GOING TO DO THE CA SWAP HELP HERE! PLEASE SO SRY.

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:34 pm

Hello everyone at NICO. I just signed up. I currently own a 1992 Nissan 240 SE Coupe, Blow crankshaft. So im going to do the CA18DET SWAp. Im buying the whole thing for 600$. It includes: MOTOR, transmission, TURBO, ECU with WIRING HARNESS. It does'nt include a intercooler tho.

I have heard that the swap is a basic bolt-on. COnsidering that im 16 and this is my dad and I's first swap. We've done many things in our life but not a complete swap. I have a few questions. IS this a good buy? Is this a complete bolt-on; meaning I just take out the motor, trans, ECU, and wiring harness and just connect everything else to the other parts of the 240Se for example radiator and such. How hard is this process? Sry, but im a complete noob at this please forgive my incompitance. Could we use the same motor oil that we buy in the us; or must I order from Jap? Please help. If anyone knows anyone that has done this or have a guid on how to. PS: what should I be looking out for when doing the swap? Thanks!!!! [email protected]

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:07 pm

Well first of all, welcome to Nico,

The price is pretty dam cheap to have all these parts included. I would definitely double check, test and inspect the engine before you buy it. Do a leak down test to make sure the internals of the engine are good, inspect the turbo for free shaft play and spins freely.

The engine itself it will plug instead of the KA without any issues.The wiring you need to mod couple plugs to work on the body harness.Radiator will work.

Make sure you get the MAF, ignitor and resistor pack for the injectors.

The process can be done over a weekend depending on your knowledge in Mechanics and wiring.

The price is a bit too low to be true, but every thing is possible, again, test the engine before you buy it.

If you can't find any answers by SEARCHING this forum, we will be more than happy to help you as much as we can

Welcome to NICO

PULSAR GTRRafi

Post by **xyster** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:24 pm

Yes, you're right, you have to order all your fluids from Japan. American oil, coolant, gear oil, and gasoline are not compatible with japanese motors.

I'm really sorry...couldn't resist.

I agree, sounds too good to be true. Go to http://www.srswap.com, and read over that. It's for SRs, but everything is basically the same. I used their wiring diagram, plus some threads on here about knock sensors (search), to successfully wire my CA. Honestly, it can be done in a weekend...if you have a team of guys that's done it before. I'd suggest a solid week for a quick-and-dirty swap.KA radiator will work.

Post by **mbmbmb23** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:52 pm

Silvia_Freak wrote: Hello everyone at NICO. I just signed up. I currently own a 1992 Nissan 240 SE Coupe, Blow crankshaft. So im going to do the CA18DET SWAp. Im buying the whole thing for 600$. It includes: MOTOR, transmission, TURBO, ECU with WIRING HARNESS. It does'nt include a intercooler tho.

I have heard that the swap is a basic bolt-on. COnsidering that im 16 and this is my dad and I's first swap. We've done many things in our life but not a complete swap. I have a few questions. IS this a good buy? Is this a complete bolt-on; meaning I just take out the motor, trans, ECU, and wiring harness and just connect everything else to the other parts of the 240Se for example radiator and such. How hard is this process? Sry, but im a complete noob at this please forgive my incompitance. Could we use the same motor oil that we buy in the us; or must I order from Jap? Please help. If anyone knows anyone that has done this or have a guid on how to. PS: what should I be looking out for when doing the swap? Thanks!!!! [email protected]

Hello...welcome to the board. I'm in Charlotte and I can help with the swap if you need. I dont have a CA yet, but I plan on doing the swap as soon as I find an engine to rebuild. I've been researching the swap for awhile now and feel confident in helping someone else out. I have some friends that have done the SR swap and it's pretty much the same.

$600 is a very good price for all that, but I'd have the motor compression tested to make sure its not blown. For $600 I wouldnt be suprised if the turbo was locked up, so check that out too.

My next step would be to find out if your wire harness has the ignitor chip still on it or not. Also, I believe you'll need a SOHC 240sx MAF or the CA MAF. Then, look on ebay for a used SR or CA side mount IC. I think the SR one will work. After this, I'd send off my wiring harness to get modded for the CA install. You'll have to send in the KA harness and the CA harness, and they hack em up and come up with one that you can use.

Those are the first things I'd do.

-m

p.s. Let me know when you'll need help (mbmbmb23 @ yahoo .com)

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:09 am

DO I REALLLY HAVE TO ORDER IN JAPANESE FLUIDS?

HOW WOULD I CHECK THE ENGINE?

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:50 am

LOL,

No man, there is no difference in fluids, USA fluids will work fine lol.

Get yourself a leak down test gauge or a compression gauge and have it tested.Try and find the fsm for the Ca18det, the manual will walk you through the compression test procedure.

PULSAR GTRRafi

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:30 am

Ok Pulsar. Just get the Test gauge and compression gauge? Where Do i find these? ALso what should I look for on the motor. Like part wise. That should be included?

Post by **Dattebayo** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:14 am

I hope you dont get screwed with a american CA18DE.

Happened to a friend of mine who did not check his source carefully enough.

Post by **sdtouge** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:52 am

thats sucks about your friend, what hapened, did he just notive there was no turbo and was like "wtf"

also, welcome some really good sites for info on the ca18det are ca18det.org, and like stated abouve the swap is almost the exact same, and directions ara on srswap.com

it seems intense to do an ngine wswapo but its not as bad as it seems.good luck:)

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:54 am

How would you know? It has a turbo. Doesnt that make it a CA18DET? Help please.

I need all the information I can get. Im buying the motor on saturday. So what do I need to do. Thanks.

PULSAR? You get back to me yet?

Post by **sdtouge** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 am

yes that would make it a ca18det, but i tihnk his friend just got a ca18de. he got ripped off.

some really basic stuff but the valve convers are red, it has the eccs like the sohc ka24e, has a turbo (duh)....if yourrealy woried about it take a picture and post it for verification.

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:38 am

Ok ok, so your saying the CA18DET from Jap. has as red valve conver. WEll this one does. IT also has the Turbo manifold and turbo. I'll take pics and post them up as soon as possible (sat.)

Post by **float_6969** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:34 pm

You might be able to tell from the valve covers if it's a CA18DE vs. a CA18DET. The main difference is internally. The DET has lower compression pistons, piston oil squirters, and a crank girdle. The DE Lacks these. The SAFEST way to tell would be to pull the oil pan and check for the crank girdle and the piston squirters. As for the high comp vs. low comp pistons, you'd have to pull the head, and that's a pain. I'd just pull the pan and check it out. As for the rest of it, that is a VERY cheap price and I would assume you are going to have to do some searching for parts and such. Make sure the harness is complete and wasn't cut at the firewall. Don't even think about trying to do this in a weekend. It CAN be done, but not for a first timer. Take your time and do it right THE FIRST TIME! Everytime I've hurried something I've always got to go back and do it again. Also do a leak down and compression check on it. The leak down is the most important as it will tell you what shape the rings are in and that is the most common problem with these motor. A compression test will only tell you if the rings are REALLY bad or if you've got a valve not seating, ect. Take pics and let us check it out.

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:05 pm

How would I got about doing a Leak Down test, and Compression? What would I half to buy?

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:07 pm

IF it doesnt come with an MAF. Where do i get on that fits with the CA18DET wiring Harness. Or am I wrong?

Post by **sdtouge** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:21 pm

ka24e maf bolts up

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:27 pm

Also, TO add and make note. Imma not planning to like go crazy with the POWER OPTIONS. If you understand me. I just want to do the swap and have the add power. Later on add extra mods. But as far is power goes in satisfied with around 180hp. So do you guys think the stock injectors or ok for what Im planning right? IS the swap ok for what im planning. BEcause the KA I have is blown to note.

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:02 pm

HI Silvia_Freak,

I have replied to your email regarding on how to test the engine.

The stock injectors and turbo is enough to produce the 180Hp, no worries there.

If the place that you are buying the engine from isn't far from where you live, just get some pictures and post them, the guys here will let you know if it is a real det engine.A quick way to check is obviously the turbo, make sure the oil an coolant lines of teh turbo are there, two off them will plug behind the turbo on the engine block, one will return the oil to the oil pan (make sure this line is there and not damaged) another line should go to the intake.

Make sure it is a RWD engine and not FWD and as others says, make sure you get the full UNCUT wiring harness.

inorder to have a complete swap, make sure you these parts come with the engine, if not , you need to buy them from some were else, Ignitor, resistor pack for the injectors, maf (you can use a KA24E maf ), CAS (camshaft angle sensor), spark plug coil packs and the wiring for it.

Take some pics of the entire package and we will try and give you some feedbacks on whats required and whats not in order to do the swap.

PULSAR GTRRafi

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:08 pm

THANKYOU TO EVERYONE,

PS: PULSAR IS A CA GOD CHECK OUT HIS SITE.

Post by **Silvia_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:10 pm

Oh How much would this all cost?

Ignitor, resistor pack for the injectors, CAS (camshaft angle sensor), spark plug coil packs and the wiring for it.

I take it that I need those. Ok ok, I'll amke sure on Saturday. Confirm with pics.

Wait; Stock KA ignitor wont work?

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:52 pm

I am not a CA God, I have been working with the CA engine for a long time, but there are tons of people on this forum that knows more than I do.

And no, the KA ignitor won't work.

PULSAR GTRRafi

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:13 pm

Interesting name you got there.

GOING TO DO THE CA SWAP HELP HERE! PLEASE SO SRY.

GOING TO DO THE CA SWAP HELP HERE! PLEASE SO SRY.

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