Glenn Beck ambushed

[telcoman]

By a group of woman

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#30855994

I find it hard to believe that there are still people that actually listen and believe Beck, O'Reilly, Savage, Limbaugh, & Ingram and the rest of the loons that peddle total BS to the declining number of republican voters.

Telcoman

[HashiriyaS14]

the loons that peddle total BS to the declining number of republican voters.

^^This and your thread title are a little much. You'll find I slightly edited your title. The content/topic of the thread is fine, but tone down the wording in the future.

[telcoman]

No problem

I actually like your title better.

I should have given it more thought

[hsckris]

I find it hard to believe that there are still people that actually listen and believe Beck, O'Reilly, Savage, Limbaugh, & Ingram and the rest of the loons that peddle total BS to the declining number of republican voters.

You start this topic with insults and expect a legitimate response?

You are ridiculous.

[HashiriyaS14]

You start this topic with insults and expect a legitimate response?

You are ridiculous.

^^Note to you. If I've already called someone out on something, you don't need to.

Did anyone actually watch this video yet? I can't stream stuff at work, so I haven't been able to. Anyone want to summarize precisely what the lie was and how he got caught?

[hsckris]

Note to you. If I've already called someone out on something, you don't need to.

My bad.

Did anyone actually watch this video yet? I can't stream stuff at work, so I haven't been able to. Anyone want to summarize precisely what the lie was and how he got caught?

For one thing it is an MSNBC video. IMO a horribly bias source, and not only that, but it was Olbermann.

Glenn Beck got "called out" by the view. 1) I'm not sure that it is truly possible to get called out by the view. 2) If it is, he was talking about seating that was or was not reserved on a train. Basic thrust is that he was on a train with Whoopie & Barb. Walters. Somebody said the seats were reserved. Before appearing on the view he commented about it on his show. 3) He apparently 'lied' about who approached who on his show, and wasn't given an opportunity to explain it (from what I could tell -- the video was likely edited for Olbermann).

[HashiriyaS14]

^^Okay, sounds pretty irrelevant. Just checking.

Rebuttals/other summaries welcomed, of course.

Is it bad that I couldn't pick Glenn Beck out of a lineup? I've never watched him, ever.

[Cold_Zero]

Howie,I am sure that Glenn Beck is a big boy and can handle any scrutiny from "The View." I would bet that the drama presented by Beck was just an attempt to garner sympathy and boost his ratings. *shrug*

But I do take issue with your perception that no one is listening to Hannity, Savage, Beck and et al. To be honest, Conservative (namely Political) talk radio shows have far higher rating and advertisement dollars than that of Liberal (far and left of center) talk radio shows. Last time I checked Clear Channel, Talk Radio Network and Citadel Media were not filing bankruptcy, unlike Air America (who got bought out) and to be honest... Print Media follows the same paradigm.

I find it ironic that left of center and (probably further) left News Papers are complaining that their advertisements are down and their readerships are down. Yet a right of center, Wall Street Journal doesn't appear to be complaining of the same thing. I guess the final moniker of 'Success' will be weather or not you take Federal Bail Out Money and are propped up by the Federal Government when they start taking on that industry. Which I am sure to liberals is a badge of honor and the very definition of 'SUCK-cess.'

What I do find ironic is that these 'Conservative' Political Talk show Hosts at the outset of the 2008 Presidential Campaign all started referring to themselves as 'Independent Conservatives.' Apparently, trying to distance themselves from the GOP. I do find it a bunch of BUNK when guys like Hannity, Rush and Levin (to name only a few) do this. They have been and always will be in lock step with the Republican Party. Now guys like Michael Savage are the exception. As far back as I have been listening to him, he has always ranted against what GW Bush has done to the Conservative movement with his 'Language, Borders, Culture. STUPID!' motto.

I guess the Savage Nation is to me, what Sirius 101 Howard Stern channel is to you! *grin*

[HashiriyaS14]

^^As far as I'm aware, Bud is spot on here.

The listener bases for conservative talk has gone UP since the "GOP Implosion of 2008", particularly in the case of Limbaugh. The number of self-identified Republicans has indeed been plummeting, but it's still a HUGE swath of the population, and within that group the percentage that listens to conservative talk is skyrocketing.

That said, the average Limbaugh listener is something like 67 years old and rising. I'm sure Hannity draws a younger crowd, but it's still probably on the older side. This is a problem they need to address over the long term, but over the short term, rest assured that the recent trauma in the GOP has not had much effect on the popularity of these commentators, and if it has, it's made them MORE popular within their demographic.

**I might be off on the particulars of the age stuff, so if I'm only off by a little, don't bother correcting me. I'm just making the general point that it tends to be an older audience in relative terms to, say, Job Stewart's audience or Olbermann's audience (AFAIK, again).

[VersaMG08]

Just to make it clear, Glenn Beck is Libertarian and he even said so.

[Cold_Zero]

I know Neal Boortz is a libertarian and Beck probably is as well. With that said, Beck does lean closer to the GOP side than a full fledged Libertarian.

[telcoman]

Howie,I am sure that Glenn Beck is a big boy and can handle any scrutiny from "The View." I would bet that the drama presented by Beck was just an attempt to garner sympathy and boost his ratings. *shrug*

But I do take issue with your perception that no one is listening to Hannity, Savage, Beck and et al. To be honest, Conservative (namely Political) talk radio shows have far higher rating and advertisement dollars than that of Liberal (far and left of center) talk radio shows. Last time I checked Clear Channel, Talk Radio Network and Citadel Media were not filing bankruptcy, unlike Air America (who got bought out) and to be honest... Print Media follows the same paradigm.

I find it ironic that left of center and (probably further) left News Papers are complaining that their advertisements are down and their readerships are down. Yet a right of center, Wall Street Journal doesn't appear to be complaining of the same thing. I guess the final moniker of 'Success' will be weather or not you take Federal Bail Out Money and are propped up by the Federal Government when they start taking on that industry. Which I am sure to liberals is a badge of honor and the very definition of 'SUCK-cess.'

What I do find ironic is that these 'Conservative' Political Talk show Hosts at the outset of the 2008 Presidential Campaign all started referring to themselves as 'Independent Conservatives.' Apparently, trying to distance themselves from the GOP. I do find it a bunch of BUNK when guys like Hannity, Rush and Levin (to name only a few) do this. They have been and always will be in lock step with the Republican Party. Now guys like Michael Savage are the exception. As far back as I have been listening to him, he has always ranted against what GW Bush has done to the Conservative movement with his 'Language, Borders, Culture. STUPID!' motto.

I guess the Savage Nation is to me, what Sirius 101 Howard Stern channel is to you! *grin*

Hello Bud

Nice to hear from you. I guess you've been busy cleaning your guns and getting ready for the long weekend?

I believe it was you that urged me during the presidential campaign to listen to some right wing programs>

Well i put a season pass on my TIVO for OReilly and I sometimes can't believe the items that concern him.

Anyway the reason I made the OP is that Glenn Beck appears on Fox which proclaims it is fair and balanced. That is very far from the truth.In fact if you watch the MSNBC video Beck admits that he is not an investigative reporter, nor a regular reporter but claims he is a commentator that does not check his so called facts.

I guess the Savage Nation is to me, what Sirius 101 Howard Stern channel is to you! *grin*

Since you brought up Stern, he had ex GOV Jessie Ventura a few days ago. During a discussion of torture (he is a former Navy Seal) Jessie stated that "given a waterboard, one hour, and d!ck Cheney, he would have him confessing to the Sharon Tate murders"Very interesting interview.

But I do take issue with your perception that no one is listening to Hannity, Savage, Beck and et al. To be honest, Conservative (namely Political) talk radio shows have far higher rating and advertisement dollars than that of Liberal (far and left of center) talk radio shows. Last time I checked Clear Channel, Talk Radio Network and Citadel Media were not filing bankruptcy, unlike Air America (who got bought out) and to be honest... Print Media follows the same paradigm.

That may be true in rural America but it is clear the numbers on the right are declining. The Republican party continues to show a lack of leadership and any alternatives to the direction President Obama is leading the country.

Hope you have a nice Memorial Day weekend. Please be careful and don't shoot anyone.

Telcoman

[USsil80]

Howie,

I find it ironic that left of center and (probably further) left News Papers are complaining that their advertisements are down and their readerships are down. Yet a right of center, Wall Street Journal doesn't appear to be complaining of the same thing. I guess the final moniker of 'Success' will be weather or not you take Federal Bail Out Money and are propped up by the Federal Government when they start taking on that industry. Which I am sure to liberals is a badge of honor and the very definition of 'SUCK-cess.'

MY thing is... how can a media source take federal money, they are bias no matter what they say.... if the GOVT bails out someone with federal views that can sway voters, is that abuse of power? can the GOVT keep the opions they want alive and those they don't like, let them die.... i can't stand what the GOVT is doing with the FREE market and how they are trying to control what we buy, see and who is worthy of BAILOUT money... and yes i know it started with Bush

SORRY about thread jack

[hsckris]

In fact if you watch the MSNBC video Beck admits that he is not an investigative reporter, nor a regular reporter but claims he is a commentator that does not check his so called facts.

1) Beck isn't a reporter, nor does he pretend to be. Hence why his show is called "Glenn Beck" and not "Fox News." He is no more or less a reporter than Olbermann or any of the other pundits on the left.... they are all playing the same game, just on different sides of the ball.

2)Beck didn't "claim" that he doesn't check his facts. He was asked the question whether or not he checks his facts. Olbermann cut the video before Beck offered an answer. It is possible that he 1)answered 2)didn't answer. In either case, watching the video you linked alone does not show what happened.

[themadscientist]

How is the view still on? I swear, Whoopie needs a punch in the mouth. So annoying.

[HashiriyaS14]

Whoopie needs a punch in the mouth. So annoying.

She needs to go back to doing Star Trek.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Just to make it clear, Glenn Beck is Libertarian and he even said so.

Libertarian is pretty much a buzzword these days.

[ishkabibble]

To be honest, Conservative (namely Political) talk radio shows have far higher rating... Print Media follows the same paradigm.

Old farts like old formats.

[themadscientist]

I hear taking it in the butt is catching on. That's another thing I don't do. I must be old.

[Repo Man]

Eh, those on the left like to disparage Fox News, but the facts are the facts. NONE of the other channels can hold a candle to them when it comes to ratings. If it were just far right nuts that watched Fox News, there is no way their ratings could be that good.

The best, most-researched talk show on currently is the Wilkow Majority, hosted by Andrew Wilkow. He's 36 and has a young listenership that is growing daily.

Howard, your comments toward Bud not shooting anyone are as asinine as they are ignorant and irresponsible. Nice work.

[telcoman]

Howard, your comments toward Bud not shooting anyone are as asinine as they are ignorant and irresponsible. Nice work.

I didn't want to see Bud end up like d!ck Cheney

http://politicalhumor.about.co...g.htm

Actually Bud seems to have a good sense of humor as we've been each other for years

You should just lay back and enjoy the democratic ride.

It looks as though it is going to be a long one

Telcoman

[Repo Man]

You should just lay back and enjoy the democratic ride.

It looks as though it is going to be a long one

Telcoman

Hehe, I enjoy it more and more every time Biden and Gibbs open their mouths.

[Kohster]

eh, I don't know how anyone can listen to a "commentator" like Michael Savage who believes autism is for the most part non-existent and that muslims "need deportation", and that adherents of Islam would do well to “take [their] religion and shove it up [their] behind” because he says he's sick of them.

He also said the female students from a Marin County private school who feed and provide services to the homeless "can go in and get raped by them because they seem to like the excitement of it..."

I'd like to meet the people who take this clown seriously.

[Kohster]

how come it says "last post by Cold Zero" but I cant find his post?

[telcoman]

how come it says "last post by Cold Zero" but I cant find his post?

He removed it.

Bud is a super moderator and he can do things that we mere mortals cannot

He can even ban all the liberals if he wanted to

Bud is the one that encouraged me to start watching Fox news.

I have O'Reilly on a season pass on my TIVO

His show is such BS it is really funny.

Keith Olberman keeps a close eye on him too

Telcoman

[szh]

He removed it.

Bud is a super moderator and he can do things that we mere mortals cannot

You can delete your own posts too.

He can even ban all the liberals if he wanted to

And conservatives too.

The reasons for banning never have any to do with anybody's particular political viewpoints - no matter how far they may lean to one side or the other.

Bans are handed out because of violations of the terms of conduct at NICO - the ones that we all signed up for when we started posting on this site. See the FAQ for the details.

Z

[smockers83]

eh, I don't know how anyone can listen to a "commentator" like Michael Savage who believes autism is for the most part non-existent and that muslims "need deportation", and that adherents of Islam would do well to “take [their] religion and shove it up [their] behind” because he says he's sick of them.

He also said the female students from a Marin County private school who feed and provide services to the homeless "can go in and get raped by them because they seem to like the excitement of it..."

I'd like to meet the people who take this clown seriously.

At least 98% of the time, quotes are taken out of context. One should always read before and after a selected quote to get an understanding of where the quote came from in the first place. This is a huge, huge problem in journalism and the battle for ratings/money. Mainstream journalism is barely acceptable journalism.

If anything were missing in this country these days, it is context. Nothing is taken into context anymore. Kinda sad really.

[Q451990]

I believe it was you that urged me during the presidential campaign to listen to some right wing programs>

Well i put a season pass on my TIVO for OReilly and I sometimes can't believe the items that concern him.

See - there's your problem! You were supposed to find "right wing" not "wind-bag pseudo conservative"



Heath

[heliochrome85]

this seems appropropriatehttp://blogs.suntimes.com/eber....html

go ahead, read. read the comments.

[AZhitman]

Bud is a super moderator and he can do things that we mere mortals cannot

He can even ban all the liberals if he wanted to

Is that an accusation or an insinuation?

Just because you're unfamiliar with the concept of personal integrity, does not mean the rest of us are.

Tread lightly. You're on thin ice with me already, and it has nothing to do with your hopelessly confused worldview.