote:I guess it's time to start searching for an Insight
We are now competing for a rare car. :biggrin:

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I hate the idea of using a food product to produce fuel. Ethanol should be made from inedible material, but it's more expensive.

Biomass diesel is where it's at...

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Yep.

Grow that stuff in algae-filled tubes.


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