Gauging interest in a group buy of JDM R32 Skyline VLSD 4:08's for your Q????

[redmanfx]

I've found a company who imports them and is expecting a container of stuff including these pumpkins shortly. I'm only gauging interest as this seems to be the best and easiest way to get a 4:08 for your Q. I only need to be clear on one thing. What year skylines had the 4:08?

These would have come from HCR32 skyline chassis (which is the GTS and I'm not sure they will work- I'm checking) and from the BNR32, which is the GTR. Price will be worked out later. If you could, ....would you buy this item??? You would need to buy a companion flange and the J30 speedo from Joe to install on the Q, but that's all. So is anyone interested???
Modified by redmanfx at 2:21 AM 8/31/2006

[AZhitman]

I'll take one. Mine is whining.

[off2sobe]

I'd take one.

[redmanfx]

Hey guys take a look at this JDM R32 GTS LSD on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1This Differential looks similar to what I have on the Q. Can you tell the difference? It's a 5 bolt. Just need to know if it's a 4:08 or 3:96 or what. I only ask because the GTS LSD is so much less expensive to get then the GTR LSD. I think REX should call up the guys selling it and have them Chalk it and spin it to see how many times it turns. Then we'll know. I'm to chicken to do it...balk, balk..

Anyway if a R32 GTS LSD works like the R32 GTR LSD then we're better off. They're easier to get and cheaper. I'm only looking at the R32's and not the R33's and R34's. I Only want 89 thru 94.

This is the best Mod I have seen for the Q and if I can get the answers about the GTS vs. GTR LSD answered then we'll have something most anyone can do for a decent price.

[redmanfx]

O.K. I found out the R32 skyline GT-R LSD has the 6 bolt axle pattern and the GTS has the 5 bolt pattern, so there you have it. We need the R32 GT-R LSD for that reason!!(less work). With the GTS LSD or even the Z32 NA VLSD(basically both the same) you'd have to swap the internals with the Q's differential. Which leaves room for error and we've had some failures here trying to do so with some successes as well.

So with the Q companion flange(which you can take off your Q's differential) and the J30 3:96 speedo(about $23.00 from Joe) and the GT-R LSD your set with minimal work. The only thing is that these R32 Skyline GT-R LSD's are not exactly cheap.

Let me work on pricing with these guys and see what I can do.

[superuber]

I would be VERY interested in one! My current 408 is working well, but it would be nice to have a spare (150 shot NOS=STRESS!). Let us know as soon as possible on price and how long till you can getthem. The 408 I built has been good now for 6k miles or so, but I don'thave a spacer for it and it's not exactly the best way to do it. Although,it has held up. How many can you get?

[heywier427]

def interested, but i need to see a price to confirm!

but just to clarify. if we use the 300z na internals in the q diff, along with the speedo ring we get the same effect? just more work?

[superuber]

but just to clarify. if we use the 300z na internals in the q diff, along with the speedo ring we get the same effect? just more work?

Any 408 from a z will work. Just use the ring and pinion.As far as the speedo gear you need it either way.and yes, it is more work than buying the GTR.

http://community.webshots.com/user/neheadsuperuber

[redmanfx]

def interested, but i need to see a price to confirm!

but just to clarify. if we use the 300z na internals in the q diff, along with the speedo ring we get the same effect? just more work?

Correct. The Z32 Na diff's have the 5 bolt axle flanges plus a couple of other things cause more complications, so the best thing to do is swap the ring and pinion with one in the a Q's differential. This is not for the regular diy'r unless you know what you are doing. A couple of guys have had this professionaly done and it still blew up or have a bad whine. Then again a couple of guys have done it themselves and haven't had a problem. I am presently looking to get another pumpkin case for my Q and go this route myself as I have a Z32 NA VLSD already and do a write-up with pics so we have an article here for folkes who want to know how.

The other way is the R32 GT-R LSD with the 6 bolt axle flanges which I'm working on getting a supply of now. Lowest price right now for just one is $450 plus shipping($90 or so). If someone wants this one then let me know so I can hook you up with the seller. I think you can put a non-refundable deposit for half right now and pay the other half when the container arrives at their door. Or... pay $450 latter after they get it. They were expecting the container today or early next week.

superuber,I'm checking with at least 8 different Importers right now here in the U.S, 3 in Canada and 2 in Ausie Land, so I'm not sure what volume they can pull at this point. Some have gotten back to me shoving the Tomei 2-Way and Nismo GT LSD at me, which are some bad *** Pro Drifting LSD's, but at $1200 plus shipping they're way out, not to mention they have the 5 bolts axle flanges. I can get one GT-R LSD now and Monday I should be hearing back from my main Importer, so I'll know more then. There's also these guys in Australia. The price is $482.36 for the LSD, but shipping will kill you. http://www.tweakit.net/shop/pr...=1001Anyway that's for someone who wants one right now.

One will be on e-bay as well shortly. Maybe withing the week.

[si]

The GTR diffs aren't viscous lsd, they are 2way mechanical and are 4.11. Try and get a normal GTR diff and not a vspec as they are an Active-LSD and have an oil pump on them which applies pressure to the plates to lock it and is all computer controlled. As far as i'm aware it wont do much without the computer and sensors unless you just wire up a relay to activate the pump and have it lock on demand.

[Ozzie]

This is good info.Thanks si and redmanfx

[Badfish]

Hey guys take a look at this JDM R32 GTS LSD on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1This Differential looks similar to what I have on the Q. Can you tell the difference? It's a 5 bolt. Just need to know if it's a 4:08 or 3:96 or what. I only ask because the GTS LSD is so much less expensive to get then the GTR LSD. I think REX should call up the guys selling it and have them Chalk it and spin it to see how many times it turns. Then we'll know. I'm to chicken to do it...balk, balk..

Anyway if a R32 GTS LSD works like the R32 GTR LSD then we're better off. They're easier to get and cheaper. I'm only looking at the R32's and not the R33's and R34's. I Only want 89 thru 94.

This is the best Mod I have seen for the Q and if I can get the answers about the GTS vs. GTR LSD answered then we'll have something most anyone can do for a decent price.

That auction is for a 4.36 viscous differential that the HCR32 GTS-t skylines had. I bought one a year ago from the same company(J-hot) and it's currently on my 240sx.

Sorry if this question has been answered already.

[redmanfx]

Just an update. I'm getting quotes back from JDM Importers now on the R32 GTR differentials with the 6 bolt axle flanges. So far I've got a low cost provider at $342 - $385 USD plus shipping......From Canada, so let me continue to get more info on discounts and more specific shipping info.

So.... Let me ask this... If you could get one(R32 GTR diff) how much would you be willing to pay for this item? Keep in mind that this is the easiest way to get a 4:11 rear end with the least amount of installation required. In other words the most bang for your Buck..

Please, let me get some responses to gauge what I can do here. Thanks all.

[superuber]

I would be willing to go $500 or more. Do those 6 boltflanges bolt right up?(I bet the lexus doesn't look like this under that hood! )

[redmanfx]

Do those 6 boltflanges bolt right up?

(I bet the lexus doesn't look like this under that hood! )

My Lexus looks nothing like the Q under the hood! 6cyl raised on a pedestal Camry is what it is. After I bought it I changed the Intake manifold gasket and was glad it's a glorified Camry instead of my Q!!

The 6 bolt axle flanges should bolt right up to our half axles. I'm trying to get these for well under $400.

[3Q Jay]

Red- appreciate what you're doing and the persistence. i'm on the fence right now, but watching with interest.

[redmanfx]

I give to you the R32 GTR LSD with the six bolt axle flange. best to have a visual of the prize!

I found a way to have these shipped used right to your door on a per order basis straight from Japan for about $700 Canadian which is $599 USD. The cost of the LSD is not bad at all but real expense is about the shipping from Japan.

I'm still working on better deals and you can find them cheaper, but all depends on whether or not they are in stock or not. Just an update to keep you informed.
Modified by redmanfx at 3:22 PM 9/6/2006

[superuber]

The case is not the same as my 95. My abs senor is in the front,on the input flange. I could make it work, but on my 95 I may need to swap the cases. I think the older Q's have the sensorin the outputs. Also, I bolted an older Q diff up and it pushed my drive shaft forward a little because of the different inputflange. (no abs sensor). Keep in mind I DO NOT have tractioncontrol. That will cause even more hassles! Is that a 4:11? 600 at my door?
Modified by superuber at 4:06 PM 9/6/2006

[redmanfx]

600 to the door. And you have to pay first. But that is just one option I'd thought I'd pass along, not necessarily the one I want for us. Some may want this fast. One will be on E-bay in about a week. Buy it now for $450 and shipped for $90 or so from GA. This is all about fact finding and getting a definate set of cans and cannots established, so that we as a whole know what will work and what won't. Your experience is invaluable to us(me). Anything that you notice or can see helps. As far as I've learned all the GTR LSD's are 4:11's and not 4:08's, so I'm trying to find out for sure by translating some Japanese web sites with the specs and getting contacts there. I find it fun. Location of ABS sensors and the like is important to know on these Diffs' that's why I had to have a pic. I wish Jeff Williams would send a pic of his GTR LSD to compare.

Anyway I'll keep updating as I find out more. You can email me a [email protected] for more specific info if you'd like.

[redmanfx]

O.K. Here's another update. This is what I've found on shipping directly from Japan.

I can get the GTR LSD shipped to you at any time with a company in Canada. Shipped from Japan to you. BNR32 rear diff 6 bolt flange: $400 CAD = $342.38 USDYou can ship one of two different ways:Shipping via SAL Air 7-9 day: $300 CAD = $256.79 USD Shipping via SAL Surface 4-6 weeks: $150 CAD = $128.39 USDYou also get a tracking number to watch the progress of the shipment. This is for those who want to order now. Going the Surface shipping and waiting the 4-6 weeks comes out to $470.77 totall. Not bad from what i've found so far.

I've also been in contact with two NICO members in Japan checking things for me as far as specs go(ABS sensor location, gearing, electronic controls etc..) and I just want to say thanks to Themadscientist and Neal for checking on things for me. Please don't contact them with anymore questions as they are very busy and will get back to me when they can.

Of course I am still checking many options and will get back when I find any new breaking leads about picking these units up here in the states.

[superuber]

That price sounds much better!I may get one just for the gears! I'll let you know when.Keep us posted....oh yeah...thanks!

[3Q Jay]

The case is not the same as my 95. My abs senor is in the front,on the input flange. I could make it work, but on my 95 I may need to swap the cases. I think the older Q's have the sensorin the outputs. Also, I bolted an older Q diff up and it pushed my drive shaft forward a little because of the different inputflange. (no abs sensor). Keep in mind I DO NOT have tractioncontrol. That will cause even more hassles! ]

super- i blieve the case in the photo is for a car with 4-channel ABS (a TCS car). on your '95 if only the ABS sensor in front would make sense if you have no TCS as that was not a true 4-channel set-up.

still looking for the definitive answer on this GTR LSD being a VLSD or an electro-mechanical LSD.

[redmanfx]

Jay, GTR LSD is not VLSD. I've found that out. Still trying to find out exactly what 2 way mechanical is all about. I know James has one in his car and Jeff is going to have one in his car so they gotta work.

[si]

Jay, GTR LSD is not VLSD. I've found that out. Still trying to find out exactly what 2 way mechanical is all about.

I would try explain it but i think this will do a better job: Click me

So basicly a mechanical will kick in quicker and can transfer more torque than a viscous.

[redmanfx]

Outstanding si!! Thanks for that link.

[Jeff Williams]

Great information.

I have the companion flange and mounts in the garage. When I get back from my vacation, I will install the GTR rearend. I may do a couple more 1/4 mile runs with the stock VLSD in the car before I install the MLSD. I doubt the rearend will change the overall 1/4 mile times, but should help my 60' times a bit.

I wil ltry to take some pics of the install. I don't have a lift, but might be able to score one, since the friend that is helping me has access to 3 of them in his father's shop.

[bruce.weiland]

Red,

This tread seems to have died. Is there new information.

I have a '94' Q45a with traction control. Is there a 4.11 that would bolt right in?

What is the current cost?

Thanks,

Bruce

[lino]

bump

[Haitian_King]

Question.

What the hell will this do for my Q. And why would I want it?

I just don't know what any of this is, and all the technical jargon is going over my head.

[Haitian_King]

Still no answer i see.