Gettin' an SR - Questions

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Alright... Been thinking about it a long time and may be getting one soon. I'd like to keep initial purchases under or close to $6500.

These are what I know I'm going to get at first:

SR20DET (of course)SPEC Stage 2 ClutchFidanza Alum. Lightweight FlywheelGReddy Alum. Racing RadiatorGReddy Intercooler KitWalbro Fuel PumpNew injectors (any reccomended?)A Catback exhaust (unsure of which type, I do like the Apexi NI Dual)

I'm getting the FMIC and new radiator because of my fear of overheating... I did that with my KA and won't with a new engine, so I'm definately getting those.

I am going to get a motor set from either Heavy Throttle or Enjuku Racing, now they come with everything elese I need, right?

I would also like to buy a set of cams too. As far as those, what would be recommended?

I am pretty much looking for about a reliable 300WHP, as it is going to be pretty much a daily driver. And of course, potential for more.

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

You need something to run the new injectors because the ECU will not send the right signal. Also it might be wise to get a boost and temp gauge (oil and water) so you know exactly how you are doing. I have the stock SR radiator and have never seen my car go above 160 degrees F.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Talk to Heavy Throttle. I got 550 Sard injectors from them.. they work great.. If your looking at 300 hp. Then the stock turbo is not going to be good. I have the Force Performance Big 28. Which is Stock housings but the internals are changed. It is one wicked turbo.. spools up at 3k and by 3500 full boost.. It 'll slam u into the seat for sure.. Don't forget a different ecu or safc. Bigger Mafs .. z32. Don't go with the apex exhaust.. everyone has them.. go with a blitz or hks.. That is quality imo. BOV? I have a blitz DD. I like it so far.. Haven't had too many complaints. good luck dude..

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Did you get that Force Performance Big 28 from Heavy Throttles, too? I like the sound of full boost by 3500.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

yeah.. i got it from Jeff at HT. I bought the whole stage I kit from them. Yeah.. the sound of that turbo is sweet. It sure does scream at 3500 doesn't it? when did you get yours..?

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

IowaSilvia_S13 wrote: Don't go with the apex exhaust.. everyone has them.. go with a blitz or hks..

:slap I hope thats now how u make all your decision in life...based on what 'everyone doesnt have'....

But anyway....

I would like you sway away from the SPEC clutch, and go for an ACT or HKS or something....i cant tell you exactly what to do, because i dont know what the car is being used for or your driving style...but i'd rather see you go for something that is proven, and not new to the market, with some shanty reviews so far...

I have a Greddy Radiator. I needed it because there was an event i was running 2 days away, and all the KOYO were backordered....i pay cost for it..and it was still way overpriced... YEs its beaaautiful, and matches the greddy fmic very well...but really there is no logical reason to pay 500+ for a radiator...i would try and find a KOYO, and have that extra money for other mods...for $200 savings, the perfomance you will recieve is not noticably different. Buy the Blitz upper radiator hose with the tap for water temperature gauge.

Buy EGT, Oil pressure, boost, and water temperature gauges.

You dont 'need' a Greddy FMIC either, if you have access to get piping, the APexi skyline cores are really the way to go...but for convinience, the greddy kits are nice.

APexi N1's are very popular, HKS makes a nice exhaust....if you want something different, and "gangsta"

, we now sell RS*R exhaust.

I'd say run the HKS SS bov.

but your not going to make 300whp without upgrading that turbo, injectors, and MAFS, with something to adjust fuel (tuned ecu, or Apexi S-AFC.)

You also should add some electric fans to your equation.

Test pipe, or highflow CAT.

might want to consider doing brakes and some suspension also

Have a good day

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I also said that because of quality.. imo. not just because everyone has them.. A lot of ppl have the apex n-1 exhaust though and not many with the hks or blitz exhaust. they are a little more pricey, but the quality is there.. not trying to knock apex or anything

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

just playin with ya

Post by **UsedToOwn240SX** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I have Spec stage 2 clutch. I really like it. Pedal pressure is quite light. I don't know about reliability etc, because so far I only got close to 500 miles on it. I second Iowasilvia's comment about big-28. It's pretty fast. Again, this is my first turbocharged car, so I can't compare it to the stock T-25, but my car definitely feels faster than a stock '95 Talon Tsi AWD that I testdrove before deciding going redtop. I can't imagine how powerful my car would be once I increase the boost (stock for now). Hmmm what's wrong with Apexi N1? I like it. I just don't like the way it came out to the left like that. That reminds of my highschool buddy who wore baggy pants and couldn't keep it straight. Josh, if you want 300 hp, fork in another 2000 bucks for a turbo package like Iowasilvia did.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

yeah.. the kit was 2400. came with FP big 28, JWT ecu, z-32 mafs, apex intake, 550 denso inj., all new gaskets and hardware. etc. then you get 450 back for sending in your sr ecu and old t-25 turbo. so it is exactly 2000 bux because of shipping of course. I received everything fast. fast fast. Very good ppl to work with. If I had any problems Jeff and Yurry were there to help out immediately. They don't piss around.. A+

Post by **sxse** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I Am about to stick in my Sr and the Grand total is about $5200, Here is what I bought:

SR20DET Font clipBlitz Nur Spec 3" cat backBlitz 3" D. PipeProject Silvia 3" Test pipeBlitz LM FMICNISMO Motor mountsACT Clutch and Press. PlateWalbro 255 fuel pump

You'll need a bigger turbo, MAFS (and modified chip/AFC), boost controler,and injectors plus the radiator, guages, and LSD if you want 300 HP. Sounds sweet but will probably cost a fair amount more than $6500.

good luck tho

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I wasn't expecting it for 6500, it would have been nice though...

I H8 UR DSM, what did you hear about the SPEC clutches? I have a stage 2 with my KA right now with a couple thousand miles on it and seems to be very nice...

I have the Sportlines and KYBs right now, and will do more with that later. But, yeah, I love good brakes. Will have to look into those soon.IowaSilvia, do you know aobut how much HP your making with that kit? It sounds pretty nice.

I have plenty more to look into and thank you all for the input, very much appreciated, and any more would be nice.

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

What head gaskets are you guys using? The stcok one, or did you put in a metal one? And what kind?

And what is that turbo extension they recommend?

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Um .. don't quite know how much.. but i would estimate 300 or maybe a tad bit more. I'm just running stock boost 8psi.. but could crank it up to 18-20.

Josh.. I've got a stock head gasket. Probably put a greddy one on sometime. and for a turbo extension.. still stock.. but probably go with a greddy or maybe one from heavy throttle if they make one.

Post by **SRdave240** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I like my spec clutch too. Ken at Enjuku said it is THE way to go.

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

So you didn't get the turbo extension and metal head gasket? I would rather not pay $140-200 for a head gasket, but would if needed. But yeah, that kit sounds good.

And what does that turbo extension do?

And which engines do you guys have? I'll either get the S13 red or black top... I've heard slight differences in them, you guys have any preferences?

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

It is has better flow thru and is larger.. Not as much back pressure also.. It'll be my next buy i suppose. maybe a downpipe too.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Um.. I have the redtop.. s14 of course has the t-28. the newer ones have the ball bearing t-28's. Also the vvt.. variable valve timing.. kinda like vtec. just more **** to worry about. I heard the red top has a better head and is way better for breathing purposes. just get a red top.. one with low miles...imo..

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Allright, shopped around and put together a list:

SR20DETHeavy Throttle HT Custom Turbo Upgrade KitWalbro High Pres. 255 Lph Koyo Alum. RadiatorGReddy Intercooler Kit V-SpecSPEC Stage 2 Clutch or ACT ClutchHKS Chromoly Steel Lightwight FlywheelEnjuku Racing GReddy BOV/Hotpipe KitGreddy 3" Downpipe3" High Flow CatAutometer Oil Pressure Gauge Autometer Boost GaugeGreddy 52mm EGT GaugeAutometer Water Temp. Gauge

I have a GReddy gauge in there because I couldn't find an Autometer one... Beleive me, I dont wanna pay over $100 for a gauge.

Does this sound like a good (and complete) start? Well, finish in terms of finances ; )

Yeah, I know I have plenty of questions, but please bear with me.

Oh yeah, I was only talking about the S13 Black and Red tops... I'm not going with any S14s or anything.

Post by **UsedToOwn240SX** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Josh,

Autometer does make EGT gauge. They call it pyrometer.

Post by **solaris22** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

hell go for a full defi B/F set, they're only $1200

Post by **worknprogress** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

300hp at 8psi Iowa??

Post by **hokiruu** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

I'd say hold off on the cams for now, you can add those later. And which Greddy FMIC do you have in mind? From what I have heard, you will be better off with the RSPL than VSPL, because alot of people have various complains about the VSPL as a kit, not that it doesn't work well as a product. I chose the Blitz LM and couldn't be happier. The Dual N1 is a nice quiet exhaust with a more subtle look, but alot of people I know have it and are happy. I personally like the bullet/canister style muffler. JIC makes some really nice ones if you're worried about being different. i waited too long on this, so I'd say invest in some decent electronic gauges, maybe even with warning and peak hold. A'pex and Greddy are the best value for this IMO. Also, you really may not need to get new and/or bigger injectors right away. IMO, get it running first with all the basic bolt on stuff, then later add injectors, larger turbo, and then cams, and tyou'll be right where you want to be ~300whp

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

i say the double posts are anoying lol

jk

Post by **Josh** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

solaris22 wrote:hell go for a full defi B/F set, they're only $1200

I looked at them... They do look good...

But not for $1200

Post by **hokiruu** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

like i said, A'pex EL2 offer almost the same features, look about as good, and cost less.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Work n progress.....I am running 8psi. my setup can run 300 hp or more after i set it at 18-20 psi. no i'm not running 300 hp on 8psi. maybe 230hp.

Post by **Wuss** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Quote »The Dual N1 is a nice quiet exhaust with a more subtle look[/quote]From personal experience, that can't be further from the truth.

The Dual N1 is by far the noisiest exhaust I have ever heard on a car. Just looking at it logically, it has 2 completely seperate mufflers and outlets, which means double the noise.

And subtle? Sorry, but 2 big canisters side by side sticking out from the bottom of your car is not subtle.

I can't argue with its build quality and good power gains, but definately not the exhaust for me. I'd rather not bring that much attention to myself.

Post by **UsedToOwn240SX** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

Yup, that N1 dual is noisy. I second that, Wuss. Heavy too. It comes out at an angle too. Performance wise, I'm pretty satisfied.

Post by **worknprogress** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:32 am

figured that's what you meant

Gettin' an SR - Questions

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