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CAR 1995 240sx se 89,000k

last night i was driving my car in the rain, drifting, and then when to walmart. after buying some stuff i get back to my car and try to start it. i just keep hearing clicking sound from under the hood. all the lights work but my car wont start, why? then i unplug the neg bat. wire and then put it back on and it starts!! then today i try to start my car and then NOTHING.......


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Clean the terminals first of all. and make sure they are nice and tight.

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ahh yes that clicking implies a dead alternator, well in my case it did anyway.. what i suggest you do is postpone what you call "drifting" and wasting valuable thread on your tires so you wont have to replace so oftern, and get a new alternator. when mine would sit there for a while, it would make tha noise and not start.Like say i was cleaning it w/ the radio on it would do that clicking noise, when i would try to start it back on. I had someone jump start it for me left it on for a while just so the alternator would recharge the battery. But in your case its odd. Did you have it on while in the store like was someone in your car? If not that's odd. But yeah you would probably have to replace your alternator.probably could get it cheap if you prowl our Buy/sell forums.

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What you are describing is a pretty classic case of dirty terminals or a bad cable. If you jiggle or move the terminal or the cable it will start.

If you have temporary ends on the cables, take them off and clean them really well. Also clean the terminals well.

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You could check the altenator by starting your car and disconnection the terminals and see if it will run off the altenator, at least what I was told how to check it when that happened to my car. It turned out to be very dirty terminals, I couldnt see the junk but when I took a wire brush to it tons of junk came off.

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clicking doesn't mean alternator at all. The clicking you hear is due to the battery being low on power. The battery being low on power however can be a result of a faulty alternator. So don't confuse the alternator with clicking, it's always battery.

Don't tell people to buy alternators or any other part for that matter if you are not sure of the problem.

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And NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER tell people to disconnect their battery with the car running. If you want to fry stuff on your car that is your deal, please don't tell others to do the same.

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Actually, you're all wrong. The clicking under the hood is the starter cellinoid (sp?). This is what engages the starter to the flywheel to start your car. If it clicks and no start, you're out of juice. Could be bad batt., connections, bad wiring or alternator.

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I'd put dollars to doughnuts that it's your battery cable and connections. clean your current terminals thoroughly, you can use coke, or that cleaner stuff they sell at AutoZone and a wire brush, then tighten the fool out of them.

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Smebbin'd'240 wrote:Actually, you're all wrong. The clicking under the hood is the starter cellinoid (sp?). This is what engages the starter to the flywheel to start your car. If it clicks and no start, you're out of juice. Could be bad batt., connections, bad wiring or alternator.


Don't be so quick to play mr.know it all and tell everyone else that they're wrong.

We've already established that the clicking is the result of low battery power or poor connections. The clicking is in no way what so ever a result of a bad alternator. If your battery is dead because of a bad alternator, then you will hear the clicking, but not because of the alternator, but because the battery is dead. Common sense would tell anyone of average intelligence that when the engine is not running, the alternator isn't even producing ANY current, so how can an electrical problem like clicking be related back to the alternator? It can't. It's spelled Solonoid. The clicking would most often be comming from a Relay.

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Quote »And NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER tell people to disconnect their battery with the car running. If you want to fry stuff on your car that is your deal, please don't tell others to do the same.[/quote]

This is what I was told how to do it, seems to work for me as ive done it on a few occasions, jumping from another battery because of no jumper cables and to test the altenator, with no bad effects.

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Well they told you wrong. Doing this results in a voltage spike that can fry electrical components. Keep doing it. Your day will come.

Oh yeah, the clicking is actually the starter solonoid, but it is a result of a lack power(due to various things like bad cables, dead batt etc.) The actual lack of power may or may not be caused because the alternator did not charge the car while the motor was running.

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lets not start any arguments, most of u have good points, and toahk, they are right about doing that, i woulndt keep doing it, maybe im wrong, but i think it will eventuallycatch up to u ,so bottom line, it oculd be numerious things ,go check em all

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If I sounded harsh I didn't mean too. Sorry. My wife says I'm just mean sometimes.

As for disconnecting the battery, just go ask some good ASE certified Master Techs.

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that clicking is the starter solenoid...if a car wont start first thing u check for is clicking..if it doesn't click, starters dead...now if u hear clicking its probably electrically related (battery, alternator, cables, ECU..) as already established..it is NOT the battery being low on power..u dont have to buy another alternator just yet...

to the post starter...try cleaning connections first..its that doesn't work, TEST out ur alternator..i think its the alternator since u probably were running off the battery...was the lights a bit more dim? if the battery is low on power, when u turned on ur turn signals or interior lights, did it seem more dimmer? post back and keep us updated..pz

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wow...

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okay i got it guys, thanks!! well the neg terminal was corroded. heres the deal, several months afteri bought my car the clamp around the neg terminal started to come off while i driving. so i put a peice of foil around the terminal and it thickedned it preventing the clamp from coming loose. fast forward to today the foil was kinda burnt up and as i peeled it off, there was corrosion around the terminal, so i cleaned it off with some baking soda and droveit around severaltimes today and it'sback to normal!! thanks guys!!

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Hahahahaha I win again!!! j/k guys good info good thread


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