Give me your opinion on Q45 body damage (eBay listing I want to buy)

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Tell me what you think of the damage on this Q45.

It looks to be mostly cosmetic, but I am worried about the "B" pillar. The doors, fenders, and rocker panel are easy.

I have offered to come test drive the car, and take a closer look.

The guy started out with a $1,500 minimum bid, and a "Buy it Now" price of $4,500. Now he is down to $1,000 minimum bid, and a $1,500 "Buy it Now" price. (Probably his wife is telling him to get rid of the car).

If I buy this car, it will be my back-up for when I am working on mine, and the replacement, when mine hits 300,000 miles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...38733

Post by **Aus94Q45** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

At 135K it hardly seems worth the effort. The transmission is shot. A new transmission, new doors, straighten the pillars, bumper covers and paint alone, not to mention the value of your labor, will exceed the value of the finished product. Then, all of the regulars that have not been done: fuel pump, water pump, under plenum hoses, knock sensors, upper links, etc, etc, . . . . . . . . Plus it will never have that factory finish paint. I would pass.

Post by **Aus94Q45** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

. . . . of course the parts may be worth the price on e-bay.

Post by **louiegz** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

With the money you'll spend to get that Q tip top, you can get a lower mileage Q, without the headaches. Wait a few years. I'll sell mine and it only has 69k on it now. I'll get myself a new G or M. It would be nice the day I sell mine that I can sell it to a NICO member.

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Aus94Q45 wrote:At 135K it hardly seems worth the effort. The transmission is shot. A new transmission, new doors, straighten the pillars, bumper covers and paint alone, not to mention the value of your labor, will exceed the value of the finished product. Then, all of the regulars that have not been done: fuel pump, water pump, under plenum hoses, knock sensors, upper links, etc, etc, . . . . . . . . Plus it will never have that factory finish paint. I would pass.

Yes, I agree.

If I could get the doors and fender($1,000), from a junked Q, then spend $1,000 getting the b-pillar straghtened (if needed - it could just be door damage), then paint it myself. The transmission is $2,000, and other necessary maintenance I can handle. It seems the car has been maintained (he put Tokiko shocks on it, which shows a general concern for driveability). The interior looks to be well-kept (also a sign of car care).

I figured $4,500 to repair the damage, $3,000 for transmission/misc. maintenance, and $1,000 for the car, puts it WAY over what a 135,000 mile 10-year old Q45 is worth ($5,500 to $7,500 with original paint).

I just wanted some other opinions. I tend to underestimate damage, when in this position.

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

louiegz wrote:With the money you'll spend to get that Q tip top, you can get a lower mileage Q, without the headaches. Wait a few years. I'll sell mine and it only has 69k on it now. I'll get myself a new G or M. It would be nice the day I sell mine that I can sell it to a NICO member.

Careful, I WILL take you up on that one.

I guess I just have a soft heart for the silver Q.

Post by **maxnix** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Three words:

Why buy wrecked?

Post by **louiegz** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Jeff Williams wrote:Careful, I WILL take you up on that one.

I guess I just have a soft heart for the silver Q.

I can see why you like silver so much. Your Silver Q is a beauty. The best one I've seen.

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

maxnix wrote:Three words:

Why buy wrecked?

There is a lot of satisfaction, in taking something ugly, and making it beautiful.

I have just about talked myself out of it. If it had TCS, and heated seats, I would jump right on it.

Although, there are a lot of parts on that car, I could use, if I ran into trouble, and I had a place to store it.

I drive nearly 70 miles, to the office each day, then many more miles, to and from jobs (some muddy). It would be nice to have a back-up car (especially a Q), if I needed one. Then I could leave one stock, and modify the other one.

I was just thinking I could get into this one, real cheap, and control the costs of repair, to keep me under the retail price.

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Hey, Louie, what color is your Q?

Post by **elwesso** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

It might be worth it just for the parts. If you really want it (for parts), id have the valve covers taken off so you can see what it looks like.... The engine alone might be worth 500, and then another 1000 for the other misc parts.

IMO, its not worth it. your buying into something that you really dont know what happened.....

Post by **louiegz** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

The dark purple with the brown leathers, Jeff.

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

There are so many nice Q's for sale at this great prices this winter it wont be worth the hassle.

The only situation I can think of is, if you are an exprerienced body guy with access to a full shop and discounted parts and you are looking for a project.

Fred..

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

I would rather spend my time restoring my old GMC truck.

I got some correspondence from the seller. He has a local offer of $1,000 for the car, and has a quote of $3,500 for the repairs.

I might go take a look at it, next weekend.

I told him of the site, so he might check us out.

Post by **louiegz** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Hey Jeff, get this one. Low mileage, silver and no need for body work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6264

Post by **nuQ** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

louiegz,

by the time i'm ready to buy, first gen Q's in good shape will be few and far between. i will be looking for a 94 or 95 in good condition, of course, through a fellow NICO member would be IDEAL. when it's time to sell, don't forget a fellow jersey boy!!!!! LOLps---grew up in jersey and work everyday in jersey, you can take the boy out of the jersey, but you cant...................you know the rest!!!! LOL

Post by **Jeff Williams** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

louiegz wrote:Hey Jeff, get this one. Low mileage, silver and no need for body work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6264

I have seen this one, before. The dealer would not give me the name of the "One Owner", or answer any questions. 2 feedbacks, and he is in Florida.

I am a little leery of this one.

I don't like used car dealerships, especially ones that give me those "used car salesman" answers.

The car looks great, though

Post by **Rex** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:33 am

Jeff - You still looking for a co-Q?

I saw that wrecked and thought, NO WAY. I've liked the looks of your Silver Q and thought of getting one and combining all the best parts between mine and it to have the best of both.

There's a IPQ 94 at my local dealer 127K and there asking (key word here asking) $9k, gotta figure they'll auction it for $4k-ish in 6 weeks.

Good luck hunting.

<be leary of TX & FL dealers:eek:>

Give me your opinion on Q45 body damage (eBay listing I want to buy)

Give me your opinion on Q45 body damage (eBay listing I want to buy)

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