getting...S14 SR

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

Good news I am getting an S14 SR instead of the S13 from Daunt... going with Flash Options because I've heard good things about them...and can't wait any longer for the motor. Wanted to have it swapped and running by this Month!

Anywayz, I'm excited because I know it will hit 300 hp with the T28. I probably wont be doing a turbo upgrade..so I'm happy

I have a quick question I am also doing an auto-->manual swap, and was in the market for a s14 driveshaft. But now that I'm getting the clip...I can just use the jdm s14 drive shaft correct?

Post by **Structure240sx** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

maybe be a slight difference depending on if u and or the other car has abs or not. if ur gettint he differencial too then u wont have a prob. the abs sensor adds about an inch onto the diff.

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

ok thnx

Post by **ItzGenX** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

Why are you getting a S14 motor? With the money you save by getting an S13, you would have enough to make it 300hp to the wheels instead of the crank, which is what an s14 with t28 turbo does--300hp will be at the crank. Only difference is the VVT. I don't want to sound like a broken record or anything but I'll post one of my old posts about the subject on why the S14 motor has VVT and why it doesnt respond to mods as well as an s13 motor, also the S14 may produce the same amount of torque but it's at a higher RPM, meaning you won't get that "push" until you reach that higher RPM--here goes.

"VVT - Continuous Intake Valve Timing. There is nothing special about this that there is to talk about. The reason for the VVT is because of the Low Intake port design used for the S14 and later SR20DETs. The Low Intake Port design is a shorter distance to the valves from the intake manifold, but must curve and go around the lifter supports. This in turn leads to less breathing due to the turbulence the intake air must go through before hitting the back of the valve. Also, being a Low Intake port design, the port literally can not contour to enter the cylinder at a good angle (and thus VVT to hold duration slighly longer to capture more air). The S13 high port design was literally a straight even path with light curvatures to get into the combustion chamber. The even amount of airflow and a good angle to enter the combustion chamber didn't need this VVT to get the even power as the S14 generation (S15 is stronger because of the turbo). Not only did the S13 motor match that of a S14, but it did everything the S14 could at a lower RPM. The change was made between the S13 and S14 motors because of the emissions standards from that of a long port. It was believed that a longer port had less "control" over emissions because of the length the air had to travel into the engine would be "delayed". With all that in mind, would you want to pay 1000 extra for something you didn't want? I personally like the High Port design of the S13 and don't need any of that other fancy stuff they changed. S13 SR20s also respond better to upgrades because of the port design takes it so well, especially turbo upgrades. Before I knew anything about the S14 and later motors, I thought they were the one to go with and the one I wanted, with a little bit of research and long chats with the Australians, you learn that VVT was sort of a cover up for Nissan having to change the port designs."

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

good luck with your purchase and swap. however the s14 t28 will only been good to about 260 rwhp. the s15 t28 will give you the 300 you are looking for with the right mods and tuning.

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

it's ok I am looking for about 300hp to the crank...

And I'm getting it for 2500 shipped, and the co. is good.

Post by **TheProfessional** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

how are you getting it for 2500 shipped? and whats the mileage on it?

Post by **s14det** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

I am getting my s14 for $2700...For me it was a better deal because I do not plan to do any internal mods or even put on a turbo until this unit goes out. I have about all the bolt-on's that Is needed. I have seen (read) people with the same setup make about 270hp at the wheels. Of course that is on the internet so it is of course %100 reliable :rolleyes

Plus the s14 belongs in the s14..

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

That's what I'm talking about. Who are you getting your engine from?

Post by **s14det** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

I am getting my engine from Brian that user to be okinawaimportmotorsports...but this summer he megered with a new company and is no SANTECA at SANTECA.com...I ordered my engine almost a year ago :bash and will be recieving it in about 2 weeks. He used to live in Okinawa for 7 years and worked at nissas there. SO he has all the connection there to get good engines. He was gone for 3 months this summer and on my paper workd it showed that my ordred had beem shipped, but was not. It took me 2 months to find out that he had merged with the new company. In Nov I drove to indy (about a 10 hour drive) and met with him and got everything sorted out. He did give me free shipping and re-did the harness for free so it is not to bad...It also allowed me to get all the Good stuff to but in the same time has I but the engine in.

Lets just say I am tired of waiting and need to feel the boost, PLus I have a room full of parts :ylsuper :ylsuper

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

nice what parts to do you have and what are u're hp goals with the motor

Post by **s14det** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

Well, I have in my room a Blitz Nur spec, Koyo Rad, KMD header with metal gaskets for turbo, HPI turbo outlet and intercooler, Greddy downpipe, spec stage 2 clutch, HKS actuater for s14,catco 3in cat, heavy throtle air filter and install kit for s14. Nismo motor mounts kit, Apexi BOV,300zx 26mm alum. brake upgrade (already installed), SVR battery,walbro fuel pump, autometer boost gauge I think that is about it. I will be ordering the greddy pulley kit and oil pan shortly. Then when the engine is done time to work on the susp.

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

sounds awesome....Whats your hp goal?

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

what do you mean you are tired of waiting? i have had s13 black tops for a while.....still do. were you told you had to wait for the s13 motors to be in stock? shaun

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

how much are your s13 blacktops and whats the mileage? what does it come with?

Post by **s14det** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

My HP goal for now with stock inj are proberly around 260 hp or so. depending if the inj are not maxed or I am not det. When ever I decide on a boost controller I will only but about 13-14 psi when I am racing or so...daily driving well proberly be about 9-10.

I am tired of waiting because it was supposed to be here last JUNE. I had called a month after I ordered the motor and it shoulfd of been shipping but he said that it still has not shipped but should be on its way and be here by JUNE...then June came and went so I called him back and no one answered the phone tried that a couple of thousnds times. So, I sent him a e-mail and he said that he was in Japan getting more stuff. Said he should be back in mid Aug and gave me a number to call him. Well called and no one ever picked up the phone and the person on the massege was not him btu someone else....After 2 months of posting forums, thinking I lost alot of money, found out he had megerd with Santeca...called and he was there....talked with him and he had forgotten all about me and said he would look into it...So after trying a couple of weeks waiting for him to find his paperwork i said screw it and drove 10 hours up there and taqlked with him face to face. just to find out he had send me a e-mail about 2 hours before I got there saying that he had found the problem. Then rest is in the other post. That is why I am tired of waiting.. Man, glad to get that out... I feel better know :uzi

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

DonDonati88 wrote:how much are your s13 blacktops and whats the mileage? what does it come with?

i have one other blacktop left. it has a tuned ecu also...$2400 plus shipping (around $150 east coast)CLEAN engine and transtuned ecuUNCUT wiring harnessmafignitor chipturbo and manifoldinjectors and railintakeall engine sensorsetc.and this baby is in stock and can be shipped out monday morning. redtops are $2200 with everything (untuned ecu)by the way, i have a ton of fwd sr20det's in stock ready to ship too.shaun

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

Hmm I would be interested in how much it would cost to ship a black top to Tampa, FL. Also, what is the ecu tuned to? What gains, etc? And how long would shipping take?

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

i need your zip. but to orlando it is $112.38 or if you need a liftgate truck and its being shipped to a residential home, its $212.30 shipping.i can't tell what the ecu is tuned for, but more then likely just timing and aggressive fuel. if you want a regular ecu, i can do that too but for the same price of $2400.this two day shipping. so if i send it out monday, it should be there wednesday or thursday.shaun

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

can you send me a picture of your black top in stock and also one of your redtops? My email is [email protected]

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

not shown are the ecu, ignitor, maf and uncut harness.but as you can see they are very clean and no oil or anything on them.

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

nice do you have any idea of the mileage? Are they compression tested? Where did you buy them from?

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

they are estimated under 30,000 miles. if you could see them in person, they are probably a lot less. they were compression tested and passed, but i don't have the specs. i'm got them from a source i get a lot stuff for. shaun

Post by **DonDonati88** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

Ok, I have to get money orders together, but email me your address at [email protected]. I should mail you out payment around nxt wednesday-ish. i will probably overnight it. So that I can have my engine the following week.

Thanks

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

check your email and call me on that number.shaun

Website · Post by **cpt276** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

I've read the post as to the differences between the s13(non vvt) & s14(vvt) engines. I understand (basically) that the differences are that the vvt (s14) is emissions friendlier. If this is indeed correct, what would the measurable differences be? Let's base the differences on the assumption that both motors are stock & in equal healthy condition.

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

the s14 engine has a solenoid on the intake can that advances and retards its timing. (what adjustable sprockets do also btw. the s14 is always adjusting it.) it would in theory give you better low and mid range. even top end. but the valves are smaller and ultimatley flow less on the s14 vvt engines. its not like the neo vvl engines that sentra guy put in (aka sr16ve). be sure not to get the two confused.shaunps. the s14 does have a bigger turbo though.

Post by **TheProfessional** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

pampadori, please EMAIL me asap regarding the s13 blacktops, if we work out a deal, i can have payment to you on monday! also, please send me a pic, of the EXACT motor you have for sale. thanks man

BRETT

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:good luck with your purchase and swap. however the s14 t28 will only been good to about 260 rwhp. the s15 t28 will give you the 300 you are looking for with the right mods and tuning.

Dude they are the same turbo, the S15 has an extra tab at the wastegate exit, and the turbine wheel is inconel, other than that it's the exact same turbo, there are people on FA making 300rwhp on an S14 T28.

Having ridden in a blacktop 180 and an S14 motor back to back the S14 'felt' faster and turquier. The 180 was running 12psi of boost on a frontmount and catback, the S14 has stock sidemount and stock catback on only 7psi. That's reason enough to get the S14. I was sold on the 180 motor up untill I got a chance to play with my buddy's S14 SR lastnight.

Post by **pampadori** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:56 am

sorry professional, i sold both of the blacktops. if i happen to find anymore, i'll let you know.shaun

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