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I have been looking into purchasing a launch controller (2-step) so i can figure out a good RPM to launch my car at on the 1320. I have been leaning really, really close to the "Gizzmo Launch Interface." This is like to only 2-Step I can find... do any of you know of any other companies that make a external 2-step? If not I'll prolly just end up buying the Gizzmo. Thanks!


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BeeR

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I was looking at the Gizzmo 2-step, but it sounds like it is an add-on to their shift light. In that case, the price for both is around $300.

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gizzmo and bee racing are best to me

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No love for MSD?

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Darius wrote:I was looking at the Gizzmo 2-step, but it sounds like it is an add-on to their shift light. In that case, the price for both is around $300.
You can run the Gizzmo 2-Step w/o the Tach Recall Shift Light. I've talked to Apexi about it.

And BeeR? Any link to which one, any specific model would help... Or MSD's?

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Import Intelligence also has a two step called the perfect launch sysytem....goto importintelligence.com....I think it's about $275.00

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Gizzmo FTW!

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No you CANNOT use a BEE-R for launch control. Those things are horrible all around. I do not know anything about the Gizzmo others are talking about, so I cannot comment on it. I do however know the e-manage ultimate has an awesome 2-step built into it. I have one in my car and it is very easy to set up/adjust. All you do is enter 1st and 2nd limit rpm's, enter the throttle position (%) at which the 2 step should activate, and enter how many VSS pulses it should keep the limiter at setting 1 before allowing the engine to rev to setting 2. So, at a stop if I go over 50% throttle the engine is limited to 3500rpm and as soon as the e-manage sees 2 VSS pulses it allows the engine to rev to 7200rpm. It can be configured to wait between 1 and 140 vss pulses before raising to the second limiter.

Also, I build up about 6 psi very quickly by doing this.

Hope this helps
Modified by garage-c at 11:55 PM 8/21/2007

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The Bee-R rev limiter isnt that bad. You just need to know how to use it right.

I have REV 1 set to my engines RPM redline which is 7000 and the rev 2 set to 3500 and it is hooked up to the clutch switch. You set the gain down and push the clutch in. When you want to launch, bam, let off the clutch and Rev limit goes from 4k to 7k the moment you let off the clutch. You can do alot of other neat tricks with the bee-r rev limiter. I know alot of people dont like it. "I blow exhaust gaskets" or some other reasons, but its a good basic tool.

Ill just say the Bee-r Has saved my *** a few times from overrevving the **** out of my engine coming out of corners and doing a bit of donuts, or drifting.

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I've heard mixed about the BeeR as well, lots of negative but the people that actually sitdown and learn how to use it right love it... But then again, the Gizzmo seeems like the best bang for the $$ simply because it's made for the RB engine. It can be used with other platforms but that is the suggested platform.

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i just ordered my gizzmo launch interface and light today from adrenaline motorsports in st. louis. if you are looking for one give them a call 636-477-9363 and ask for susan and tell her that hans sent you and she might give you a deal. also she is getting over 30 apexi power fc for the rb25det here by the end of the month so if you looking for one give here a call.

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wut did u pay ? my issue is that i have a haltech so idk how it will respond to it

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I have a power fc, i'll prolly just get the gizzmo i have never heard of anything negative from the aussies on them.

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well i get a shop discount from them but i got the launch interface for $140 and the tach recall light for $190 and you do need both of them for it to work. im in the middle of wiring mine up at the moment ill have it done by tommorow. ill get some vid up when i get my down pipe back from mckinney.

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Ah! thank HxC I will be contacting that number!

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"The ignition cut is clutch activated allowing flat changing (the ability to change gear without removing your foot from the throttle). With the clutch engaged the rpm will pull back to the launch rpm previously set by the user in order to avoid over reving, this results in the vehicle not coming off boost while moving through the gears,".

Can someone explain this to me. With my software program for my turbo DA9, Pretty much the launch is activated when the car is at standsteal.

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meet07 wrote:"The ignition cut is clutch activated allowing flat changing (the ability to change gear without removing your foot from the throttle). With the clutch engaged the rpm will pull back to the launch rpm previously set by the user in order to avoid over reving, this results in the vehicle not coming off boost while moving through the gears,".

Can someone explain this to me. With my software program for my turbo DA9, Pretty much the launch is activated when the car is at standsteal.
some work by speedo, some work by hand brake, some work by clutch, some work with a combination. the gizzmo seems to only work when the clutch is in, which also happens to be when you shift, thus they can claim their product allows WOT shifting, speed shifting, flat shifting, whatever you want to call it. basically means clutch in, stay on the gas, launch interface limiter will kick in and keep the RPMs at your launch rpm, release the clutch, hope your trans doesn't break, keep going.

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meet07 wrote:"The ignition cut is clutch activated allowing flat changing (the ability to change gear without removing your foot from the throttle). With the clutch engaged the rpm will pull back to the launch rpm previously set by the user in order to avoid over reving, this results in the vehicle not coming off boost while moving through the gears,".

Can someone explain this to me. With my software program for my turbo DA9, Pretty much the launch is activated when the car is at standsteal.
I read this on their website the other day. Awesome feature will prolly dractically change ETs. Well be buying soon!

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gawdzilla wrote:some work by speedo, some work by hand brake, some work by clutch, some work with a combination. the gizzmo seems to only work when the clutch is in, which also happens to be when you shift, thus they can claim their product allows WOT shifting, speed shifting, flat shifting, whatever you want to call it. basically means clutch in, stay on the gas, launch interface limiter will kick in and keep the RPMs at your launch rpm, release the clutch, hope your trans doesn't break, keep going.
Thats how i have my Beer set up and it works great.

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HxC any updates? I'd love to see vids of the Gizzmo


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