Going to get tein tierods and some sort of tierod ends....help

[UncleBen]

As the title says I am wanting to get Tein Tierods for my new s14 as well as some tierod ends because mine have busted grease fittings, so while I repair I might as well upgrade. Anyway, I was wondering where everyone bought their Tein tierods as well as tierod ends, and what kind of tierod ends did you get? I know somewhere sells Kazama Tierod ends paired with Tein Tierods, which is what I would like to get but I can't remember or find who sells that group of parts. If you dont recommend Kazama, I know SPL makes some tierod ends, are they good? I'll do some more research, but wanted to post up and get some opinions, thanks guys.

[SmithSR]

Phase2 sells the kit!

[McRussellPants]

SPL's inner is 70$ with the inner spacers for more angle. Its also way stronger than stock but you have to use the SPL outters to use it.

SPLs Outter is 500,000,000,000 times better than Kazama / KTS. The Kazama/KTS rod end is too small so it will start to smash out the liner pretty quickly. Then the buckle is aluminum and I've seen them bend.

The Peak Preformance stuff looks OEM... The tie rod pics they have on Phase2 are the same pencil diameter as stock, the pros just look machined for more angle. the Street outters are probably Moog and the Pro Outters are probably Ikea Formula.

[UncleBen]

So basically you're telling me that SPL's inner *and* outer pieces are what I need to go with, because without the outer rods I couldn't use the inner rods, therefore it would be best to get them both?

Before I check out SPL's site (it's been a while since I've been on there and I am out of town ok 56k so I dont want to do anything too challenging for this dialup, NICO is hard enough). Anyway before I check out SPL's site, do they sell the inner and outer rods as a set? If so, how much?

Thanks guys, I appreciate the quick help.

[McRussellPants]

It will be around 250$ for both including shipping.

I think I needs a set... My tie rods are the last stock part on my front suspension. =/

[UncleBen]

I looked on spl and saw all the suspension stuff, but I didn't see an option of ordering s14 tierods, I did for z32's but not s14's. I saw the tierod *ends* but not the tierods themselves. Whats up? Can you hook me up with a link or something?

[continental_drift]

From my research and experience, the same way tuning companies willmate parts of an exhaust and intake, or ecu tuned to specific components,many suspension manufacturers do the same thing...if they have multiplepieces they are usually meant to run in conjunction with each otherfor best results. Doesn't mean you have to shell out for cusco everything,but unless you know someone who's run it, or have done sufficientresearch on your own...I'd be careful about what you buy. regarding yourinquiry as per SPL, I've heard nothing but good stuff about SPL's parts.I've never run them. I do know someone running an s14 with tein everything, he's happy, and it seems to run well.

Micah
Modified by continental_drift at 2:31 PM 11/25/2005

[McRussellPants]

Thats because the SPL inners ARE Z32 inners, thats why you have to use their outters.

Its also what makes them stronger.

SPL Inner/Outter combo is still bolt on though.

[UncleBen]

Makes sense, use the z32 inner rods with outer rods that mate to s14 components, therefore upgrading/improving. I get it, I like it.

Drift, what was the point of your post? I'm not trying to be a jerk I seriously dont understand what the point of your post was...?

[continental_drift]

don't worry, you aren't being a jerk. I read my post and I guess I justdidn't sum it up clearly enough...

when people give their opinions on specific parts, they aren't always looking at the bigger picture. sometimes a part that may not have gottena great review by itself, will work great as part of a "system by design".

I guess I'm just trying to point out, without wanting to sound like anyonesmom, that it might be a good idea to look at what you're doing/tryingto do with the car. If you're driving it hard, then the logical progressionwould be that other components will be upgraded as well...cause the tierod's grease fitting isn't the only thing thats going to wear out over time.the ADDED STRESS of having 1 part of your suspension upgraded can causesome of those other stock parts to wear out ever faster.

If you are only using the car as a daily driver, then whats wrong with oem parts? please keep in mind that I don't know you or the conditions under which youdrive. I'm attempting to be helpful but all I get out of your original post is the word "upgrade" and some brand names. I understand you want to knowwhich brand is best. well, how far are you planning on taking this vehicle?and to what ends? sorry if this did not clarify the relevance of the first post.If this is not what you were looking for I will eliminate both.

Micah

[UncleBen]

I see what you mean now and your points are valid. Of course there is nothing wrong with OEM parts, but as I neglected to mention earlier, my car will be driven aggressively and there will be other suspension upgrades performed on my car, validating the necessary repairs/upgrades. In my mind, if I have to repair, I might as well repair with something better than stock for about the same money, or maybe a little more. $250 or so for something that will make my car feel better and handle better is worth it to me, when I will be paying who knows how much for about the same things from OEM Nissan.

So good point and I see where you are coming from, I myself didn't make my initial post as clear as I could have I dont guess because I didn't give any background as to why I want to upgrade or what the point in it would be. I'm an aggressive driver and love a resonsive, good handling car. The 240 is so good out of the box and has so much potential to be so much better, I can't help but try and harness some of that potential.

[onosqv]

i believe for the tein/kazama combo it's this:

s13 tein inner rod + s14 kazama outer tie rod.

You just have to find a place that will sell the inner & outer separately, which most online ones should.

[cdlong]

i have the SPL setup and it is definitely worth it. they changed the feel of the front end completely (for the better of course).

if you have an S14 then you already have S14 tie rods. no need to upgrade unless they are worn out. the Z32 rods cretainly are stronger though. if you want tein rods then you can get those seperatly and use the rod ends designed for the S14 tie rods. you just have to order them somewhere else since SPL doesn't sell them.

[574-240sx]

I have the SPL ones. I had some problems when they first had the spacer shank problems with the design but since then the design flaw has been fixed. I have the 300zx inners and the spl outers. So far so good.