Garrett t3 help

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:58 am

Ok i just bought this Garrett t3 turbo for 250 is that a good deal? http://www.tamparacing.com/for....html

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:04 am

aslo there is almost no shaft play.

Post by **night240** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:04 am

looks good deal to me.

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:04 am

Well, obviously you thought so since you bought it.

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:11 am

AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Well, obviously you thought so since you bought it.

Ya i was just double checking i also have some questions what parts do i need besides a mani to go top mound and what psi can it do?

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:13 am

Well, if you're that lost I hope you aren't installing the turbo yourself.

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:51 am

dude if your not helping me,dont post stupid s*** idk much about turbos so what.

Post by **night240** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:05 am

you will brad lines and such boost gauge etc n turbo timer. fmic etc...

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:13 am

i basic like fmic just what do i need to change from bottom mount to top mount?

Post by **ashibah83** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:12 am

modify your downpipe, modify your IC piping, a top nount manifold, a wastegate if you dont already have an external one, and heat shielding for you Brake Master Cylinder

i wouldnt push i past maybe 15psi, it will start generation A LOT of heat

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:31 am

thanks man helped alot

Post by **1SickSilvia** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:33 am

Also there is alot of help in the KA-T section on the forum regarding your questions.zeroforum?id=170

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:58 am

1SickSilvia wrote:Also there is alot of help in the KA-T section on the forum regarding your questions.zeroforum?id=170

Thanks man im looking trew there right now.

Post by **Skilz10179** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:48 pm

It looks like a 50 trim, should be good for 200whp and very fast spool. If you're looking for more power its not a good buy...

Post by **ashibah83** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:24 pm

im gonna say, 230 hp

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:55 pm

damn i thought it could do atleast 300 its going on a s13 sr20.im thinking of selling it to a buddy.

Post by **ashibah83** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:22 pm

whoops....meant 300 max

Post by **Skilz10179** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:22 pm

S13-Chuki wrote:damn i thought it could do atleast 300 its going on a s13 sr20.im thinking of selling it to a buddy.

300whp isn't going to happen with any T3 compressor, at least not without pushing it beyond its limits with a really agressive tune (race gas).

I've seen T3 "Super 60's" with a .82 turbine housing pump out around 270whp but thats pushing it. Its hard to know exactly which compressor wheel you have without measuring the inducer and exducer but it looks like a 50 trim. A 50 trim T3 with a .48 a/r turbine housing is good for about 200whp but thats it. It could build lots of low end power but it will run out of breath long before redline.

Post by **ashibah83** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:27 pm

Skilz10179 wrote:
300whp isn't going to happen with any T3 compressor, at least not without pushing it beyond its limits with a really agressive tune (race gas).

I've seen T3 "Super 60's" with a .82 turbine housing pump out around 270whp but thats pushing it. Its hard to know exactly which compressor wheel you have without measuring the inducer and exducer but it looks like a 50 trim. A 50 trim T3 with a .48 a/r turbine housing is good for about 200whp but thats it. It could build lots of low end power but it will run out of breath long before redline.

are you on crack???

i know of WAY too many people pushing good numbers with t3 frames, a good friend of mine ran a T3T04E to 430whp on his integra, that t3 would be an upgrade from a t25 and they can push near 250

Post by **romerider153** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:04 pm

i made 377whp 356torque on a sr with a gt30 which surprise surprise is a t3 frame so yea your stupid

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:56 pm

Skilz10179 wrote:
300whp isn't going to happen with any T3 compressor, at least not without pushing it beyond its limits with a really agressive tune (race gas).

I've seen T3 "Super 60's" with a .82 turbine housing pump out around 270whp but thats pushing it. Its hard to know exactly which compressor wheel you have without measuring the inducer and exducer but it looks like a 50 trim. A 50 trim T3 with a .48 a/r turbine housing is good for about 200whp but thats it. It could build lots of low end power but it will run out of breath long before redline.

Are you serious?!?! Quit spamming this thread with garbage. Here is a dude that hit 284WHP (mustang dyno) at 11PSI. Did I mention it was a T2 flange?!?

Get out if you're gonna post stuff like that.

Post by **Skilz10179** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:42 am

ashibah83 wrote:
are you on crack???

i know of WAY too many people pushing good numbers with t3 frames, a good friend of mine ran a T3T04E to 430whp on his integra, that t3 would be an upgrade from a t25 and they can push near 250

romerider153 wrote:i made 377whp 356torque on a sr with a gt30 which surprise surprise is a t3 frame so yea your stupid

AZ89two4Tsx wrote:
Are you serious?!?! Quit spamming this thread with garbage. Here is a dude that hit 284WHP (mustang dyno) at 11PSI. Did I mention it was a T2 flange?!?

Get out if you're gonna post stuff like that.

I am sorry but you guys don't know what you are talking about.

A T3/TO4E and a GT30R do not use a T3 compressor, welcome to turbo basics...

A T3/TO4E and a GT30R are both what is called a T3/T4 hybrid which means they use a T3 turbine (hot side) and a T4 compressor (cold side).

T3/T4 turbos use the smaller T3 turbine to promote faster spool and the larger T4 compressor to flow enough air to make bigger power.

To make 300whp on a pump gas tune you need a compressor that can flow 35-37 lbs per minute in your desired boost pressure ballpark. To give you a simple visual here are two compressor maps, a 60 trim T3 vs a 60 trim T4. The difference is obvious....

And just for the hell of it here is a GT30R map (also a T4 compressor).

Again, sorry for the confusion, i thought everyone knew this stuff...

Post by **Kalypso** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:24 am

^ bless this man

ok here's how you can figure out the amount of power you'll make.

you'll need a compressor map for your turbo to do this. use this doc http://www.rs-enthalpy.com/tun...h.xls to calculate lbs/min - airflow for your motor... sr20's flow up 55lbs/min at the red line 7500rpm... important depending on the type of build your doing and where you want to have your power.

this can then translate to the pressure ratio ( psi / atmostpheric pressure ) your getting through the rpm band. which is basically psi once you do the algebra backwards.

psi then translates to horse power / torque roughly..

thats the basic.

- you'll need a manifold- dump pipe- stainless steel lines, - exhaust manifold gasket,- studs / bolts,- turbo gasket,

- Tune

- Injectors

but to tell you the truth bro.... this turbo is underpowered you could sell it and get a holset.. then do twice as much for the same price.

lastly dont buy a turbo and ask about its potential afterwards

Post by **Logan76** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:47 am

^ the two guys above me are the only sensible post's in this thread. I think you can make more then 200whp out of that thing, just because you can do 200hp out of a T25 on an SR, But if your looking for big power that is for sure the wrong turbo for you, do more research on HY35's with the 9cm housing, or a Td06 20g with a T3/t4 flange (proabably have to get a Greddy or Forced performance turbo) They both are really good turbos and will have good response and make nice numbers on your SR.
Modified by Logan76 at 7:15 PM 3/22/2009

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:30 am

<--- FAIL

I fail. It was late. Disregard my crap lol.

Post by **Kalypso** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:11 pm

If you become an expert and do some real research... you mind find a compressor housing and wheel from a t4 or other turbo that you can swap unto yours

keep in mind that turbo can be rebuilt and modified if you have the right parts and get it balanced when your done...

take it to a local shop... if they can swap the cold side for something bigger... and do it for under 200 bucks you have a mean 400+ hp turbo... for 450$

with a little lag of course... but your turbine side is petite anyway so it should spool quickly

Post by **Atown 240** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:09 am

I'm selling a t3 flanged rb25 turbo. It's a t28 and i think stock wastgate boost is 10psi.

I believe the turbo is capable up to 14psi.$250 shipped and it's urs

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:36 am

Kalypso123 wrote:If you become an expert and do some real research... you mind find a compressor housing and wheel from a t4 or other turbo that you can swap unto yours

keep in mind that turbo can be rebuilt and modified if you have the right parts and get it balanced when your done...

take it to a local shop... if they can swap the cold side for something bigger... and do it for under 200 bucks you have a mean 400+ hp turbo... for 450$

with a little lag of course... but your turbine side is petite anyway so it should spool quickly

Thats what my friend was telling me to do my power goal is about 350 hp.

Post by **Logan76** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:12 am

He needs more than a T4 compressor wheel, anyways he would want a T3 wheel just a larger one. You would want the T4 hotside, hence the T3/T4 turbo's that most of us guys use. The hotside isnt able to be swapped because it is friction welded to the shaft. Your honest best bet would be to find another turbo.

Post by **S13-Chuki** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:00 am

ya i think in gonna sell it and try to get a t28.

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