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Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:19 am
I think the ads really had nothing to do with it in the end, but it was for sure a bad start. I think it was more the LS400 immediately attracted the 45-75 year old men than generally can and do buy these types of expensive cars new into buying them as they rode more like MB than a BMW and the styling was more Luxo oriented. My dad was a 60 year old classic MB S class buyer who had 2 S class benz's back in the day when he could afford them. When the LS came out he loved it and barely noticed the Q which I was drooling over. In 1993 he got a 1990 LS400 and thought it was "the greatest car on earth". I drove it one day out in Palm Desert where he lived and was completely underwhelmed. The car ended up with major issues and he dumped it 2 years later in favor of a 1992 Q45 that he bought from an old couple who hardly drove it. One week into the Q and he was "the LS was a turd compared to this, this is like a rocket and much more solid". So it took a crazy good deal to get him into that Q but once he drove it he loved it. When he bought that LS he hadn't given the Q a second thought or look.
You can see the 1994 woke up the Q a bit, now with the grill on the front and a more reliable and luxo feel. I always felt the 94' was the most sorted out in terms of reliability and still having the Q grunt of that first gen. When I bought my 97' in 2000 I drove it back to back with a 96' and it was obviously very different than my dad's 92' in terms of power...the power was about equal between models but by than the first Gen body style had gone stale. The 97' sold okay, but as you can see the end of the 2nd gen was horrible. I could have picked up a 2001 Anni edition brand new for 45k (sticker was 55k) as they couldn't give them away.
The 2002 as I remember my buddy telling me (he was the GM of Infiniti of Ventura at the time) is "the no excuses car people were waiting for from Infiniti", and while as you can see it sold a bit better than the 2001 by 2003 the model was cooked. That car was a day late and dollar short and the styling was just too bland.
with about 70k first gen Q's out there and less than half that number of 2nd Gen I think we're still (at least in CA) seeing a lot of (albeit mostly trashed) 1st Gens. What a pathetic showing this was for Nissan. For perspective in 1984 when I bought a Z car they sold 75k of them that ONE YEAR!