going to get a CA

[khrys771]

i am thinking of getting it from jspecauto.com. they are close to me seeing as i live in kentucky. should i get it from them. i will demand pics of the engine and the shipping tracking number. for 900 i think i should. i want your opinions.

[andrave]

what do you mean for 900 you should? where else are you gonna get a ca for 900???wiring harnesses are cut, so look forward to finding one for another 300 bucks from japan (if you can).And they ship freight (truck) of course, since its a pretty heavy item, so tracking will be whatever the trucking company offers.Your best bet is finding an engine near enough that you can expect it. You might want to do a search about jspec before you order though, might turn up some feedback that would make you change your mind.

[khrys771]

when i called the guy said it was uncut.well how else would they ship it? drop it from a plane with a parachute on it? lol jk

all i would need would be an IC, IC pipes, ignitor, and MAFS. and so far of what i read the q45 ignitor works, and the ca18de MAFS works and i can get a mitsu starion IC for around $50 - $100 so then that leave the IC piping which i am thinking of using a combomation of pipe and high pressure turbo hose ( looks like a braided hose, like used on the EVO8) so after that the s12 clutch works, and labor is not a problem since i will be doing this myself. i am thinking around $600 for extra parts and pieces. so thats around $1500 not including shipping and shipping is only about $250

i know that i will need things like P/S lines and radiator hoses, timing belt, and accessory belts. but i can get all that for cheap.

i am just wondering if the engines they have are good and worth it.?.?

[andrave]

I don't think too many people on the board have done business with them personally but like I said, do a search, I was reading about them a bit ago and some people said that jspec had been holding their money for over 5 months with no clip delivered....

Also, the owner guy has told some people the harnesses are cut and some that they aren't but I believe on his website it says that they are cut.

I also know that someone posted that they had recently ordered one, might be best to wait and see what kind of feedback gets posted from that transaction.

(BTW, read around about doing a ca18det swap on a 1500 budget-might make you change your mind).

[khrys771]

ok, well i expect up to $2000, but i would rather get a clip but it seem hopeless now.... and for $2k i could get an RB20

[Trigger]

my engine should be shipped out from then monday or tuesday. wait a week or so and i will let you know how they are ok...

Tim

[ca18datsun510]

the s12 clutch does not work. and, why would you get an rb20? so you can have a really heavy 2 liter?

[khrys771]

the rb20 wieghs less then the ka from what i hear.

the s12 clutch does not work!!!???

[andrave]

I knew a couple guys that did RB20 swaps on zilvia, had some problems...I think its not a really great tuner engine, has completely different stuff too, like a mechanical speedo...But, it IS a skyline engine, and it IS a six cylinder, and yes, it certainly is cheap (might be a reason for that)....

[cuzan0]

the s12 clutch does not work. and, why would you get an rb20? so you can have a really heavy 2 liter?

lol,dude why would i lie about the kit does not work???? I just installed it in my 92 240sx with a ca18det and bought a 6-puck with spings clutch kit from a 1984 200sx turbo ca18et...

darrell

[float_6969]

Hey, I've have first hand experience with it and I KNOW the S12 turbo clutch works. As for the RB20, to each is thier own. If you wanna put a 350 in your 240, then go for it. If you wanna put a H22 in it, go for it. It's YOUR car, not the masses, and if it's cool to you, then that is all that matters. Not what joe blow thinks.

[USDM_OneVia]

and for $2k i could get an RB20

Better order water pumps, gaskets, belts, and all kinds of other tune up stuff from Japan now for when it all goes bad in 6 months. There are NO parts in the US for RB motors. Why get one? Because it's a Skyline motor.... la-di-freakin-da.

Stick with your KA and just beat the crap out of it....

Joe

[khrys771]

well its about to blow, i'll just get a CA. i don't like the fact the the SR need rocker stoppers

[Trigger]

jspecmotors are shipping out my motor tomorrow

[khrys771]

cool cool , get a tracking number?

[quest]

two local S13s had it out. ca18det vs rb20det. RB spanked the ca convincingly. CA guy even stopped on the 3rd run. No match for the RB.CA had an SR t25, rb on stock turbo, 13psi. Both cars autoI know both guys paid $1000 for their setupsFor the money, stock RB20det (13sec) performance hard to beatU never heard a 4cyl exhaust note sound so sweet either, or run/rev as smoothJust some pros to consider

[andrave]

yes, well if you have a crappy low power ca setup you are gonna get whooped by a lot. its not like adding an sr20 t25 all of a sudden means your car its gonna run 9's. (For that you need to lengthen the injector pule and tune the nos timer... lol).RB 20 just isn't supported here... and who drops a six cylinder turbo into their car to leave it stock...

[quest]

"For the money, stock RB20det (13sec) performance hard to beat"

I guess u miss THAT point. read it again

[andrave]

I don't think a stock rb20 in a stock 240 chassis is gonna run a 13 second 1/4.

Also, read what I said... no support. when stuff breaks, well...

[quest]

>>"I don't think a stock rb20 in a stock 240 chassis is gonna run a 13 second 1/4.

and what are you baseing that on ?lemme see now.... what u *think* vs what I've seen. hmmmmmm tuff oneRB makes more torque on its decent sized stock turbo.... even limited by its ~14-15psi "dangerzone"

>>"Also, read what I said... no support. when stuff breaks"

USDM already made the point, so you really added nothing usefulDon't u think some folks can source rb parts ?

>>"who drops a six cylinder turbo into their car to leave it stock...

maybe a guy whose absolutely thrilled about his RB swap's performance ?Car is way faster than he imagined for the small cash outlay. He hasn't touched the setup.... just enjoying it as is. I was impressed

[andrave]

k

[elballoonrat]

why not just take a sho all aluminum v8, destroke it to 2.0L, put sequential turbos on each side, make a front sub frame and drop that puppy in? i dont understand why more people arent doing THAT swap.

i think its funny how everyone is so set on times times times, seems like the types that would want 360 duration cams on their cars because BIGGER numbers mean its better right?!?!?!

its all personal preference, im sure the ca with a lighter front would at least stay even on the road coarse(straight line maybe different), but with a properly tuned suspension and stock rb20 i dont see where the comparrison comes into play? they are two different motors, i dont see people arguing a chevy v8 vs a b16 swap in their hondas.

[andrave]

how about a v-8 made from two joined B16b's? that would also be good. and light.

[cnichols]

i am thinking of getting it from jspecauto.com. they are close to me seeing as i live in kentucky. should i get it from them. i will demand pics of the engine and the shipping tracking number. for 900 i think i should. i want your opinions.

Where in KY?

[float_6969]

But that would only be a 3.2L V8. We need more like 2 H22's joined together. That would at least get us a 4.4L! OR, we could make a straight eight like they used to in the old 1930's cars. They were litteraly 2 straight 4's stuck together. Hehehe, old stuff is cool.

[andrave]

Hmm... two NSX v-6's inline would be a 6.4 liter v12 with maybe a 9000 rpm redline, which might be nice... probably be able to get 600 HP naturally aspirated...

[elballoonrat]

http://www.tiger-sportscars.demon.co.uk/

check out their twin inline zx-9 super 7 replica that kicks the **** outta mclarens all day long.

[khrys771]

in lexington, a ford v8 in a nissan.... get real.. the rb engines are almost a flawless design the 26 especially it has been produced since the late 80's and is prolly still in production. close to 1000 HP on a stock block!!!!! the rb20 is no different. and there are ways to get rb parts, though alot of it may be aftermarket, that just makes it better.

check the RB20DET wieght and the KA24DE wieght.

the oonly thing about it though is that i personally would rather put the RB in the S14 chassis, and not the S13. i think that the strawberry face S13 with an RB25DET is a force to be reckoned with not only for show but raw power also. i admit that the RB is alittle too much for the S13.

but as before, i was only making a point on the prices.

[andrave]

Rb is no longer produced as far as I know, since they discontinued the skyline so would have no reason to produce it any longer (unless as spares for existing cars).

1000 HP on a stock block? Do you realize just how much of those engines is rebuilt, or how often a 1000 HP 2.6 liter would require rebulding?Notice that most of those engines are in shop cars. Shops with a large budget and a lot of time to work on a car that won't be driven much.Also, with S14 or S13 (rear suspension isn't that different) you are probably going to have to switch to an aftermarket rear suspension to be able to get a competitive launch with that much power. The stock 5 link is good for many things but not drag racing. Real racers switch it out for a 4 link, as far as I have seen.

[khrys771]

i never said drag racing, i don't mean stock internals i mean a normal un-bored 2.6 L block, i know 700 HP is attainable on an everyday driven car. thats alot of horsepower