Gauging Intrest: Vortech S/C

[adidas2go]

I didn't expect them to come up with something like this.... pretty lame of them. If turbochargers.com took a risk in this 'non-existing' market why can't they? I know that they're two different products but you'd think Vortech could handle it.

read my last post, in its entirety, and you will answer your own question.

[Robs_altima]

I think it's going to be tough to get a good number of people to pick up a s/c or anything that will kill the factory warranty. A lot of people aren't as far along in mods to even consider F/I, most are concerned with exhausts, intakes, wheels ect. I'm still cautious with F/I, especially on a car I spent over $30k and still owe $20 on. Just imagine blowing an engine and trying to get the warranty going. Trust me, I would absolutely love to start boosting again, just thinking about the longevity of my car. I can't stress how important the tune will be. Lets see what Vortec desides to do and how they would go about putting this kit together.

[Frank @ VORTECH]

Hey guys check it out. I just got in touch with Brian at Vortech and we narrowed it down to this. Vortech doesn't believe there is a market for this kit because I am the very first person to contact them it. Of course they dont see everyday the interest that arises everytime the words "forced induction" are mentioned. So what we need to do is vote more and post more, I would even start calling them and telling them that there is a market for this car. If we do not show that there is indesputible evidence to make this kit, they want a sum of 20,000 to foot 1/5 of the costs to develop the kit. They did say that whoever donated what, that the money would be a down payment towards the kit that you wanted. IE- I put in $1,000 and the kits cost $4,000. My final cost, when the kit is produced would be $3,000. However, I told him there is a slim to none chance, that a group of tuners, would foot 20 grand into something that doesn't exist. There are over 700 views to this thread, and only 35, or so, votes. Why is that? Also, I have linked this thread to them in an email and they will be reading it. WE NEED TO UP THE INETREST, PRONTO

Modified by adidas2go at 8:49 AM 3/26/2008

We appreciate all of your interest in Vortech. The main things to ascertain prior to anything else is whether or not a system can be feasibly engineered for the 3.5L Coupe, and whether or not a certain price point can be met.

Just to avoid any potential confusion, if Vortech were to develop a Supercharger System for the 2008 Altima the 3.5L would be the only model we would look into engineering.

50 State smog/emissions legality is something we obtain for all of our directly sold, 100% complete systems. However, these systems are almost never emissions legal when they are initally released for sale to the public. Getting a system exempted by the California Air Resources Board is a long process that can easily take upwards of six months from submission of product to exemption order issued. Once the E.O. number has been issued, the resulting exemption is retroactive for all the previously sold systems of that year/make/model vehicle.

One of the main determining factors in deciding to produce any system is pricing. Estimating pricing on an as of yet undeveloped system would be difficult at best, but our existing systems for the 03-06 Nissan 350Z and Infiniti G35 with the 3.5L VQ35DE has an MSRP price of $5,945.95. In addition, the 3.5L engine in the Altima is transversely mounted; making the likelihood of an Altima system requiring an extended driveshaft (similar to the one posted previously from the Scion TC) quite high. If you take into account the additional cost of the extended driveshaft to the system, you are now talking about a supercharger system that will retail somewhere in the vicinity of $6,500.00. With the current financial conditions the way that they are, we believe that a MSRP of $6,500.00 would be pricing ourselves out of the market.

[mcheddadi]

6500$

"With the current financial conditions the way that they are, we believe that a MSRP of $6,500.00 would be pricing ourselves out of the market. "

Soo true.

[windex]

We appreciate all of your interest in Vortech. The main things to ascertain prior to anything else is whether or not a system can be feasibly engineered for the 3.5L Coupe, and whether or not a certain price point can be met.

Just to avoid any potential confusion, if Vortech were to develop a Supercharger System for the 2008 Altima the 3.5L would be the only model we would look into engineering.

50 State smog/emissions legality is something we obtain for all of our directly sold, 100% complete systems. However, these systems are almost never emissions legal when they are initally released for sale to the public. Getting a system exempted by the California Air Resources Board is a long process that can easily take upwards of six months from submission of product to exemption order issued. Once the E.O. number has been issued, the resulting exemption is retroactive for all the previously sold systems of that year/make/model vehicle.

One of the main determining factors in deciding to produce any system is pricing. Estimating pricing on an as of yet undeveloped system would be difficult at best, but our existing systems for the 03-06 Nissan 350Z and Infiniti G35 with the 3.5L VQ35DE has an MSRP price of $5,945.95. In addition, the 3.5L engine in the Altima is transversely mounted; making the likelihood of an Altima system requiring an extended driveshaft (similar to the one posted previously from the Scion TC) quite high. If you take into account the additional cost of the extended driveshaft to the system, you are now talking about a supercharger system that will retail somewhere in the vicinity of $6,500.00. With the current financial conditions the way that they are, we believe that a MSRP of $6,500.00 would be pricing ourselves out of the market.

Thanks for posting on the forums with the info. Just wondering do your kits normally include intercoolers? and yea i think $6500 would be kinda steep for F/I.

[adidas2go]

so unfortunate. all kinds of effort just dumped down the drain

[dldjros69]

Well you tried. I was excited for a bit.

How bout K and N making a short ram or a ccai?

Give them a jingle

[AltiCoupeDriver]

I remember Stillen mentioning a supercharger or something. There will be something in the future guys, just give it some time.

[adidas2go]

Yea STILLEN will most likely create something, I just really thought Vortech was going to see the potential

[windex]

Yea STILLEN will most likely create something, I just really thought Vortech was going to see the potential

What potential? Would you buy a $6500 SC kit?

[FGFCacoupe]

Stillen will come through as they always do. I just really hope that it doesnt take long at all.

[adidas2go]

What potential? Would you buy a $6500 SC kit?

The potential of the community to want to buy a kit. Check it out. The more kits they sell in a group buy, the less the cost of the kit. They said the 350z kit costs 6k. You can find it on the net for 5k, easy. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if the kit was much cheaper than 6.5k

[Robs_altima]

The market is there for the Z's because one it's been out for years now and people have money to burn and two it's a rear wheel drive sports car. I'm not saying they wouldn't have a market with the A/C, just give it time. The price is high but who really pays the MSRP on anything anymore. I paid $4000 for the TRD S/C when it was first released and I had one of the first. It was not intercooled but the big plus was the full ECU reflash and it kept the factory warranty no questions asked for the remainder of my 100k mile. I'll never mind paying for something with top notch quality.

[h8ncops]

i would love to have 1 on my 2.5 cvt cant wait

[windhaven]

Hey guys,

We are an authorized Vortech distributor and if they decide to make this kit then we will definitely carry it.

One thing to consider is that they have CARB legality and a 3 year, 36,000 mile engine warranty on their 350Z and G35 kits...

This is exactly why we need to support this effort to influence Vortech......much of the headache of the aftermarket turbo setup is avoided with features like the above (Of course, Nissan will not support the engine warranty still if there's a blow), but it would sure be nice to have a major component like this covered so that if the failure impacts the engine there's some additional coverage...

-- Wind

-- Wind

[mpbclutch33]

I would love to see a budget friendly S/C for the A/C. As much as I would love to turbo this car, For the long run on the engine, being a daily driver and personally think the A/C really needs help off the line verses waiting for the boost to kick in. I think the 3.5L pull pretty hard after about 3,500 RPM to Redline. We need help lower in the powerband and if a S/C will do this I am all for it.