Goku VS Superman

[dwclur]

SUPERMAN = LOSE

[numbnuts240]

This thread popped up on the Vortex a few years ago.

Some highlights:

Superman Pre-crisis, post-crisis, and MOST CERTAINLY Superman Prime will ruin Goku.

Eat it, weeaboos.

convincing evidence there. i only have one thing to ask after all that. whoever assembled all that superman comic book history, have they ever experienced penetration with something other than their grandmother's cat?

[Mr1der]

s***...comic con brings the hotties.

[numbnuts240]

s***...comic con brings the hotties.

while this may be true, case in point...



i can almost guarantee you that any dude that knows that much about comic characters would spend more time debating these topics with said hotties as opposed to spitting game.

[krimsonviper]

That list has Supermans from past present and future. You can't really compare like that.

The Goku from to the peak of his power, and have the Superman time equivalent. Meaning, the date of whenever Goku reached his peak, have the Superman that was printed the same year.

IIRC on the dates, Goku would win.

[musashin]

That list has Supermans from past present and future. You can't really compare like that.

The Goku from to the peak of his power, and have the Superman time equivalent. Meaning, the date of whenever Goku reached his peak, have the Superman that was printed the same year.

IIRC on the dates, Goku would win.

And why are you giving Goku the advantage of being at his peak? Regardless of the fact that your argument makes no real sense, what about Superman at his peak and the Goku of that same date?

Superman FTW

[DrifterXRPS13]

I'm a big fan of both but i agree superman would win plus as far as i know superman doesn't age or at least he does so very very very very slowly! We do know that goku ages and he has died many times before. Supes has died once that i know of and he came back from that.

Plus all those things charlieo listed...i mean supes can time travel for gods sake...I love goku and DBZ but i'm gonna go with supes everytime...

We know so much more about superman and he's been around for wayyyyy wayyyy longer that the db series has been around.

The most powerful form of goku we know of or saiyans in general is SSJ4 or the fusion of goku/vegeta, we don't even know what the limits of supes powers are yet because they are still writing comics and the DC universe is alive and well.

There was also a "wizard" book that came out a few years ago that debated this question and even the publishers agree that while goku is teh shiznit, in the end superman would win.

[DrifterXRPS13]

what about Superman at his peak and the Goku of that same date?

Superman FTW

We can't really do that because well, goku has been dead for a loooooong looooong time, and like i said, we still dont' know the peak of supermans powers.

[RobPaulson]

Whatever...

Uchiha Madara would pwn them all.

uchiha madara is gona get raped in the butthole when naruto gets ahold of him ... have u even seen this!?!?!? He is going to kill eeevvvveeerrrryyyonnneeee LOL



.... sorry distraction lol naruto manga is hitting the fan atm, but ya, for goku vs superman ... i'm gona go with superman, indestructible is indestructible, plain and simple imo <shrug> not to mention, those wall of texts quoted above convinced me LOL

[krimsonviper]

And why are you giving Goku the advantage of being at his peak? Regardless of the fact that your argument makes no real sense, what about Superman at his peak and the Goku of that same date?

Superman FTW

Because the comics are continually coming out. Of course he's going to keep evolving and keep coming out with new stuff/adventures/over coming impossible feats. because the writers and the readers imagination keeps evolving. The reason I stuck it to a timeline is because of this.

[marlin29311]

while everyone here is arguing about cartoons, I talking to girls.

REAL ONES.

WITH BOOBS.

Losers.

[RobPaulson]

while everyone here is arguing about cartoons, I talking to girls.

REAL ONES.

WITH BOOBS.

Losers.

bah thats what my girlfriends for, and her boobies are big. real big. and real. winner.

[HashiriyaS14]

suck it Otakus.

Lucy Pinder!

Anyway, I'm still voting for Goku to beat up on any Superman but POSSIBLY Superman Prime.

Brolly destroyed A GALAXY. Not a planet, a GALAXY. Goku beat the hell out of Brolly only about halfway through his character evolution. Goku was, by all measures, exponentially stronger than Brolly ever was by the end of the series.

The whole "limited only by willpower" bit with the Green Lantern Ring probably puts Prime over the edge though, as that is effectively omnipotence, but I think that Goku > all other versions of Superman.

[numbnuts240]

compare this way. db manga ended in 1995. what was goku's power at this time? what was superman's power at this time? now compare.

[RobPaulson]

compare this way. db manga ended in 1995. what was goku's power at this time? what was superman's power at this time? now compare.

enlighten us

[krimsonviper]

compare this way. db manga ended in 1995. what was goku's power at this time? what was superman's power at this time? now compare.

That's EXACTLY what I was going for. Thank Nuts.

[numbnuts240]

i tried to say the same thing earlier. i asked at what point in the db series would they have fought. i probably gave more credit to goku, since i never really liked superman (i'm a batman fan tbh). but you can't compare today's superman with any goku, because like you said, superman continued to "evolve" over the years while goku's been dead for years. the die hards will say "well superman can go back in time and lay the smack down", but that wouldn't be a fair comparison, now would it?

[S133P3R]

while everyone here is arguing about cartoons, I talking to girls.

REAL ONES.

WITH BOOBS.

Losers.

Not with that spelling your not mister.yes, i talk to you.

thank you charleio

dragon ballZ fans....yes, he has a toy so i know who he is... wonderful!

sorry, id rather hang out with superman fans...................WAtchOUTNErDsSEMI-NSFW.BEWWWBAGE................................

[numbnuts240]

not for nothing, but i highly doubt any of the girls posted can tell you what superman's alter ego's name is or even what planet he hails from.

[S133P3R]

Uranus?

[Urabus GodofTraction]

That list has Supermans from past present and future. You can't really compare like that.

The Goku from to the peak of his power, and have the Superman time equivalent. Meaning, the date of whenever Goku reached his peak, have the Superman that was printed the same year.

IIRC on the dates, Goku would win.

Irrelevant. Superman at just about any stage is shown to be capable of time travel.

Plus, you're trying to line up the time frames of two totally different stories. Unpossible.

OR, I'll take a Pre-Crisis Superman, any exact date. Said Superman goes and kills Goku's parents or whatever. Problem SOLVED, b****es.

The whole "limited only by willpower" bit with the Green Lantern Ring probably puts Prime over the edge though, as that is effectively omnipotence, but I think that Goku > all other versions of Superman.

s*** man, Batman with the ring could pwn Goku.

[DrifterXRPS13]

well, here's the thing about superman guys...he's had different writers and editors since the 30's. These people constantly change his power levels and story lines...i gave up on comics a long time ago because unless you were born in the 30's you have no idea what's going on in these storylines with alternate universes and whatnot.

Superman was almost godlike in the the silverage which was the mid 50s to the mid 80's , he could move planets extiguish stars and some other crazy powers that were just ridiculous.

Goku and the whole db saga had one writer and one guys vision so he had complete control and it only lasted what 10 years or so.

When the post-crisis superman (mid80's to now) was created they depowered superman to his original 1940's 50's power levels.

in 1994 the DC writers said this about superman.

He could not travel at speeds faster than light Had limited super-hearing abilitiesCould not move planetsHad lessened invulnerabilitycould survive in spae with no oxygen for a limited period of time.

But at the same time in 94 there was an issue where another character saved supes absorbed an energy ray that somehow gave supes his powers back and gave him a power boost.

After that happened, he was faster than a spaceship, did not need an oxygen mask to breathe in space. At this time Supermans powers began to grow at an exponential rate and was actualy declared to be too powerful and dangerous to earth. A character called parasite absorbed supes excess energy allowing him to be normal again...but we still don't know if he just took his power that was growing or all his power back down to where the writers established it.

DC later wrote a letter saying that he "was simply depowered to the level he was at just before his abilites went out of control, so he is able to travel in space...and that is a good power level for us and for you, superfans, too"

So pretty much in 1995, he can travel faster than the speed of light, does not need oxygen in space, invulnerable and his strength and powers have all increased.

[numbnuts240]

Irrelevant. Superman at just about any stage is shown to be capable of time travel.

Plus, you're trying to line up the time frames of two totally different stories. Unpossible.

OR, I'll take a Pre-Crisis Superman, any exact date. Said Superman goes and kills Goku's parents or whatever. Problem SOLVED, b****es.

s*** man, Batman with the ring could pwn Goku.

what does time travel have to do with anything? they'll be fighting, i doubt superman will be all that concerned with time travel in the midst of a brawl. killing the parents won't happen since superman could never know that they would ever fight, never mind that he probably would never have known anything about goku's home planet.

here's the scenario. the year is 1995. based on goku's abilities in the manga, and superman's abilities in the comic, who would win. tbh, the only people who can accurately make predictions are those with knowledge of both opponents' abilities. everyone else is just showing favoritism to whomever they like more.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

well, here's the thing about superman guys...he's had different writers and editors since the 30's. These people constantly change his power levels and story lines...i gave up on comics a long time ago because unless you were born in the 30's you have no idea what's going on in these storylines with alternate universes and whatnot.

Superman was almost godlike in the the silverage which was the mid 50s to the mid 80's , he could move planets extiguish stars and some other crazy powers that were just ridiculous.

Goku and the whole db saga had one writer and one guys vision so he had complete control and it only lasted what 10 years or so.

Did a mod edit the thread or did I just skip over the part that makes any of this relevant?

Thread title:Goku. Check.Superman. Check.

NOT 1995 Goku vs 1995 Superman. I'll also state again the whole "Superman can time travel" bit.

[S133P3R]

[Urabus GodofTraction]

what does time travel have to do with anything? they'll be fighting, i doubt superman will be all that concerned with time travel in the midst of a brawl. killing the parents won't happen since superman could never know that they would ever fight, never mind that he probably would never have known anything about goku's home planet.

here's the scenario. the year is 1995. based on goku's abilities in the manga, and superman's abilities in the comic, who would win. tbh, the only people who can accurately make predictions are those with knowledge of both opponents' abilities. everyone else is just showing favoritism to whomever they like more.

Here's how time travel is relevent...

The year is 1995. Goku is ready to fight and OH s*** HERE COMES SUPERMAN FROM THE FUTURE OH f*** HE'S COMING RIGHT TO GOKU s*** s*** s*** s*** s***!

Or the past. As stated, Pre-Crisis Supes is a badass.

[VNG704]

like someone said before, goku wouldn't destroy the sun like superman wouldn't kill goku's parents.

[DrifterXRPS13]

Did a mod edit the thread or did I just skip over the part that makes any of this relevant?

Thread title:Goku. Check.Superman. Check.

NOT 1995 Goku vs 1995 Superman. I'll also state again the whole "Superman can time travel" bit.

No, you skipped the part where reading just pwned you...go back a page and read with your eyes and then come back and you will realize that i am for supes and i was trying to clear up the question that was asked about 1995 goku vs the equivalent supes.

Calm down, read the post that i made first and the ones after, i may have a dbz avatar but i'm all for superman.

I'll also state again what you stated "You just skpped over the part that makes any of this relevant"

[VNG704]

School me on superman's time travel ability. that's when he flys around earth to rotate it backwards right? How's he doing that when he he has goku's fist in the back of his head?

It's too close a fight, imo, for any of us to say. Only the writers can say.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

No, you skipped the part where reading just pwned you...go back a page and read with your eyes and then come back and you will realize that i am for supes and i was trying to clear up the question that was asked about 1995 goku vs the equivalent supes.

Calm down, read the post that i made first and the ones after, i may have a dbz avatar but i'm all for superman.

I'll also state again what you stated "You just skpped over the part that makes any of this relevant"

Ooooooh, so close!

I wasn't taking sides in my post that quoted you, so that's not relevant who you're for or against (right now).

What I stated in response to your post (and any other along similar lines) is that matching time periods is irrelevant. Mainly a response aimed at numbnuts.