Godspeed Crossbar?

[danman04x]

Anyone seen these before or had any experience with them,.. I kno godspeed is not super high quality but this looks very good to me.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

[Chris28]

It's basically a copy of the miracle cross bar. Should be about the same thing, all it is is some bars welded together.

I'm not sure how the miracle bar is mounted, it might not be able to "pivot" if you know what I mean, like it might bolt directly to the frame.

i'll do some research and report back.

[Chris28]

I'm not sure I'd trust the godspeed one. The godspeed one is mounted by like 3 heim joints. Lots of flex there. The Next cross bar only uses one heim joint per mounting point, meaning it can't flex. The next one is a lot more rigid.

The Godspeed one looks to be for ricer points. More bars = cooler...right?

I've heard people swear by the miracle cross bar however.

[pj]

man i dont know about the looks of that thing...id rather just cage my car

[SolaraOnBronze]

I agree... kind of looks overdone. The Miracle brace is on my birthday list.

[killernoodle]

$300 is a good start on putting a real cage in... a real cage will stiffen up a car better than anything like that.

Not to mention the shock towers are only subject to vertical loads... why the hell would you need to stiffen the C Pillars?

Lets recap: $300 for a useless brace that wastes trunk space, weighs down the car, doesn't stiffen anything important, and is rice as hell.

BUY IT NOW!

[95Gstman]

Actually, I would say that the cpillars in the hatch could use some stiffening. The hatches are not as stiff as the coupe just due to the design. But, I have actually looked in to this exact brace and like others said, either put that money toward a cage or miracle x brace. I would say cage though because the miracle x brace is a little pricey for what you get in my opinion.

[killernoodle]

Still, all the suspension side loads are handled by the suspension sub assembly and is transferred to 4 bolts on the frame of the car. The shock mounts only take vertical load and I don't think they need reinforcement.

You'd be better off beefing up your actual suspension or welding the suspension subframe to your car's frame.

[SolaraOnBronze]

As far as "putting the money toward a cage," you also have to consider what the car is used for. Some people might want to stiffen the chassis up a bit without smacking their head on a roll cage in a street car. Just some food for thought...

I see what you guys are saying though. The Godspeed bar just looks really overdone to me.

[Cone Junky]

Still, all the suspension side loads are handled by the suspension sub assembly and is transferred to 4 bolts on the frame of the car. The shock mounts only take vertical load and I don't think they need reinforcement.

You'd be better off beefing up your actual suspension or welding the suspension subframe to your car's frame.

Every part of the car is subject to flexing. Any stiffening is an improvement. That being said, price and weight can easily outweigh the benefits of the increased rigidity.

Like mentioned, a rollbar/rollcage has much more benefits.

[Tyler]

if its a street car, dont cage it. and if your stupid and do cage a street car, get rollbar padding for anywhere your head can touch. i have cracked my helmet in my caged track car when i wrecked, if that was on the street and i wasnt wearing a helmet, id be dead.

[Ajax]

Just thought I'd offer some insight to this product.I purchased the Godspeed crossbar. I still have not installed it yet, because one of the mounting plates has holes that are not aligned properly. I will be calling them monday to get a replacement (I've got plenty of time- snow won't melt until late April).So obviously build quality is a concern on the Godspeed part.However, as far as design goes, this is a copy of the Miracle bar. It does not use Heim joints- it uses the same bolt-through-threaded-joint as the miracle bar. The Cross section is the same welded X (which was something I was looking at doing before I even heard of this product).Yes it has a bunch of extra bars running across and around as well. I probably won't use those extra pieces as I think they will be extraneous- maybe one extra from strut to strut, just to help solidify.As far as the need for something like this- if you've ridden in a hatch with a sunroof, you've heard the rattling- its just got a lot of give on these old cars. I installed a super cheap C-pillar bar from ebay which eliminated a lot of rattling (seriously- $15 cheap and it didn't even fit properly), so I'm looking forward to trying the Cross bar when it gets warmer.I refuse to install a cage because my car will always be a street driven car- echoing TJG and SolaraOnBronze.

[Chris28]

There are such things as half-cages. I got mine for 200 bucks and it stops and the closest bar to your head is main hoop, which is behind the seat. Stiffened up the rear hatch area quite nicely.

[Ajax]

After emailing and finally mailing both mounting plates, I have received the mounting plates back. The problem that I encountered was that one of the plates was very tight (had trouble getting the joint to slip between the towers), the other had misaligned holes.They sent back the same pieces with new bolts and the joint pieces jammed in (don't mind on the one that was super tight) which was not what I had in mind. So once again- build quality is a major concern. Its too bad the Miracle bar is almost twice the cost of this- Godspeed customer service sucks, but I am still looking forward to completing the install and trying it out.

[BrianHarte]

I bought this for my car too.

(sold all those other goofy a** bars. Just kept the "X")

It sucks. You would think that something as simple as this couldn't be messed up, right?

WRONG.

My brackets that slip over the strut tower nuts were not very good. It was a b**** to get it to fit right, but I made it work.

There are instructions either. Took me a while to figure out how to put everything together.

I do NOT suggest this part to anybody.

[Rays_240]

heres another alternative. EM racing Z bar. simple design and made a big diff. on my car. You dont have to remove any of your interior and with only a slight trimming it mounts under your seat belts

[EnjoiNismo]

get rollbar padding for anywhere your head can touch. i have cracked my helmet in my caged track car when i wrecked, if that was on the street and i wasnt wearing a helmet, id be dead.

Touche!

[Ajax]

(sold all those other goofy a** bars. Just kept the "X")

That's what I was planning. Brian, once you got it installed, how did it feel? Did you have any bracing before?

[BrianHarte]

Yeah I had everything. Couldn't tell the difference. I put ALL of my strut bars, fender braces, cage, etc. all on at the same time, so I don't really know which part did what.Mostly got it for looks.Cool.

[cubantunr]

Bam! Sexy!

[spooled240]

I bought this for my car too.

(sold all those other goofy a** bars. Just kept the "X")

It sucks. You would think that something as simple as this couldn't be messed up, right?

WRONG.

My brackets that slip over the strut tower nuts were not very good. It was a b**** to get it to fit right, but I made it work.

There are instructions either. Took me a while to figure out how to put everything together.

I do NOT suggest this part to anybody.

you bought something made by godspeed?

[BrianHarte]

Yeah... I know, right?

I didn't feel like going on a mission to find a Miracle Cross bar, so I figured I could get this one for much cheaper and just drive and pick it up. Well, that sort of worked. lol.

Like I said in my other post, I figured it would be difficult to mess up something like a strut bar, but they sure did. Hilarious.

Also, it comes with a Godspeed metal emblem on it. -100 points for that.

IF you get this bar, please get a hammer and chisel and take the stupid emblem off. There is no reason to show the world that you have a Godspeed part.