George Lucas can kiss my ***

[Hijacker]

I picked up the Trilogy DVDs today, and I'm pissed as hell. He removed David Prowse from the end of Jedi and added stupid, craptastic Hadyn Christianson in his place. I'm so mad, I can't even see straight

[Axel Grungy]

wtf tahts crazy and ghey!!! you cant just CHANGE IT!!

[Hijacker]

apparently, he thinks he can. he has some stupid bullsh1t reason for doing it.

[jEzTeR]

you can if you are the master of " The Force "



I'll be getting the DVD set soon.

[gabossie]

WTF! You can't just go CHANGING things like that!

[jdmfreak]

Damn1 thats rough. You shouldnt **** with a classick like Star Wars.

BTW, Are you aware of the reason?

[DAEDALUS]

Unrecoverable scene?

[Hijacker]

lucas said some crap about getting back to his roots or something like that, which is utter BS.

And maybe I was too mad to remember this, but it was Sabastian Shaw that played Anakin, not David Prowse. Prowse only played Vador.

[Kalok]

wtf tahts crazy and ghey!!! you cant just CHANGE IT!!

Actually, he CAN change it. It's his movie....hehehehe

I haven't purchased them yet, but I will be. The acros that played the adult Anakin Skywalker was not David Prowse.

Personally, I will reserve judgement until I see them. I plan on buying them this weekend. But I look at it this way. I saw all three of them in first-run at the theaters, yes, I was alive in 1977...hehehe So the "re-released" ones with the extra scenes he did a few years ago where already changed from the ones I remember. What more can a few changes hurt.

Like he said, "If you're getting all bent out of shape over the changes to the movie. You're taking them WAY too seriously. They're just supposed to be fun."

[Hijacker]

i've got my THX edition VHS tapes still, so I have the original release versions, even if they are digitally restored

[Axel Grungy]

but ok if you have the new kid at the end of jedi, youd have to change the scene where luke takes off vaders mask. at least have it matching

[MinisterofDOOM]

lucas said some crap about getting back to his roots or something like that, which is utter BS.

Erm....the original three movies in their original form ARE his roots. God I want to smack that man sometimes!

[Cold_Zero]

but ok if you have the new kid at the end of jedi, youd have to change the scene where luke takes off vaders mask. at least have it matching

You wouldnt have to change anything. Think about this: At the end of Return, when the three Jedis are standing there in the "Force" there is Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin. Its not Vader (who turned to the darkside) but Anakin standing with his Jedi friends. This implies that Luke was able to convert Vader back to the Force (and bring balance to the Force). He really changed the scene in order to tie episodes 1-3 with 4-6. The scene makes sense when you look at Darth Vader before and after he turned to the darkside. I dont know why people are really freaking out. When the THX remastered version of the trilogy came out, he changed a lot of the special effects from the original version. Then after the THX remastered version was released, he added some deleted scenes back in and re-released it in the movie theaters. I wouldnt be surprised that after the final episode is done, Lucas will probably change episodes 4-6 in order to gel the prequels with the trilogy.Just my opinion.bud

[Sircnay]

Yeah, but George Lucas is still a jerk who doesn't know what he's doing.

[rousie13]

He doesn't know what he's doing?? He created the whole damn thing, so I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Could you do it??? I think not, so stop sayin shi* about the man's talent.

[Hijacker]

lucas is an amazing, inginuitive man. He has wonderful ideas, the know how to implement them, but he doesn't understand that not everything can go his way. He lied, and screwed many people over making the original trilogy just to get his way.

I just wish he would leave the originals alone. They were perfect the way they were before. But he keeps feeling that he has to change them to work with his current vision of the series.

Harrison Ford said it best in one of his interviews. Lucas didn't have patience with the film making process. His major direction during New Hope was "Faster, with more intensity". Why do you think Mark Hamill sounds like he's racing to a heart attack during some of his lines? Ford also summed up Lucas' patience with actors by saying "George had this air about him that said 'It's right there. I wrote it down. Why can't you do that?'"

[MaineExport]

Well.... so you don't like the man, but you like his movies. Guess what.... you're allowed to have that opinion, just like he's allowed to do whatever he wants with his "property".

Suppose some kid liked your car a LOT, he envied you and LOVED your car. Then one day you go and put a huge $20 ebay aluminum spoiler. He HATES the change.... he loses sleep over it. He posts a thread in a movie forum about your car and the horrible changes you've made. He thinks about ripping it off the car one night just to spite YOU... but he knows it will hurt the car... leaving ugly holes in the trunk. But... who is he to tell you that the spoiler is "wrong". It's your damn car.

[skydragoness]

The original trilogy was the best (with the exception of the original trilogy that was digitally enchanced, that was better). ---'Nuff said.

Lucas cranks out the crap and people still keep buying it/eating it up. Don't encourage the man!

[Cold_Zero]

Lucas has already hinted that the Original Trilogy isnt quite where it should be compared to the image in his head.

He did compromise with the studios when making Return of the Jedi. Instead of Ewoks, he had originally planned to have the final battle occur with the Wookies. The image of wookies ripping off the heads of Storm Troopers was a bit too much for the Executives, so he had to tone it down.

Wookies Rock, Ewoks Suck.bud

[gabossie]

wookies ripping off the heads of Storm Troopers

That would have ROCKED!

[w1ngzer0]

well, star wars galaxy is dieing off. SWG the online game is a good example of a ****ty poor game

[Sircnay]

He doesn't know what he's doing?? He created the whole damn thing, so I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Could you do it??? I think not, so stop sayin shi* about the man's talent.

Uh huh... just because he's good at making universes doesn't mean he's also a great writer, director, actor, filmographer or anything else that make a movie good.

[Sircnay]

Well.... so you don't like the man, but you like his movies. Guess what.... you're allowed to have that opinion, just like he's allowed to do whatever he wants with his "property".

Suppose some kid liked your car a LOT, he envied you and LOVED your car. Then one day you go and put a huge $20 ebay aluminum spoiler. He HATES the change.... he loses sleep over it. He posts a thread in a movie forum about your car and the horrible changes you've made. He thinks about ripping it off the car one night just to spite YOU... but he knows it will hurt the car... leaving ugly holes in the trunk. But... who is he to tell you that the spoiler is "wrong". It's your damn car.

Well, I'm not making money off of my car. I'm not creating a fanbase and creating an occult following. And please, I hate it when people say "...and that's your opinion." How exactly does that retort someone's comment? It's like saying, "Takes one to know one." Yes, we know that everyone has an opinion... what is your point?

The difference between the car and the movie is that, the car isn't a multi-billion dollar industry.

[rousie13]

If he feels changing the original films to better flow with episodes 1-3, I'll trust his judgement on it. Changing the first three a little bit so all six films fit together perfectly is fine by me.

[gounc14]

Heh as far as Star Wars goes, George Lucas managed to create something far greater than himself, far greater even that the living shield of neck fat that protects his head from decapitating lightsaber strikes. Lucas was/is a great innovator in special effects, further proven by the fact that Industrial Light and Magic is still the industry lead in special effects. Lucas is, however, an awful writer, director, producer....everything else involved in the movie industry.

The fact that he made Star Wars doesn't mean he's a talented director or writer, he had a base idea which was phenomenal and needed other people to help out with it. I mean, I view The Empire Strikes Back as the best of the Star Wars movies, it's most viable as an artful motion picture, had a darker feel, and advanced the plot/characters more than any other movie, and Lucas had the least amount of input into it than any of the other films. After the first one, he actually swore he wouldn't direct another Star Wars movie, then ****ed up and went back on his word to create the salvageable abomination that is Episode 1. He took his movies and changed them into a moneymaking cash cow, targetting towards kids.

I actually don't mind his change to Christiansen, mainly because it does do a good job of tying the movies together, I just wish he had made 1-3 acceptable peers of the original trilogy. Heh I'll not post my diotribe on perfecting them here but I certainly think the spirit of the movies remains, just hidding behind a layer of dung.

[MaineExport]

Well, I'm not making money off of my car. I'm not creating a fanbase and creating an occult following.

I don't want to sound nasty or the slightest bit mean... but that statement makes you sound a tad juvenile. It's a movie for cryin' out loud! He didn't make you go watch it. He didn't twist the arms of thousands of fans. He's not the one who gave you this unhealthy obsession.

And please, I hate it when people say "...and that's your opinion." How exactly does that retort someone's comment?

It wasn't intended to "retort" your comment. I'm not trying to take away from or refute your argument in anyway. It's just my useless opinion that you are taking it WAYYYYYY too seriously. From where I stand... it's his movie and if you don't like it you don't have to support it with your financial contribution.

I see what you are saying.... and to a certain extent I agree. I was obviously interested enough in the issue to read the thread. As a matter of fact I was interested enough that I felt compelled to make a statement on the issue. You can feel ripped off all you want.... but you run the risk of looking like a spoiled little brat with some misplaced sense of entitlement. Just because you watched his movies and bought his DVD's doesn't mean Lucas owes you the slightest bit of consideration.

The difference between the car and the movie is that, the car isn't a multi-billion dollar industry.

Suppose your car was a multi-billion dollar industry. Would you be any more inclined to cater to the desires of a fraction of its fans that said no to the spoiler? It's your "art".... will you let your art be corrupted by gainsayers?

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Modified by MaineExport at 7:34 AM 9/25/2004

[Mr1der]

it's ok guys, George Lucas also wanted the Nazis to win in Raiders but Speilberg told him to quote "suck it"

I'm making that up. But rest assured, Lucas will go to hell anyway...